Effecting Change at NZF

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Jeff V: on the point you make about capitalising on the 2010 team profile. "Come train with EPL stars Ryan Nelsen and Winston Reid. Kids love that shit and parents by extension, get into it as well". I rember when I was at primary school in 1982 and Wynton Rufer came to our school and did exactly that. I was a football fan anyway but certainly helped ensure I continued to love football.

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And there we go.

I think in this country, ABs are profiled cause they are here 100% of the time so essentially, NZRU don't need to profile their brand because Sky do that for them 11 months of the year on the numerous rugby (and replays of rugby, college rugby, womens rugby, 7s) channels .

 

Granted I said above, 'lets getting in Winston and Ryan etc etc' and while that is very much easier said than done because they do not live here, you need to do something to generate profile. In their offseason, what does it cost to get them home for 3 weeks to help create that profile over school holidays time. We need to be better and smarter at it than others because we don't get TV profile.

Grumpy old bastard alert

Jerzy Merino
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I know Ivan Vicilich does the Auckland school promo stuff, and this sure helps Central attract the young kids into their youth teams.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

terminator_x
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The NZRFU also employs the All Blacks directly so is able to control everything they do, including image rights etc.

Of course, the NZRFU also has a budget of over $100m, compared to NZF's $10m.


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Exactly but the point remains, NZF could do better at profiling the AWs...

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after the current press release I'm surprised the NZF can get to work without the help of a seeing eye dog.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Fucking all the clusters.

E + R + O

Lonegunmen
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And I though the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse was bad enough but no the NZF try their best to out do it. Eg: Herbert staying, now going, now staying, now going.

172 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games Attendee   

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http://content.radionetwork.co.nz/weekondemand/radiosport/71315.mp3

Gareth Morgan's interview with Tony Veitch where he offers NZF $5m as long as the government matches it with $10m and the current Board goes.

Everybody should listen to this.

Typical Gareth really, there's as much in there that I think is genius as there is that I think wtf? Even if he's barmy he knows how to get a debate started.


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terminator_x wrote:

http://content.radionetwork.co.nz/weekondemand/radiosport/71315.mp3

Gareth Morgan's interview with Tony Veitch where he offers NZF $5m as long as the government matches it with $10m and the current Board goes.

Everybody should listen to this.

Typical Gareth really, there's as much in there that I think is genius as there is that I think wtf? Even if he's barmy he knows how to get a debate started.


Yada yada yada. GM is very smart at jumping on a bandwagon and talking generalist populist rubbish without actually committing to anything specific or worthwhile. It's very easy to say I'll give you $5m if the gummit does more - he knows full well they won't so he can spout on as much as he likes. And in a few months he can say, "well I tried but nobody listened. now about those cats...."

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terminator_x wrote:

http://content.radionetwork.co.nz/weekondemand/radiosport/71315.mp3

Gareth Morgan's interview with Tony Veitch where he offers NZF $5m as long as the government matches it with $10m and the current Board goes.

Everybody should listen to this.

Typical Gareth really, there's as much in there that I think is genius as there is that I think wtf? Even if he's barmy he knows how to get a debate started.


I'm surprised there hasn't been more comment on this interview. As well as Gareth trying to provoke further public debate (the need for which is undoubted; as has been mentioned plenty of times on these forums); I sense a frustration against the 'close the wagons' mentality and modus operandi of NZF; which is evident almost wherever you look in the game. It's only natural to expect some amount of tension between our only professional club and the national body, but GM is seeking greater collaboration from a football development viewpoint.

His advocacy for a cohesive national approach to elite football development through the youth ages (13-19) is surely legitimate. The fact he thinks Ernie is the man to oversee it is merely his opinion - after recently interviewing who knows how many people for the top professional football job in the land.

Also, he mentioned a number of times Welnix was half way through a 5 year project and that he would be reviewing his investment in the next 2 years. Alarm bells anyone? or merely bluffing?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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Global Game wrote:
terminator_x wrote:

http://content.radionetwork.co.nz/weekondemand/radiosport/71315.mp3

Gareth Morgan's interview with Tony Veitch where he offers NZF $5m as long as the government matches it with $10m and the current Board goes.

Everybody should listen to this.

Typical Gareth really, there's as much in there that I think is genius as there is that I think wtf? Even if he's barmy he knows how to get a debate started.


I'm surprised there hasn't been more comment on this interview. As well as Gareth trying to provoke further public debate (the need for which is undoubted; as has been mentioned plenty of times on these forums); I sense a frustration against the 'close the wagons' mentality and modus operandi of NZF; which is evident almost wherever you look in the game. It's only natural to expect some amount of tension between our only professional club and the national body, but GM is seeking greater collaboration from a football development viewpoint.

His advocacy for a cohesive national approach to elite football development through the youth ages (13-19) is surely legitimate. The fact he thinks Ernie is the man to oversee it is merely his opinion - after recently interviewing who knows how many people for the top professional football job in the land.

Also, he mentioned a number of times Welnix was half way through a 5 year project and that he would be reviewing his investment in the next 2 years. Alarm bells anyone? or merely bluffing?

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Gareth makes some very legitimate points here and he has every right to state his opinion( he spends loads of his own money on youth football development). Pisses me off when people jump on the anti Gareth bandwagon.....sure he has a scattergun approach to his opinions but he often hits the nail on the head. NZF is a basket case in much of what it does, the WC campaign being a prime example. I think we need more people standing up like him and Hay and keep the pressure up on NZF to change....other wise we will be in exactly the same position as we are now in 4 years time. 

As for Gareths statement about Welnix's 5 year agenda....that was stated right from the start. For all those Gareth haters whats your plan for the Nix if /when Welnix decide that have had enough of the bullshit in NZF and pull their money?. Tall poppy syndrome here....me thinks! Keep slagging off the clubs owners and see where that gets us.
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Just for the record. I'm NOT anti-GM. Infact I'm very pro-GM.

As for Gazza:

1) Agree re cats and N Korea

2) Disagree re his healthy food ideology

3) Found his blog rant on NZFootball rather odius. Haven't much inclination to listen to him (maybe if someone I respect like FUBLU or Comical Ali asks me).

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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I wonder if there is anyone in NZF with enough knowledge of FIFA statutes and disciplinary code and how to use them to take advantage of the mistakes made by others

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Gareth's blog on the subject...

http://garethsworld.com/blog/uncategorized/morgan-offer-revamp-new-zealand-football/

Doesn't contain any more detail than the radio interview, and really just raises more questions than answers.

Hopefully Gareth can elaborate on his plan as things unfold over the next few weeks.


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Jeff Vader
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I wonder if there is anyone in NZF with enough knowledge of FIFA statutes and disciplinary code and how to use them to take advantage of the mistakes made by others

still going on about that?

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De J on Radio Sport...he'd have been a reasonably competant middle manager , all blame deflected , all sweetness and light promised for the future.... funniest bit was a coin flip between  Veitch desperately lapdogging  , " sorry to give u such a hard time Fred " and then the first call up , who had to be a NZF employee or De J relative ....hilarious !

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Jeff Vader wrote:
go cas route wrote:

I wonder if there is anyone in NZF with enough knowledge of FIFA statutes and disciplinary code and how to use them to take advantage of the mistakes made by others

still going on about that?

Remember Andrew Durante affair? How afraid were NZF to be victims of a complaint in November play-off? Even to the point to make Solomon Islands do the work for them.
Zambia did it last year sucessfully last year agains Sudan, Tunisia did it against Cape Verde and even trying to repeat the trick against Cameroon . Syria were thrown out of WC qualifiers in 2011 for the same reason. At least 6 teams in CAF were caught in fault, with a forfeit as a punisment. 
The only way to make everyone follow the rules is that the authority is compeled to enforce them, specially when there are federations that try to get unfair advantege by breaking them.
Maybe someone care, as I do about this.

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terminator_x wrote:

Gareth's blog on the subject...

http://garethsworld.com/blog/uncategorized/morgan-offer-revamp-new-zealand-football/

Doesn't contain any more detail than the radio interview, and really just raises more questions than answers.

Hopefully Gareth can elaborate on his plan as things unfold over the next few weeks.


Looks like he's calmed down from his ragey, red mist babbling after Azteca.

Now that he is expressing a coherent vision for the future it will be helpful to know which aspects he thinks aren't being addressed by NZ Football or the footballing community.  Refresh my mind - how long has Whole of Football been going now (and this must surely be a ten year plus time frame to bear fruit)?
 

"Phoenix till they lose"

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