The WaiBOP United Thread
Thought he was a very good coach of HBHS and of Waikato last year. Well done to him for getting the job again!
Are you sure....watched HBHS recently along with Ngarauwhia in the winter league and if this is what Dave produces here after 3 years work imagine how much damage he will do if he stays longer.....what happened at Hawkes Bay they prefer Matt Chandler go figure who bad that makes Dave.......
What does that mean?
HBHS have had there best results ever under Edmonson - 2nd at Nationals last year!
Ngaruawahia have a very young side, think most of the side are still school kids actually and they are the only serious contenders to 3 Kings in the Northern 1st Division and from what I have seen, they play the best football of pretty much any side I have seen this year and that includes the sides Ive seen play Wanderers and Melville in the Premier League.
Edmonson has produced a very young, skillful and slick passing side who I for one hope get promoted to the Premier League.
I also understand he coaches Claudelands Rovers in the Womens' Premier League and they also have a very young side and have also had their best ever results under him, finishing 3rd behind Lyn Avon and 3 Kings last season and being in the National Cup 1/4 finals this weekend.
By the stats he appears very successful so why does he get bagged all the time??
HBHS have had there best results ever under Edmonson - 2nd at Nationals last year!
Ngaruawahia have a very young side, think most of the side are still school kids actually and they are the only serious contenders to 3 Kings in the Northern 1st Division and from what I have seen, they play the best football of pretty much any side I have seen this year and that includes the sides Ive seen play Wanderers and Melville in the Premier League.
Edmonson has produced a very young, skillful and slick passing side who I for one hope get promoted to the Premier League.
I also understand he coaches Claudelands Rovers in the Womens' Premier League and they also have a very young side and have also had their best ever results under him, finishing 3rd behind Lyn Avon and 3 Kings last season and being in the National Cup 1/4 finals this weekend.
By the stats he appears very successful so why does he get bagged all the time??
Mr Waikato....HBHS last week did not even make the final of Super 8 recently played in Hamilton. The boys that did well for HBHS where already at the school way before Dave arrived and would have done well with or without him.
The players that Dave would have any influence over are the ones at the school now and they are no better if not worse than prevoius years surely with Dave being at the school now for 3 years they would be getting better???????
In relation to saying that Ngarauwhia play a slick passing game are you sure.....from what I,ve seen Melville would sort out Ngarawhaia. And again the players at Narra who are doing well Barlow Christianson Margetts etc would be doing well with or without Dave again you want to have a look at the players coming through HBHS that have been under Dave for the last 3 years and who he has influnced they are pretty average
Stats lie and are you sure he gets bagged??????
You are bagging him!!
Under Dave a number of those players have progressed considerably! Margetts, Barlow, Carr have all made NZ teams and/or NZFC teams. How can you say they would have done it with or without him? In that case any coach is pointless or useless in your book.
Before Edmoson HBHS did not even qualify for National Secondary school tournament, his first year there 6th, second year 2nd and have I think again qualified this year for top 16?
As for the players at Ngarawahia, Margetts and Christianson were seen as reserve players at Wanderers last season but under Edmonson they have flourished into very good players!
As for super8 tournament i think they finished 3rd, only losing to Tauranga in the semi. They did actually beat Palmerston North, the eventual winners so not that bad?? How can he be held responsible for what players come through, is he not the 1st team coach? Or does he coach the junior teams as well?
Under Dave a number of those players have progressed considerably! Margetts, Barlow, Carr have all made NZ teams and/or NZFC teams. How can you say they would have done it with or without him? In that case any coach is pointless or useless in your book.
Before Edmoson HBHS did not even qualify for National Secondary school tournament, his first year there 6th, second year 2nd and have I think again qualified this year for top 16?
As for the players at Ngarawahia, Margetts and Christianson were seen as reserve players at Wanderers last season but under Edmonson they have flourished into very good players!
As for super8 tournament i think they finished 3rd, only losing to Tauranga in the semi. They did actually beat Palmerston North, the eventual winners so not that bad?? How can he be held responsible for what players come through, is he not the 1st team coach? Or does he coach the junior teams as well?
Are you Edmonson in disguise...
Are you Edmonson in disguise...
Quality, But he has done wonders for Waikato even though he may have had some decent players there, he did well to scratch through and nearly make the playoffs after they had been getting bagged having an Amatuer outfit which probably made them play harder, but after last seasons efforts why not get another crack?I agree lets give him another go because no other worthwhile coach (not even Fallon) worth their salt would really want to work for a club like Waikato that started at the Waikato Stadium with high expectations around it being the way forward with eventually it being based around Waikato players as seen as real stepping stone to an amautuer club run and promoting amautuers players played at Narra......way to go.....in relation to play offs beside Waitakere and Auckland the other 6 clubs are strapping after the 2 other places to make up the semi-final.
Oh by the way anybody wonder why Dave has so many teams? Surely they are all worthwhile jobs that should require full-time attention????
He also coaches Claudelands Rovers women's team, doesn't he?
Are you Edmonson in disguise...
Quality, But he has done wonders for Waikato even though he may have had some decent players there, he did well to scratch through and nearly make the playoffs after they had been getting bagged having an Amatuer outfit which probably made them play harder, but after last seasons efforts why not get another crack?Yeah it's always people who have never coached that throw up the old "well you had good player anyway" line. Bad coaches can still drive good players to lose.
Good to see Waikato having faith in someone who did the job for them in tough times.
Oh by the way anybody wonder why Dave has so many teams? Surely they are all worthwhile jobs that should require full-time attention????
I'm speculating wildly that he needs to do that much work to make a living.
'Spose he has to do something to pay for all the jaunts to the UK for his UEFA Licence course!
What about if i have 3-4 teams one of them will do well???
Hello there. I think Dave has done a fine job with Waikato FC and definitely deserves to continue. I found the Paul Parker interlude bizarre, almost Walter Mitty stuff.
I do worry that Dave is pulled in far too many directions, but the immediate parties seem happy, and the province has been far better for his overall presence.
I would just correct mr waikato's statement about National premier schoolboy tournament though.
After a long absence HBHS returned to the top 10 nationally under Paul Nixon in 2000, then improved to 5th or 6th the following year. Under successor Brian Lloyd they managed third and fourth, then tailed off a little, from memory, under Lloyd's replacement -- the Coerver chap from te Kauwhata -- but were still a reasonable force. (And back in the 70s HBHS were a real NZ powerhouse -- the national tournament didn't start till 1978)
But back to Edmondson. He is well organised, seems to run a good session,is passionate, proactive and has the ability to affect the performance of players.
I think Dave showed tremendous character to come back and get stuck in after his horror fall from grace a few seasons ago, and deserves respect for that alone.
On the debit side, he perhaps doesn't have quite the man-management finesse of, say, Steve Williams, who coached at national league level 96-98, but that may come with more experience. Overall it is disappointing to hear a few people bad-mouth dave. It is not something i understand.
i must say that Waikato do need to get cracking on securing players for the summer. It is not my place to announce player intentions here, but i have been made aware of some Melville lads who have already made plans to play elsewhere, and others who are in discussions.
I haven't seen Narra play this season, but they are usually pretty competitive, though my own club prejudices have me thinking Melville's forward line would give them a good spanking.
I think he's obviously a good coach. Just needs to cheer up a bit!
What about if i have 3-4 teams one of them will do well???
If you were playing in your own four a side tournament maybe!
Ngaruawahia have a very young side, think most of the side are still school kids actually and they are the only serious contenders to 3 Kings in the Northern 1st Division
There are no contenders serious or otherwise, yet are one of the three clubs that managed to draw with them
'Spose he has to do something to pay for all the jaunts to the UK for his UEFA Licence course!
Why bag the guy for trying to improve himself. Hopefully his players also benefit from what hes learned.
I would just correct mr waikato's statement about National premier schoolboy tournament though.
After a long absence HBHS returned to the top 10 nationally under Paul Nixon in 2000, then improved to 5th or 6th the following year. Under successor Brian Lloyd they managed third and fourth, then tailed off a little, from memory, under Lloyd's replacement -- the Coerver chap from te Kauwhata -- but were still a reasonable force. (And back in the 70s HBHS were a real NZ powerhouse -- the national tournament didn't start till 1978)
Sorry my mistake, I wrote that badly... I meant the team the season before Edmonson took over did not qualify for Nationals, we did not make top 16 and had to go to the 2nd tier tournament in the Sth Island. Many of those players then under Mr Ed qualified for top 16 and actually finished 6th the following year..
2nd last year under Edmonson IS STILL the best result at Nationals by HBHS and apparently any Waikato team?
I'm just curious FUTBOL but how many teams do you coach and at what level??
'Spose he has to do something to pay for all the jaunts to the UK for his UEFA Licence course!
Why bag the guy for trying to improve himself. Hopefully his players also benefit from what hes learned.
Touchy, aren't we! Actually, I wasn't bagging him. I fully applaud the efforts he's gone to. My comment was based on the fact that I know he has to travel to the UK fairly often to do the course, which must cost him a fortune
Lighten up. 
Jag2009-07-24 10:09:58
I'm just curious FUTBOL but how many teams do you coach and at what level??
Indeed
So an update especially for FUTBOL - Edmondson's teams seemed to have performed well this weekend.......Boys High started with a 5-2 win, followed by a crucial 2-1 win by Ngaruawahia and the weekend ended a short while ago with a 10 nil cup quarter final win for his Claudelands ladies team.......... Must be awful coaching 3 teams at different levels and winning all 3......he must be so disappointed.
Is it only me, but did Dave Edmondson just stole this Auckland Team coaches thread?
Nice move Waikato, already a good indication that the Auckland teams are under threat . . . .
Nice move Waikato, already a good indication that the Auckland teams are under threat . . . .
That maybe the case for the this weekend but again may i say that HBHS 1st 11 are getting worse not better under Dave surely after him being at the school for 3 years the players coming through that he has had the opportunity to influence should be getting better....trust me this ain't the case.
I have also witnessed first hand the quality of the northern league 1st Division when Narra played Tauranga City and what a shambles and good team of golden oldies would have been better.
Cannot comment though on the Womens team as have yet to see them play.
And this is a forum where most of us use bogus names if i tell you who i have coached and played for then all the fun would be losted.
This type of site allows people like you guys the opportunity to talk to people like myself where i normally wouldn't bother......keep it real.
By the way am one of the few people to witness the deterioation of the game here in NZ at all levels and have the oponion that NZ Football have no idea what to do???
By the way am one of the few people to witness the deterioation of the game here in NZ at all levels and have the oponion that NZ Football have no idea what to do???
If you are one of the few people what have the rest of us been witnessing??????
If your going to keep doubting him? Why don't you coach Waikato?
Another terrible weekend for Mr Edmondson I see......2 nil win for his Boys High team yesterday morning, a 7-1 win for his Ngaruawahia team in Auckland in the afternoon and last I heard his Claudeland's ladies team were 12 (yes twelve) 2 up this afternoon......another disappointment for him, how will he cope......... what you think Futbol????
Hardly matters now daves off to coach U17 ferns
Hope they give the job to Paul Marshal
This from the Melville United Forum...
Waikato FC Media - Edmondson Leaves Waikato FC
The official word on Dave Edmondson's departure from Waikato FC from the WFC Media Release and NZF Media Release earlier today...
DAVE EDMONDSON LEAVES WAIKATO FC FOR INTERNATIONAL APPOINTMENT
MONDAY 3rd AUGUST 2009
Waikato FC has released Dave Edmondson from his NZFC commitment so he may take up a full-time role with New Zealand Football.
Edmondson has been offered and accepted the vacant position of New Zealand U-17 Women�s national team Head Coach and would be required to start as soon as possible.
�Waikato FC set out from the beginning to win the NZFC and to be a club with a reputation for development,� said Chairman Charlie Panakera.
Media & Communications: Gordon Glen Watson 021-066-0738
Development Manager: James Raffan 027-600-7090
For more please click below
http://www.waikatofc.co.nz/
Edmondson and Readings appointed to Ferns roles
August 3, 2009
AUCKLAND � A promotion from within, and a switch from the New Zealand Football Championship are the notable features of the respective appointments of Tony Readings and Dave Edmondson to head coach roles of the Junior (U-20) and Young (U-17) Football Ferns.
Readings takes the U-20s head coaching reins after a three year apprenticeship as John Herdman�s assistant coach and technical analyst for both the U-20 and senior women�s sides.
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/plugins/newsfeed.cgi?rm=content&plugin_data_id=28355
Media & Communications Manager: Jamie Scott 09 414 0184
Waikato FC Media - Edmondson Leaves Waikato FC
The official word on Dave Edmondson's departure from Waikato FC from the WFC Media Release and NZF Media Release earlier today...
DAVE EDMONDSON LEAVES WAIKATO FC FOR INTERNATIONAL APPOINTMENT
MONDAY 3rd AUGUST 2009
Waikato FC has released Dave Edmondson from his NZFC commitment so he may take up a full-time role with New Zealand Football.
Edmondson has been offered and accepted the vacant position of New Zealand U-17 Women�s national team Head Coach and would be required to start as soon as possible.
�Waikato FC set out from the beginning to win the NZFC and to be a club with a reputation for development,� said Chairman Charlie Panakera.
Media & Communications: Gordon Glen Watson 021-066-0738
Development Manager: James Raffan 027-600-7090
For more please click below
http://www.waikatofc.co.nz/
Edmondson and Readings appointed to Ferns roles
August 3, 2009
AUCKLAND � A promotion from within, and a switch from the New Zealand Football Championship are the notable features of the respective appointments of Tony Readings and Dave Edmondson to head coach roles of the Junior (U-20) and Young (U-17) Football Ferns.
Readings takes the U-20s head coaching reins after a three year apprenticeship as John Herdman�s assistant coach and technical analyst for both the U-20 and senior women�s sides.
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/plugins/newsfeed.cgi?rm=content&plugin_data_id=28355
Media & Communications Manager: Jamie Scott 09 414 0184
Who will take over?
Hardly matters now daves off to coach U17 ferns
Hope they give the job to Paul Marshal
I reckon Marshall's not a bad shout actually.
Marshall would be totally wrong for waikato! He can,t coach he,s just a loud mouth .Even though he snuck on to the board at Auckland they were reluctant to appoint him full time as the coach.If he ain,t good enough for Auckland he aint good enough for Waikato.
I like Edmondson but I,d have to question selecting to go with the under 17 girls rather than taking a national league mens team!!Unless he,s trying to sneak up the Herdman route???
sloth you,re as clueless as your photo suggests your first name should be grant!!
Bob, it's not my place to tell you who Sloth is, but it ain't Grant....
To add some value to the thread, obviously there has been a lot of discussion on a replacement.
But wasn't there a complication with a requirement for coaches to hold the NZ International team coaching licence?
There had been a suggestion of Melville coach Steve Williams doing the job (did it 96-98) with Wanderers Mark Cossey as his assistant. They are good mates. But Steve said he wasn't interested. (he has a big flash boat up the Waitemata harbour for summers, is fixated with getting things right in his own club, and, dare I say it, the prosepct of being based at Narra, where he has personal history and a former wife, did not appeal).
Declan Edge, who is qualified, and has previous form, told me he was more interested in working with his Melville U17 team, after being sacked from the post a few years back. Declan has been doing some fantastic work at youth level, where he is working on a "10,000 hours" apprenticeship model, working daily with young players.
Waikato has Graham Pearce as asst coach, but Waikato really need somebody based on the ground in the Waikato. I think Pearce was asking Che Bunce if he was that man after the game on Saturday (with Paul Nixon an interested listener). Bunce was Melville assistant coach about eight yeasrs ago, while recovering from a back injury.
But if Waikato were looking for a caretaker, the obvious go-to person is Ray Pooley, who has been popping up in such roles for over 20 years.
Meanwhile my spies tell me emerging young coach Sam Wilkinson, who has been doing a good job with Wanderers U17s, could well be in the Edmondson-HBHS camp assisting at schoolboys national tournament.
I saw this morning that someone had posted on the Melville website questioning the wisdom of Waikato continuing to sign players before they have a coach. Cart before the horse and all that. Interesting point.
Marshall would be totally wrong for waikato! He can,t coach he,s just a loud mouth .Even though he snuck on to the board at Auckland they were reluctant to appoint him full time as the coach.If he ain,t good enough for Auckland he aint good enough for Waikato.
I like Edmondson but I,d have to question selecting to go with the under 17 girls rather than taking a national league mens team!!Unless he,s trying to sneak up the Herdman route???
Fair enough. Not being in Waikato, I wouldn't presume to say what was or wasn't good for them. My comment about Marshall being not a bad shout was more based more on the fact that he seems to have brought a lot of decent players on board who seem to want to play under him at Three Kings, rather than any comment on his coaching abilities, or lack of. Don't know that much about his history.
As for Edmondson, a National team (albeit at women's U17 level) and the international competition, experience and exposure that potentially brings, or Waikato FC in the NZFC. Hmm, I wonder how long he had to think about that decision!
Jag2009-08-04 08:59:53
By the way am one of the few people to witness the deterioation of the game here in NZ at all levels and have the oponion that NZ Football have no idea what to do???
Why... YES , YES , you are....its a novel idea , you must be the only mensa graduate on this entire forum......god spelllings two...
He can probably master the quote tags though Loz.
He can probably master the quote tags though Loz.
mE cann too...tho kapitallls thats diffrent ting...