Effecting Change at NZF

james dean
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Does anyone know the process for the appointment of board members and the Chairman?  Employees obviously have a contract with expectations etc but what about those responsible for governance and running the game?  Can they be voted out by the members of the incorporated society?  Because some pressure really should begin to be brought to bear on them


Posting an article from Simon Plumb that starts to make the case for removal of some of those involved.  Personally, I'd start with Van Hattum and I'd look to start involving more ex-players from the 90s and 2000s onwards.  NZF is a cozy club based around the '82 team and that needs to change


http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9248788/Money-makes-the-ball-go-round-for-NZ-Football


Some more on Van Hattum from Simon Plumb


http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/8887938/NZFs-CEO-turnover-puts-spotlight-on-chairman

Edited by james dean October 07, 2013 22:23

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Jeff Vader
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You looking at having a crack by proxy JD?


Both very good articles from Simon Plumb. I had not read them before.

Grumpy old bastard alert

james dean
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No - I'm far from the right person for the job!  But I think NZF needs a broom through it, and a lot more accountability.  Even simple things like publishing proper accounts and explaining how public money is being spent

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Feverish
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Ha


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Feverish
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Crap copy fail. Was laughing at the first article talking about Fred's appointment 

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james dean
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Crap copy fail. Was laughing at the first article talking about Fred's appointment 


It's pretty damning stuff.

Are the federation heads in charge of appointing board members?

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No lie. Last two times I've seen Van Hattum I've been with my dad and his partner and Frank tried to pick up my old man's partner both times.
Two season's ago in Dunedin in the Octagon after the Nix match and in Christchurch after All Whites game earlier this year I think it was. The man has no shame.

reg22
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james dean wrote:

No - I'm far from the right person for the job! 



i beg to differ
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I disagree with your suggestion that what we need is ex All Whites.


I'm not sure what governance expertise Declan Edge and Noel Barclay would bring to the table...

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

reg22
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that made me chuckle

i actually think it's important to have a mix and to make sure you don't over-corporatise things

i'm not convinced that new zealand's standard governance structures work well for business and public sector, let alone sports organisations.  i've seen enough to make me very cynical.

i'd be interested to know what the other structural options are at board/senior management level

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"New Zealand Football is governed by a seven-member board of directors, with extra members co-opted when specific skill sets are needed. Three members are elected from “the game”; nominated and elected by New Zealand Football’s seven member federations at the sport’s annual congress.

The other four members are selected by an independent three-member board appointments panel chaired by the President of New Zealand Football (currently Nicholas Davidson QC), and featuring a representative from SPARC and a third member chosen by NZF’s member federations. NZF board members serve terms of four years. The chair of the commitee of federation chairs is also co-opted to the NZF board.

The current board (as at May, 2013) of New Zealand Football is: Frank van Hattum (Chairman), Bill Moran (Deputy Chairman), Mark Aspden, Paul Cochrane, Martin Fenwick, Paula Kearns, Dougal McGowan, Shelley McMeeken (co-opted) and Mike Anderson (co-opted)".

http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/index.php?id=39


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I'm not sure who the three current elected members are but Frank van Hattum is definitely one of them. He was elected for a four year term in May 2011 (so not up for re-election until May 2015).


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that made me chuckle

i actually think it's important to have a mix and to make sure you don't over-corporatise things

i'm not convinced that new zealand's standard governance structures work well for business and public sector, let alone sports organisations.  i've seen enough to make me very cynical.

i'd be interested to know what the other structural options are at board/senior management level



nice use of understatement.

I seem to remember wailing and gnashing of teeth over the post '82 manangement disaster and how post 2010 it would never happen again.

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

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The seven Federations elect the three NZF Board members so it's also relevant to know who is on your local Federation board. These are the people you can most directly influence to get your Federation to vote for a certain candidate or not. Of course, it also helps if there are candidates nominated who are worth voting for.

The elected members of your Federation Board are the ones particularly worth targeting because the clubs within the Federation elect them.

So as a club member you vote for people to be on your club committee. Those people then vote three out of seven people onto your local Federation Board (the other four are appointed). The Federations then vote three out of seven people onto the NZF Board (the other four being appointed).

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For those of us in Wellington the current Capital Football Board is:

Chairman Chris Canton

Deputy Chairman  Phil Barry      

Dave Trueman                                  

David Taylor                                  

Guy Smith                                  

Helen Mallon                                  

Jess Fraser                                  

Paul Houliston                                  

Steve Stevens

Again, I'm not sure who the elected members are or what clubs they are affiliated with.

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-4205-0-0-0&sID=233951

Edited by terminator_x October 08, 2013 17:45

foal30
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Steve Stevens

always woondered what happened to him after Rebel Yell

E's Flat Ah's Flat Too

Feverish
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terminator_x wrote:

For those of us in Wellington the current Capital Football Board is:

Chairman Chris Canton

Deputy Chairman  Phil Barry      

Dave Trueman                                  

David Taylor                                  

Guy Smith                                  

Helen Mallon                                  

Jess Fraser                                  

Paul Houliston                                  

Steve Stevens

Again, I'm not sure who the elected members are or what clubs they are affiliated with.

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-4205-0-0-0&sID=233951

Erase at least Smith and Stevens from that list.
Oh and I giggled that you said you vote for your club committee

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Feverish wrote:
terminator_x wrote:

For those of us in Wellington the current Capital Football Board is:

Chairman Chris Canton

Deputy Chairman  Phil Barry      

Dave Trueman                                  

David Taylor                                  

Guy Smith                                  

Helen Mallon                                  

Jess Fraser                                  

Paul Houliston                                  

Steve Stevens

Again, I'm not sure who the elected members are or what clubs they are affiliated with.

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-4205-0-0-0&sID=233951

Erase at least Smith and Stevens from that list.

Oh and I giggled that you said you vote for your club committee



is smith no longer on board?
terminator_x
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Feverish wrote:
terminator_x wrote:

For those of us in Wellington the current Capital Football Board is:

Chairman Chris Canton

Deputy Chairman  Phil Barry      

Dave Trueman                                  

David Taylor                                  

Guy Smith                                  

Helen Mallon                                  

Jess Fraser                                  

Paul Houliston                                  

Steve Stevens

Again, I'm not sure who the elected members are or what clubs they are affiliated with.

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-4205-0-0-0&sID=233951

Erase at least Smith and Stevens from that list.

Oh and I giggled that you said you vote for your club committee


Yeah OK, it should say "you avoid your club's AGM like the plague so you don't find yourself on the committee".


So who's actually on the CF Board then?


Both the NZF and CF websites should also tell you which members are elected and which are appointed and from when to when.


Edited by terminator_x October 08, 2013 20:05

Blew.2
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terminator_x wrote:
Feverish wrote:
terminator_x wrote:

For those of us in Wellington the current Capital Football Board is:

Chairman Chris Canton

Deputy Chairman  Phil Barry      

Dave Trueman                                  

David Taylor                                  

Guy Smith                                  

Helen Mallon                                  

Jess Fraser                                  

Paul Houliston                                  

Steve Stevens

Again, I'm not sure who the elected members are or what clubs they are affiliated with.

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-4205-0-0-0&sID=233951

Erase at least Smith and Stevens from that list.

Oh and I giggled that you said you vote for your club committee


Yeah OK, it should say "you avoid your club's AGM like the plague so you don't find yourself on the committee".


So who's actually on the CF Board then?


Both the NZF and CF websites should also tell you which members are elected and which are appointed and from when to when.


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