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Rossi is an excellent A League defender and is single-handedly responsible for us not conceding a truckload of goals down the left when Parkhouse has been out of position, and is constantly in the right place at the right time. In games he's played this season we average 1.38 goals conceded, in games he's missed that shoots up to 4.

His positioning and reading of the game is top class and IMO he'd walk into any A League side. But that should be expected for a guy who is still in his 20s and was good enough to be a starting CB in Serie A.

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bennie99 wrote:

Fenix wrote:

IronNix fan wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

If Ridenton was properly fit - Watson was going to be dropped to the bench, Roly pushing forward alongside Kosta and Ridenton in behind into Roly's place. 

Imagine how many we would have scored if Watson wasn't on there ruining chances all night.

Absolute rubbish. What game were you at? See earlier comment about Watson/Mat Simon. Watson did a good job last night.

Simon can head the ball, Watson can't. From what I can see Watson traps it further than many can kick it, and doesn't have the finesse to do much but fire the ball into the player in front of him. Don't like to be too harsh, but I'm less than impressed.

The simon comparison is pretty insulting to simon IMO. He scored a truck load of goals for the Mariners back in the day. Yes he's a cod and not the most technically gifted footballer, but he's well above Watson.

On the imports, yes you don't need all 4 to start, but you need probably one of them to be your star player that does a consistently great job for you. Nix have only had that with Burns since Paul If left, though you could argue that Rossi has done his job well this season.


Why does an import need to be a star? (and Burns wasn't an import)

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Rossi is an excellent A League defender and is single-handedly responsible for us not conceding a truckload of goals down the left when Parkhouse has been out of position, and is constantly in the right place at the right time. In games he's played this season we average 1.67 goals conceded, in games he's missed that shoots up to 4.

His positioning and reading of the game is top class and IMO he'd walk into any A League side. But that should be expected for a guy who is still in his 20s and was good enough to be a starting CB in Serie A.

That is an amazing stat

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james dean wrote:

Rossi is an excellent A League defender and is single-handedly responsible for us not conceding a truckload of goals down the left when Parkhouse has been out of position, and is constantly in the right place at the right time. In games he's played this season we average 1.67 goals conceded, in games he's missed that shoots up to 4.

His positioning and reading of the game is top class and IMO he'd walk into any A League side. But that should be expected for a guy who is still in his 20s and was good enough to be a starting CB in Serie A.

That is an amazing stat

And it's actually better - I did it wrong. The real stat for when he plays is 1.38 (29 goals in 21 games vs 12 in 3)
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I have him missing 4 games. Round 4, 17, 19, 22. Totalling 14 goals

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2ndBest wrote:

I have him missing 4 games. Round 4, 17, 19, 22. Totalling 14 goals

According to Transfermarkt he played in round 17. Could be wrong though
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Ugh, maths. So, the Nix page says 20 games so I'll take that and say he missed r17. Then that's 14 goals in 4 games he hasn't played, at 3.5 per game, and 27 goals in 20 he has played at 1.35. if he did play r17 then that's 12 in 3, or 4 per game, and 29 in 21 where did play so 1.38 per game. How can they both go down? Shouldn't one figure go up and the other down?

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Rossi is one of the best players we've had at the club, but as a CB he doesn't get the rave reviews of an Ifill or Burns. Everything he does oozes class and he's done a lot of covering up for how bad Durante has been this season, and Parkhouse when he's been in the backline.

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Ugh, maths. So, the Nix page says 20 games so I'll take that and say he missed r17. Then that's 14 goals in 4 games he hasn't played, at 3.5 per game, and 27 goals in 20 he has played at 1.35. if he did play r17 then that's 12 in 3, or 4 per game, and 29 in 21 where did play so 1.38 per game. How can they both go down? Shouldn't one figure go up and the other down?

It's because in the round in question we conceded 2 goals, more than the average than the other games he played, and less than the average than when he didn't. Like when New Zealanders move to Australia and raise the IQ of both countries (Muldoon)

See Will Rogers phenomenon

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LiamJ wrote:

Ugh, maths. So, the Nix page says 20 games so I'll take that and say he missed r17. Then that's 14 goals in 4 games he hasn't played, at 3.5 per game, and 27 goals in 20 he has played at 1.35. if he did play r17 then that's 12 in 3, or 4 per game, and 29 in 21 where did play so 1.38 per game. How can they both go down? Shouldn't one figure go up and the other down?

It's because in the round in question we conceded 2 goals, more than the average than the other games he played, and less than the average than when he didn't. Like when New Zealanders move to Australia and raise the IQ of both countries (Muldoon)

See Will Rogers phenomenon

Thanks :)

That's obvious when you think about it. I blame being at work for brain failure.

Anyhow: Rossi = good

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Related to this, the Tratt, Dura, Rossi, Doyle combination has let in 9 goals in 8 games (played every team except City). All other games it's 32 goals in 16 games. 

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That's my favourite back four... although I am happy to start looking beyond Durante (who I think has been better this year than last year)

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It's funny, I thought Rossi was injured more than that. Maybe it's just those horendous games where we ship a ton of goals stick in my mind more.

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bennie99 wrote:

Fenix wrote:

IronNix fan wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

If Ridenton was properly fit - Watson was going to be dropped to the bench, Roly pushing forward alongside Kosta and Ridenton in behind into Roly's place. 

Imagine how many we would have scored if Watson wasn't on there ruining chances all night.

Absolute rubbish. What game were you at? See earlier comment about Watson/Mat Simon. Watson did a good job last night.

Simon can head the ball, Watson can't. From what I can see Watson traps it further than many can kick it, and doesn't have the finesse to do much but fire the ball into the player in front of him. Don't like to be too harsh, but I'm less than impressed.

The simon comparison is pretty insulting to simon IMO. He scored a truck load of goals for the Mariners back in the day. Yes he's a cod and not the most technically gifted footballer, but he's well above Watson.

I've got 5 goals in 1310 minutes for Watson, which if you divide by 90 is around 15 full games. Considering both him and the team have had a lean spell recently that's not bad. 

While Simon was prolific, he was also in a team that was competing for the top 3 spots, so he was getting fairly handy service and the defence was being distracted by the players around him. 

I don't see why Watson couldn't develop to be as handy as Simon. He's in a bit of a dip, but still contributing handily. I wouldn't want to lose him from the 'Nix, unless he got a better contract overseas. 

http://www.ultimatealeague.com/player_detail.php?p...    Matt Simon

http://www.ultimatealeague.com/player_detail.php?p...    Hamish Watson

Think he's contributed more than either Powell or Appiah did. Definitely more than Brownlie, Chen, George or Toto. I'd say more than Coveny or Kwasnik. Even though I loved Smeltz and Horse as an attack.

That leaves D-Mac 14(7) and Greenacre 84(19) as targets for his level of contribution to the club. I think he could definitely aim towards that level. He's been a good club man and squad player in this stint. 

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4 of those were against CCM and the Jets.

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james dean wrote:

Rossi is an excellent A League defender and is single-handedly responsible for us not conceding a truckload of goals down the left when Parkhouse has been out of position, and is constantly in the right place at the right time. In games he's played this season we average 1.67 goals conceded, in games he's missed that shoots up to 4.

His positioning and reading of the game is top class and IMO he'd walk into any A League side. But that should be expected for a guy who is still in his 20s and was good enough to be a starting CB in Serie A.

That is an amazing stat

And it's actually better - I did it wrong. The real stat for when he plays is 1.38 (29 goals in 21 games vs 12 in 3)

That is a great analysis, and I stand corrected. Thanks CT for digging it up.

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2ndBest wrote:

4 of those were against CCM and the Jets.

Does that mean they don't count?

Has anyone in our team been scoring bucket loads against anyone else in the last year? 

Krishna has 11, Finkler has 5, as does Kosta and no one else has more than 2 for the season. 

With 3 of Finkler's and 2 of Kosta's coming in the last 3 games this really means NO ONE aside from Krishna has been scoring many goals against the top of the table.

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martinb wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

4 of those were against CCM and the Jets.

Does that mean they don't count?

Has anyone in our team been scoring bucket loads against anyone else in the last year? 

Krishna has 11, Finkler has 5, as does Kosta and no one else has more than 2 for the season. 

With 3 of Finkler's and 2 of Kosta's coming in the last 3 games this really means NO ONE aside from Krishna has been scoring many goals against the top of the table.

did you see some of his woeful attempts at "shots" against the Jets? He's trying to shoot straight through two players marking him, outside the box. The lowest of low percentage options.
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patrick478 wrote:

martinb wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

4 of those were against CCM and the Jets.

Does that mean they don't count?

Has anyone in our team been scoring bucket loads against anyone else in the last year? 

Krishna has 11, Finkler has 5, as does Kosta and no one else has more than 2 for the season. 

With 3 of Finkler's and 2 of Kosta's coming in the last 3 games this really means NO ONE aside from Krishna has been scoring many goals against the top of the table.

did you see some of his woeful attempts at "shots" against the Jets? He's trying to shoot straight through two players marking him, outside the box. The lowest of low percentage options.

Roly did that in the end...huge deflection for his goal from outside the box. Mikey did that against Fiji, as did Lewis.

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Has been some woeful shooting from a number of players this season but seems it counts more for Watson to have been doing it than others.Like some people with A Rod it seems Watson has his haters as well and doubt it would matter much if he did things better he still wouldnt be rated.

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whatever is rubbing the wrong way ;nervous or attitude , they dont gel well, 

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