R24 vs Newcastle | Sun 26th March | 7:00pm | RoF

LG
Legend
5.7K
·
23K
·
almost 17 years

Watson did his job - distract and annoy the defence and drag them all over the place.

First Team Squad
1.2K
·
1.6K
·
over 14 years

Lonegunmen wrote:

Watson did his job - distract and annoy the defence and drag them all over the place.

He also got the 'assist' for the OG.

Trialist
18
·
110
·
over 7 years

djtim3000 wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Watson did his job - distract and annoy the defence and drag them all over the place.

He also got the 'assist' for the OG.

he looked like he couldnt spare the energy to chase a cross, he took shots on from outside the box that were 25/75% against scoring. the rest of his game was good enough against the jets but what about against victory etc. i like the lad but from the bench
RR
·
Bossi Insider
9.8K
·
34K
·
almost 16 years

token wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Watson did his job - distract and annoy the defence and drag them all over the place.

He also got the 'assist' for the OG.

he looked like he couldnt spare the energy to chase a cross, he took shots on from outside the box that were 25/75% against scoring. the rest of his game was good enough against the jets but what about against victory etc. i like the lad but from the bench

Not sure about where you sit but one of the major cries from around me in Aisle 26 is for our forwards to actually take the shot on goal, rather than try to beat 3 men & get a tap in. I agree Watson's decision making isn't the best & there were better options occasionally but I'm not gonna criticise a striker for taking a shot on goal.
Starting XI
700
·
3.5K
·
almost 15 years

Oceanic6 wrote:

For my birthday present today, I'd like 1 x Wellington Phoenix win and 1 x Team Wellington win.  Not much to ask for is it?? 

I should have added a lotto win!  

I was over the moon, what a fantastic afternoon/evening with two of my favourite sports teams.  Thanks to both for making my day that much more enjoyable.

Marquee
4K
·
5.5K
·
almost 12 years

I don't want to see Jack Henry Sinclair make his debut... the moment he does any thoughts of a US scholarship are gone.

He will end up playing in the SSP like  (memory black) the quick young team wellington striker who played a handful of games.

If he plays, its because we see him as a genuine player going forward.

Starting XI
1.7K
·
3K
·
over 16 years

IronNix fan wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

If Ridenton was properly fit - Watson was going to be dropped to the bench, Roly pushing forward alongside Kosta and Ridenton in behind into Roly's place. 

Imagine how many we would have scored if Watson wasn't on there ruining chances all night.

Absolute rubbish. What game were you at? See earlier comment about Watson/Mat Simon. Watson did a good job last night.

Simon can head the ball, Watson can't. From what I can see Watson traps it further than many can kick it, and doesn't have the finesse to do much but fire the ball into the player in front of him. Don't like to be too harsh, but I'm less than impressed.
Trialist
18
·
110
·
over 7 years

RR wrote:

token wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Watson did his job - distract and annoy the defence and drag them all over the place.

He also got the 'assist' for the OG.

he looked like he couldnt spare the energy to chase a cross, he took shots on from outside the box that were 25/75% against scoring. the rest of his game was good enough against the jets but what about against victory etc. i like the lad but from the bench

Not sure about where you sit but one of the major cries from around me in Aisle 26 is for our forwards to actually take the shot on goal, rather than try to beat 3 men & get a tap in. I agree Watson's decision making isn't the best & there were better options occasionally but I'm not gonna criticise a striker for taking a shot on goal.

he would of taken them anyway if you were yelling shirt, shirt, they should have made the most of him earlier on in his tenure ,he seems vacant
Marquee
2.1K
·
8.2K
·
about 17 years

djtim3000 wrote:

martinb wrote:

Let's be honest: with a team featuring Kosta, Finkler, Roly and Rossi this result was what we would have assumed would happen if we'd thought about it pre-season.

It's only after the very average season we have had that we would think that those players might have trouble blowing away the Jets.

Add Roy and WeeMac into the mix. Smeltz later on in the season. The team is stacked, it is hard to understand how the season ended up so average we were worried about being beaten by the Jets. You can argue the squad makeup isn't the best, but the quality individuals, the depth like the Nix have never had before. A-Rod has had a break-out season (with general consensus going from waste of import to sign him up), and Lia has been pretty damn solid. They even found a RB in Tratt. How did things end up so bad?

Because our midfield wilts at the first sign of pressure.  Rodriguez and Lia get pulled apart by any decent movement.  Last night they played with their head up because there was no pressure on them at all, the Jest sat back and let them play.  I still don't get the praise for Rodriguez, he has no passing range and has gone completely missing time and time again against the big teams

Marquee
2.1K
·
8.2K
·
about 17 years

RR wrote:

token wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Watson did his job - distract and annoy the defence and drag them all over the place.

He also got the 'assist' for the OG.

he looked like he couldnt spare the energy to chase a cross, he took shots on from outside the box that were 25/75% against scoring. the rest of his game was good enough against the jets but what about against victory etc. i like the lad but from the bench

Not sure about where you sit but one of the major cries from around me in Aisle 26 is for our forwards to actually take the shot on goal, rather than try to beat 3 men & get a tap in. I agree Watson's decision making isn't the best & there were better options occasionally but I'm not gonna criticise a striker for taking a shot on goal.

Reality is though those shots from 25+ are going to go in maybe once a season, it's a low percentage option.  Plus he didn't actually manage to get a shot away; they were all blocked weren't they?  I thought he was pretty poor, he's better off doing the simple things really well than trying to score worldies

RR
·
Bossi Insider
9.8K
·
34K
·
almost 16 years

MetalLegNZ wrote:

I don't want to see Jack Henry Sinclair make his debut... the moment he does any thoughts of a US scholarship are gone.

He will end up playing in the SSP like  (memory black) the quick young team wellington striker who played a handful of games.

If he plays, its because we see him as a genuine player going forward.

Joel Stevens? He did well when given chances, he just came thru a bit too early for the WeeNix. Horrible luck on the timing for him..

Seeing JHS on the bench makes me feel old, his dad was my Economics teacher in Palmy. If he wanted to go the US College route, he probably would have left when Joe Bell did earlier this season? But without knowing the kid personally, I can't say for sure.

First Team Squad
1.2K
·
1.6K
·
over 14 years
First Team Squad
1.2K
·
1.6K
·
over 14 years

james dean wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

martinb wrote:

Let's be honest: with a team featuring Kosta, Finkler, Roly and Rossi this result was what we would have assumed would happen if we'd thought about it pre-season.

It's only after the very average season we have had that we would think that those players might have trouble blowing away the Jets.

Add Roy and WeeMac into the mix. Smeltz later on in the season. The team is stacked, it is hard to understand how the season ended up so average we were worried about being beaten by the Jets. You can argue the squad makeup isn't the best, but the quality individuals, the depth like the Nix have never had before. A-Rod has had a break-out season (with general consensus going from waste of import to sign him up), and Lia has been pretty damn solid. They even found a RB in Tratt. How did things end up so bad?

Because our midfield wilts at the first sign of pressure.  Rodriguez and Lia get pulled apart by any decent movement.  Last night they played with their head up because there was no pressure on them at all, the Jest sat back and let them play.  I still don't get the praise for Rodriguez, he has no passing range and has gone completely missing time and time again against the big teams

I'll agree that the combination of Lia and A-rod lacks mobility. Disagree on A-Rod goes missing - go re-read some game reports against the big teams we lost to, many mention A-rod being one of our best despite the result. Try watching him play (without blinkers on) he's not fast but the amount of last ditch tackles he makes is impressive, he'll also always be available to recieve a pass, and once he passes he moves into space to receive again immediately (something that NZ raised midfields struggle with, pass and move). Passing range is debateable, he clearly has a mandate to not pass long, but keep the ball moving through the midfield, and even with the occassional mis-placed pass, has the highest completed passing percentage in the team and the highest completed passing percentage in the league while in the opposition half.

First Team Squad
1.2K
·
1.6K
·
over 14 years

james dean wrote:

RR wrote:

token wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Watson did his job - distract and annoy the defence and drag them all over the place.

He also got the 'assist' for the OG.

he looked like he couldnt spare the energy to chase a cross, he took shots on from outside the box that were 25/75% against scoring. the rest of his game was good enough against the jets but what about against victory etc. i like the lad but from the bench

Not sure about where you sit but one of the major cries from around me in Aisle 26 is for our forwards to actually take the shot on goal, rather than try to beat 3 men & get a tap in. I agree Watson's decision making isn't the best & there were better options occasionally but I'm not gonna criticise a striker for taking a shot on goal.

Reality is though those shots from 25+ are going to go in maybe once a season, it's a low percentage option.  Plus he didn't actually manage to get a shot away; they were all blocked weren't they?  I thought he was pretty poor, he's better off doing the simple things really well than trying to score worldies

What, like bring the ball down and holding it up for other attackers? Or turning defenders inside out while running at the byline as other attackers were getting in position? Or when crossing, going low and hard across the face of goal? I get you're hard to please, and to be fair I'd replace him with Roy any day - but give the guy some credit, he was poor in a 5 - 0 win? jeez.

Marquee
2.1K
·
8.2K
·
about 17 years

djtim3000 wrote:

james dean wrote:

RR wrote:

token wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Watson did his job - distract and annoy the defence and drag them all over the place.

He also got the 'assist' for the OG.

he looked like he couldnt spare the energy to chase a cross, he took shots on from outside the box that were 25/75% against scoring. the rest of his game was good enough against the jets but what about against victory etc. i like the lad but from the bench

Not sure about where you sit but one of the major cries from around me in Aisle 26 is for our forwards to actually take the shot on goal, rather than try to beat 3 men & get a tap in. I agree Watson's decision making isn't the best & there were better options occasionally but I'm not gonna criticise a striker for taking a shot on goal.

Reality is though those shots from 25+ are going to go in maybe once a season, it's a low percentage option.  Plus he didn't actually manage to get a shot away; they were all blocked weren't they?  I thought he was pretty poor, he's better off doing the simple things really well than trying to score worldies

What, like bring the ball down and holding it up for other attackers? Or turning defenders inside out while running at the byline as other attackers were getting in position? Or when crossing, going low and hard across the face of goal? I get you're hard to please, and to be fair I'd replace him with Roy any day - but give the guy some credit, he was poor in a 5 - 0 win? jeez.

I didn't say he was poor.  I thought he was limited but did ok.  I was specifically responding to the point that "it's good to see a striker taking a shot".  My point is those were pretty poor options, he should just be recycling the ball and just playing the percentages

First Team Squad
1.2K
·
1.6K
·
over 14 years

james dean wrote:

I thought he was pretty poor

james dean wrote:

I didn't say he was poor. I thought he was limited but did ok. I was specifically responding to the point that "it's good to see a striker taking a shot". My point is those were pretty poor options, he should just be recycling the ball and just playing the percentages

Channelling some Trump there?

For what its worth I do agree that his decision making could use some work. The same could be said for Chris Wood when he was 23.

Marquee
2.1K
·
8.2K
·
about 17 years

djtim3000 wrote:

james dean wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

martinb wrote:

Let's be honest: with a team featuring Kosta, Finkler, Roly and Rossi this result was what we would have assumed would happen if we'd thought about it pre-season.

It's only after the very average season we have had that we would think that those players might have trouble blowing away the Jets.

Add Roy and WeeMac into the mix. Smeltz later on in the season. The team is stacked, it is hard to understand how the season ended up so average we were worried about being beaten by the Jets. You can argue the squad makeup isn't the best, but the quality individuals, the depth like the Nix have never had before. A-Rod has had a break-out season (with general consensus going from waste of import to sign him up), and Lia has been pretty damn solid. They even found a RB in Tratt. How did things end up so bad?

Because our midfield wilts at the first sign of pressure.  Rodriguez and Lia get pulled apart by any decent movement.  Last night they played with their head up because there was no pressure on them at all, the Jest sat back and let them play.  I still don't get the praise for Rodriguez, he has no passing range and has gone completely missing time and time again against the big teams

I'll agree that the combination of Lia and A-rod lacks mobility. Disagree on A-Rod goes missing - go re-read some game reports against the big teams we lost to, many mention A-rod being one of our best despite the result. Try watching him play (without blinkers on) he's not fast but the amount of last ditch tackles he makes is impressive, he'll also always be available to recieve a pass, and once he passes he moves into space to receive again immediately (something that NZ raised midfields struggle with, pass and move). Passing range is debateable, he clearly has a mandate to not pass long, but keep the ball moving through the midfield, and even with the occassional mis-placed pass, has the highest completed passing percentage in the team and the highest completed passing percentage in the league while in the opposition half.

I just don't think Rodriguez affects games anywhere near enough.  He is a very tidy short passer but that's just not enough - he doesn't shoot, pass long, run with the ball, create chances or assists.  Our results with him in the team ahve generally been poor for 2 seasons.  Even yesterday the standout ball from midfield was Lia to Kosta for the first goal.  Rodriguez just doesn't make passes like that.  We need to try something else

End of the day if A-Rod is such a good player why haven't we done better with him in the team?  And if he's great and I just can't see it then who is the problem?

Marquee
2.1K
·
8.2K
·
about 17 years

djtim3000 wrote:

james dean wrote:

I thought he was pretty poor

james dean wrote:

I didn't say he was poor. I thought he was limited but did ok. I was specifically responding to the point that "it's good to see a striker taking a shot". My point is those were pretty poor options, he should just be recycling the ball and just playing the percentages

Channelling some Trump there?

For what its worth I do agree that his decision making could use some work. The same could be said for Chris Wood when he was 23.

Ok let me rephrase - he was ok.

Chris Wood was playing in the CHampionship when he was 23 so I suspect his decision making was at a slightly different level

One in a million
4.2K
·
9.5K
·
about 17 years

Great to see Dylan Fox, Roly and Kosta all in the A League team of the week.

Legend
7.3K
·
15K
·
over 16 years

Watson worked hard in the game. Think recently he has been trying to over hit shots and not making as good opportunities- he's frequently getting shots blocked. 

On the other hand shooting from there means the defence won't sit off you and maybe will free up some space for others. 

I didn't think he was minging, but it wasn't his best game. On the other hand, seems we all love Roly and his shot went in off a deflection, and wasn't blocked. If Watson had had some similar luck, he'd be getting all the plaudits for a goal and a great ball across goal for the OG.

Marquee
3.7K
·
5.8K
·
about 17 years

Watching the replay and shark some of you are a bit harsh on Watson he has done some good things so far and its from some of his work that our 2nd goal came.Yep he may not be a Roy or Smeltz but i dont think he is as bad as some of you go on about. As good as Smeltz has been for us remind me how many he has managed to score since being back.

 Like others i hope some of these guys are given a chance in our remaining games and i hope like hell some of you dont turn on them if things dont go well given that what they have coming up is likely to be sharkloads better than the Jets.

Marquee
5.3K
·
9.5K
·
over 12 years

james dean wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

james dean wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

martinb wrote:

Let's be honest: with a team featuring Kosta, Finkler, Roly and Rossi this result was what we would have assumed would happen if we'd thought about it pre-season.

It's only after the very average season we have had that we would think that those players might have trouble blowing away the Jets.

Add Roy and WeeMac into the mix. Smeltz later on in the season. The team is stacked, it is hard to understand how the season ended up so average we were worried about being beaten by the Jets. You can argue the squad makeup isn't the best, but the quality individuals, the depth like the Nix have never had before. A-Rod has had a break-out season (with general consensus going from waste of import to sign him up), and Lia has been pretty damn solid. They even found a RB in Tratt. How did things end up so bad?

Because our midfield wilts at the first sign of pressure.  Rodriguez and Lia get pulled apart by any decent movement.  Last night they played with their head up because there was no pressure on them at all, the Jest sat back and let them play.  I still don't get the praise for Rodriguez, he has no passing range and has gone completely missing time and time again against the big teams

I'll agree that the combination of Lia and A-rod lacks mobility. Disagree on A-Rod goes missing - go re-read some game reports against the big teams we lost to, many mention A-rod being one of our best despite the result. Try watching him play (without blinkers on) he's not fast but the amount of last ditch tackles he makes is impressive, he'll also always be available to recieve a pass, and once he passes he moves into space to receive again immediately (something that NZ raised midfields struggle with, pass and move). Passing range is debateable, he clearly has a mandate to not pass long, but keep the ball moving through the midfield, and even with the occassional mis-placed pass, has the highest completed passing percentage in the team and the highest completed passing percentage in the league while in the opposition half.

I just don't think Rodriguez affects games anywhere near enough.  He is a very tidy short passer but that's just not enough - he doesn't shoot, pass long, run with the ball, create chances or assists.  Our results with him in the team ahve generally been poor for 2 seasons.  Even yesterday the standout ball from midfield was Lia to Kosta for the first goal.  Rodriguez just doesn't make passes like that.  We need to try something else

End of the day if A-Rod is such a good player why haven't we done better with him in the team?  And if he's great and I just can't see it then who is the problem?

I'm not going to get into another argument with you about whether A-Rod is good or not but why single him out for our poor results over the last couple of seasons? I personally think that the problem with our midfield against better sides is structural. We lack proper wingers (Kosta aside) and our more attacking mids (Roly and Finkler particularly, not WeeMac so much) like to dwell on the ball and aren't especially mobile. So we struggle to move the ball quick enough or make sharp enough runs to break down well-organised defenses. Our FBs don't get a lot of help on defense because there's no winger to drop back. Our AMs don't track back fast enough (if Roly loses the ball he generally takes a 30 second breather to either complain to the ref or ham it up on the ground) so essentially Lia and A-Rod get isolated in the middle of the pitch, either overrun by the opposition mids or dragged wide and out of position to help our FBs. Once again it's symptomatic of our unbalanced squad.
One in a million
4.2K
·
9.5K
·
about 17 years

I liked this part of the game plan against Newcastle. Win the ball, feed it to Roly. Roly don't dwell on it, pass and move.

Marquee
4K
·
5.5K
·
almost 12 years

Here's a question... who has been our biggest disappointment this season?

For me its Kosta - despite some improved performances of late, he has generally taken poor options and shown a heavy touch. Closely followed by Finkler.

A - Rod is well done the pecking order in this list, behind Smeltz (only 2 goals from open play), Lia, Roly, and Durante.

Starting XI
1.7K
·
3K
·
over 16 years

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Here's a question... who has been our biggest disappointment this season?

For me its Kosta - despite some improved performances of late, he has generally taken poor options and shown a heavy touch. Closely followed by Finkler.

A - Rod is well done the pecking order in this list, behind Smeltz (only 2 goals from open play), Lia, Roly, and Durante.

in defence of smelt, he can't score if we don't put the ball within 6 metres of him. I think he would have enjoyed our more positive approach against Newcastle. We don't put the defence under pressure anywhere near enough, and when you do, things happen, such as the own goal. You don't get own goals by rolling the ball across your own back four.
Marquee
4.4K
·
6.8K
·
over 13 years

In contrast I found TV3 report disappointing. It was stuck at the end of the long bulletin, just before netball which came dead last. No interviews, rushed through the goals footage and said "... but their season is over anyway". Pathetic.

Marquee
2.1K
·
8.2K
·
about 17 years

james dean wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

james dean wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

martinb wrote:

Let's be honest: with a team featuring Kosta, Finkler, Roly and Rossi this result was what we would have assumed would happen if we'd thought about it pre-season.

It's only after the very average season we have had that we would think that those players might have trouble blowing away the Jets.

Add Roy and WeeMac into the mix. Smeltz later on in the season. The team is stacked, it is hard to understand how the season ended up so average we were worried about being beaten by the Jets. You can argue the squad makeup isn't the best, but the quality individuals, the depth like the Nix have never had before. A-Rod has had a break-out season (with general consensus going from waste of import to sign him up), and Lia has been pretty damn solid. They even found a RB in Tratt. How did things end up so bad?

Because our midfield wilts at the first sign of pressure.  Rodriguez and Lia get pulled apart by any decent movement.  Last night they played with their head up because there was no pressure on them at all, the Jest sat back and let them play.  I still don't get the praise for Rodriguez, he has no passing range and has gone completely missing time and time again against the big teams

I'll agree that the combination of Lia and A-rod lacks mobility. Disagree on A-Rod goes missing - go re-read some game reports against the big teams we lost to, many mention A-rod being one of our best despite the result. Try watching him play (without blinkers on) he's not fast but the amount of last ditch tackles he makes is impressive, he'll also always be available to recieve a pass, and once he passes he moves into space to receive again immediately (something that NZ raised midfields struggle with, pass and move). Passing range is debateable, he clearly has a mandate to not pass long, but keep the ball moving through the midfield, and even with the occassional mis-placed pass, has the highest completed passing percentage in the team and the highest completed passing percentage in the league while in the opposition half.

I just don't think Rodriguez affects games anywhere near enough.  He is a very tidy short passer but that's just not enough - he doesn't shoot, pass long, run with the ball, create chances or assists.  Our results with him in the team ahve generally been poor for 2 seasons.  Even yesterday the standout ball from midfield was Lia to Kosta for the first goal.  Rodriguez just doesn't make passes like that.  We need to try something else

End of the day if A-Rod is such a good player why haven't we done better with him in the team?  And if he's great and I just can't see it then who is the problem?

I'm not going to get into another argument with you about whether A-Rod is good or not but why single him out for our poor results over the last couple of seasons? I personally think that the problem with our midfield against better sides is structural. We lack proper wingers (Kosta aside) and our more attacking mids (Roly and Finkler particularly, not WeeMac so much) like to dwell on the ball and aren't especially mobile. So we struggle to move the ball quick enough or make sharp enough runs to break down well-organised defenses. Our FBs don't get a lot of help on defense because there's no winger to drop back. Our AMs don't track back fast enough (if Roly loses the ball he generally takes a 30 second breather to either complain to the ref or ham it up on the ground) so essentially Lia and A-Rod get isolated in the middle of the pitch, either overrun by the opposition mids or dragged wide and out of position to help our FBs. Once again it's symptomatic of our unbalanced squad.

End of the day we need to change our midfield structure and personnel.

Marquee
2.1K
·
8.2K
·
about 17 years

Mainland FC wrote:

In contrast I found TV3 report disappointing. It was stuck at the end of the long bulletin, just before netball which came dead last. No interviews, rushed through the goals footage and said "... but their season is over anyway". Pathetic.

It is really

Marquee
2.1K
·
8.2K
·
about 17 years

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Here's a question... who has been our biggest disappointment this season?

For me its Kosta - despite some improved performances of late, he has generally taken poor options and shown a heavy touch. Closely followed by Finkler.

A - Rod is well done the pecking order in this list, behind Smeltz (only 2 goals from open play), Lia, Roly, and Durante.

Definitely Finkler for me.  I don't think he has improved our play overall and his set pieces have been pretty hit and miss.  Smeltz is 35!  And still think that's harsh on Kosta, he's looked a lot better recently after a slow start.  McGlinchey has had a really disappointing season although mostly injury related

Trialist
18
·
110
·
over 7 years

i would love to see the game start without krishna or at least start him on the bench, just carry on the passing when attacking the box. finklers mind wasnt on footy but family, now thats rosey hes relaxed. someone commented fox didnt play well against victory, i think moss makes him nervous....imo

WeeNix
340
·
550
·
over 11 years

Would love to see Italiano stay between the sticks for the last few games. Id like to see how his organisation of the back four differs from shouty Moss.

valeo
·
Legend
4.6K
·
18K
·
about 17 years

token wrote:

i would love to see the game start without krishna or at least start him on the bench, just carry on the passing when attacking the box. finklers mind wasnt on footy but family, now thats rosey hes relaxed. someone commented fox didnt play well against victory, i think moss makes him nervous....imo

'Moss makes him nervous'. That is ridiculous. He is a professional footballer.

Trialist
18
·
110
·
over 7 years

valeo wrote:

token wrote:

i would love to see the game start without krishna or at least start him on the bench, just carry on the passing when attacking the box. finklers mind wasnt on footy but family, now thats rosey hes relaxed. someone commented fox didnt play well against victory, i think moss makes him nervous....imo

'Moss makes him nervous'. That is ridiculous. He is a professional footballer.

ive seem moss giving the evil eye to fox and lowry at least they get a pat on the back from dura, nervous maybe i meant naucious..and who said pros dont get nervous?.....

Starting XI
2.6K
·
2.4K
·
over 8 years

token wrote:

valeo wrote:

token wrote:

i would love to see the game start without krishna or at least start him on the bench, just carry on the passing when attacking the box. finklers mind wasnt on footy but family, now thats rosey hes relaxed. someone commented fox didnt play well against victory, i think moss makes him nervous....imo

'Moss makes him nervous'. That is ridiculous. He is a professional footballer.

ive seem moss giving the evil eye to fox and lowry at least they get a pat on the back from dura, nervous maybe i meant naucious..and who said pros dont get nervous?.....

If it affects them to that extent then they aren't good enough to be pros. Have to be strong mentally as well as good at football.

One in a million
4.2K
·
9.5K
·
about 17 years

Foxy seemed to cope perfectly well with Vinnie giving him the eye after Fox nearly flattened him on Saturday

Life and death
2.4K
·
5.5K
·
about 17 years

Nelfoos wrote:

token wrote:

valeo wrote:

token wrote:

i would love to see the game start without krishna or at least start him on the bench, just carry on the passing when attacking the box. finklers mind wasnt on footy but family, now thats rosey hes relaxed. someone commented fox didnt play well against victory, i think moss makes him nervous....imo

'Moss makes him nervous'. That is ridiculous. He is a professional footballer.

ive seem moss giving the evil eye to fox and lowry at least they get a pat on the back from dura, nervous maybe i meant naucious..and who said pros dont get nervous?.....

If it affects them to that extent then they aren't good enough to be pros. Have to be strong mentally as well as good at football.

Ideally yes, but in reality - not the case. In pro sport you have all types. The old adage of 'the top 2 inches' applies but only the really best have the whole package. I'd expect players at this level to have mental flaws otherwise they'd be playing at a higher level consistently. Look at the likes of Sapong, Ritgiers etc who had obvious skill but not the mental side of the game to stay compeing successfully at the level they came from.
Marquee
7.2K
·
9.4K
·
over 13 years

Neither of those two could compete at our level either.

Legend
7.3K
·
15K
·
over 16 years

MetalLegNZ wrote:

Here's a question... who has been our biggest disappointment this season?

For me its Kosta - despite some improved performances of late, he has generally taken poor options and shown a heavy touch. Closely followed by Finkler.

A - Rod is well done the pecking order in this list, behind Smeltz (only 2 goals from open play), Lia, Roly, and Durante.

 

For me without a doubt Roly has been the most disappointing, followed by Finkler. I don't think Kosta has been, overall as bad as has been portrayed, and with the numbers of talent we have shouldn't be expected to carry the attack alone.

WeeNix
200
·
670
·
over 16 years

Fenix wrote:

IronNix fan wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

If Ridenton was properly fit - Watson was going to be dropped to the bench, Roly pushing forward alongside Kosta and Ridenton in behind into Roly's place. 

Imagine how many we would have scored if Watson wasn't on there ruining chances all night.

Absolute rubbish. What game were you at? See earlier comment about Watson/Mat Simon. Watson did a good job last night.

Simon can head the ball, Watson can't. From what I can see Watson traps it further than many can kick it, and doesn't have the finesse to do much but fire the ball into the player in front of him. Don't like to be too harsh, but I'm less than impressed.

The simon comparison is pretty insulting to simon IMO. He scored a truck load of goals for the Mariners back in the day. Yes he's a cod and not the most technically gifted footballer, but he's well above Watson.

On the imports, yes you don't need all 4 to start, but you need probably one of them to be your star player that does a consistently great job for you. Nix have only had that with Burns since Paul If left, though you could argue that Rossi has done his job well this season.

Marquee
4.4K
·
6.8K
·
over 13 years

bennie99 wrote:

Fenix wrote:

IronNix fan wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

If Ridenton was properly fit - Watson was going to be dropped to the bench, Roly pushing forward alongside Kosta and Ridenton in behind into Roly's place. 

Imagine how many we would have scored if Watson wasn't on there ruining chances all night.

Absolute rubbish. What game were you at? See earlier comment about Watson/Mat Simon. Watson did a good job last night.

Simon can head the ball, Watson can't. From what I can see Watson traps it further than many can kick it, and doesn't have the finesse to do much but fire the ball into the player in front of him. Don't like to be too harsh, but I'm less than impressed.

The simon comparison is pretty insulting to simon IMO. He scored a truck load of goals for the Mariners back in the day. Yes he's a cod and not the most technically gifted footballer, but he's well above Watson.

On the imports, yes you don't need all 4 to start, but you need probably one of them to be your star player that does a consistently great job for you. Nix have only had that with Burns since Paul If left, though you could argue that Rossi has done his job well this season.

I think these are fair comments. I am not a fan of Simon but agree that he is a better performer than Watson now. But what was he like at Watson's age?

While not an outstanding player even at A-League level, Rossi is a decent CB and if he keeps his cool better than what I've seen, he will be a long term asset (assuming he even wants to stay on).

You’ll need an account to join the conversation!

Sign in Sign up