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el grapadura wrote:
Tegal wrote:

Nobody.  Have a couple of team meetings and decide your tactics there

Just get all the tactics from these forums. 


All they need to do is go out there, pass it around, and have a go. It'll be fine, no need for a coach.


aka the Harry Redknapp method (with the "enjoy yourself" proviso)

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Junior82 wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
Tegal wrote:

Nobody.  Have a couple of team meetings and decide your tactics there

Just get all the tactics from these forums. 


All they need to do is go out there, pass it around, and have a go. It'll be fine, no need for a coach.


aka the Harry Redknapp method (with the "enjoy yourself" proviso)



They aren't going to pay tax now either?
Legend
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No - that is the Rosie Redknapp method.


Woof Woof
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Tegal wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
Tegal wrote:

Nobody.  Have a couple of team meetings and decide your tactics there

Just get all the tactics from these forums. 


All they need to do is go out there, pass it around, and have a go. It'll be fine, no need for a coach.

As Steve Sumner said after we strung 2 passes together (which obviously proved him right) "see, its a simple game"

So maybe you're right, who needs a coach. 


And if I remember correctly, we then coughed it up, got caught on the break, and think either Ivan or Dura pulled out an agricultural challenge to stop a good goal scoring opportunity. Ye gods.
Starting XI
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Herbert less than $100k?  Seriously?

That kind of pay scale may reduce the pool slightly.

Legend
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Tegal wrote:

As Steve Sumner said after we strung 2 passes together (which obviously proved him right) "see, its a simple game"

So maybe you're right, who needs a coach. 


Oi Tegal! Leggy has categorically stated that Sumner knows more about football than any of us on here. So leave it out, yeah?
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Head Sleuth
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Buffon II wrote:
Tegal wrote:

As Steve Sumner said after we strung 2 passes together (which obviously proved him right) "see, its a simple game"

So maybe you're right, who needs a coach. 


Oi Tegal! Leggy has categorically stated that Sumner knows more about football than any of us on here. So leave it out, yeah?

And by extension he was saying that he knows more than all of us. Arrogant much?
Marquee
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NZF could make some cash off a reality show to find the next coach "New Zealand's Next Top Football Coach". Contestants have a number of challenges - playing as NZ on FM14, being interviewed by the media, finding the best outfit to wear on the sidelines etc. Get Colin Mathura-Jeffree to host it: 


NZ on Air would probably part fund it too

Marquee
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Actually, looks like our next coach might well be.... *drumroll* .... Ricki Herbert:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9401554/Defiant-coach-Ricki-Herbert-hits-back-at-critics

Herbert's contract expires at the end of the World Cup cycle, which will be Wednesday in Wellington unless he can engineer one of the greatest miracles in Kiwi sporting history.

Does he want to stay in the job? "Don't know yet," Herbert said. "Is there anybody better?"

.....

Herbert said he would discuss his future with his NZ Football bosses after the Wellington game.

"It's not about me, it's about the future of the game. And if, for whatever reason, there's a decision to stay on and people are comfortable about that, or not, then those decisions will be made. I have no 100 per cent in my mind at the moment.


Phoenix Academy
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Keep Herbert until Russia 2018. Think about this, who thought that Mexico was going to finish 4th in the hex? If Panama defended better against the USA it might be another story, also the OFC SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST ONE SPOT FOR THE WORLD CUP, also we have to remember he has saved the All Whites after the Vanuatu disaster of 2004, and also these are following pros and cons during his time as manager:

Pros
1st ever win over a European side, Georgia in '06 and also Serbia in '10.
1st ever point in the FIFA Confederations Cup, Iraq '09 and 1st ever point in the FIFA World Cup.
1st time the All Whites to qualify for the FIFA World Cup in 28 years.
Most matches managed by an All Whites manager 59-22-14-23, 9 more than John Adshead.

Cons
5-1 Mexico loss and 5-0 losses to Spain and Venezuela.
2-0 loss to New Caledonia which meant no 2013 FIFA Confederations Cup.
Cancelled matches vs. Ukraine '07, Fiji '07, Indonesia '09 and Iraq '09. (Japan '11 don't count)
Key injuries to key players.
The All Whites could of play on the following dates during the Herbert era:

17/08/2005
03/09/2005
07/09/2005
08/10/2005
12/10/2005
12/11/2005
16/11/2005
01/03/2006
16/08/2006
02/09/2006
06/09/2006
07/10/2006
11/10/2006
15/11/2006
02/06/2007
06/06/2007 vs Ukraine (cancelled)
08/09/2007
12/09/2007
13/10/2007 vs Fiji (cancelled)
06/02/2008
26/03/2008
31/05/2008
04/06/2008
20/08/2008
11/10/2008
15/10/2008
11/02/2009
01/04/2009 vs Indonesia (cancelled)
12/08/2009
05/09/2009 vs Iraq (cancelled)
14/10/2009
18/11/2009
11/08/2010
03/09/2010
07/09/2010
17/11/2010
09/02/2011
29/03/2011 vs Japan (cancelled)
10/08/2011
02/09/2011
06/09/2011
07/10/2011
11/10/2011
11/11/2011
15/11/2011
15/08/2012
06/02/2013
04/06/2013
14/08/2013
11/10/2013

That is all I have to say about Ricki.

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We do need to change. I think Ricki has given a lot and been very unfairly criticised at times. But at the same time he is limited. I think he has given all he can and there is a need for fresh ideas, especially to try and instill more confidence in the players when they are on the ball and have others give them better options. I also think NZ would generally be better off with a more pressing defence, that is something we should have the players to do but has never really been implemented under Ricki at all. 

Not completely convinced by Emblem. I would sound out Graham Arnold and see if he was interested, I think he would be a good fit. Otherwise advertise it and see who is interested.

WeeNix
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rjmiller wrote:

We do need to change. I think Ricki has given a lot and been very unfairly criticised at times. But at the same time he is limited. I think he has given all he can and there is a need for fresh ideas, especially to try and instill more confidence in the players when they are on the ball and have others give them better options. I also think NZ would generally be better off with a more pressing defence, that is something we should have the players to do but has never really been implemented under Ricki at all. 

Not completely convinced by Emblem. I would sound out Graham Arnold and see if he was interested, I think he would be a good fit. Otherwise advertise it and see who is interested.

This. Problem is can we really justify paying so much for Graham Arnold? NZF dont have the money and we dont play often enough.
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Actually, looks like our next coach might well be.... *drumroll* .... Ricki Herbert:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9401554/Defiant-coach-Ricki-Herbert-hits-back-at-critics

Herbert's contract expires at the end of the World Cup cycle, which will be Wednesday in Wellington unless he can engineer one of the greatest miracles in Kiwi sporting history.

Does he want to stay in the job? "Don't know yet," Herbert said. "Is there anybody better?"

.....

Herbert said he would discuss his future with his NZ Football bosses after the Wellington game.

"It's not about me, it's about the future of the game. And if, for whatever reason, there's a decision to stay on and people are comfortable about that, or not, then those decisions will be made. I have no 100 per cent in my mind at the moment.



That says it all! How he could possibly think he might stay in the job after his recent decisions just shows what an egotistical man he is.
 
Marquee
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threatD wrote:
rjmiller wrote:

We do need to change. I think Ricki has given a lot and been very unfairly criticised at times. But at the same time he is limited. I think he has given all he can and there is a need for fresh ideas, especially to try and instill more confidence in the players when they are on the ball and have others give them better options. I also think NZ would generally be better off with a more pressing defence, that is something we should have the players to do but has never really been implemented under Ricki at all. 

Not completely convinced by Emblem. I would sound out Graham Arnold and see if he was interested, I think he would be a good fit. Otherwise advertise it and see who is interested.

This. Problem is can we really justify paying so much for Graham Arnold? NZF dont have the money and we dont play often enough.


Can't see Arnold being even remotely interested in coaching the AWs. Besides he's probably now on more money in the J League then we could ever hope to offer him.
Starting XI
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over 16 years

Did you see Ricki saying he instigated the Phoenix?

TV
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Ricki also invented the ipod

Must try harder
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about 17 years

And this here interweb....


First Team Squad
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about 13 years


Ricki went back in time and fathered Lionel Messi

WeeNix
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dunnix wrote:


Ricki went back in time and fathered Lionel Messi

Photoshop. Do it.
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Outpost wrote:
threatD wrote:
rjmiller wrote:

We do need to change. I think Ricki has given a lot and been very unfairly criticised at times. But at the same time he is limited. I think he has given all he can and there is a need for fresh ideas, especially to try and instill more confidence in the players when they are on the ball and have others give them better options. I also think NZ would generally be better off with a more pressing defence, that is something we should have the players to do but has never really been implemented under Ricki at all. 

Not completely convinced by Emblem. I would sound out Graham Arnold and see if he was interested, I think he would be a good fit. Otherwise advertise it and see who is interested.

This. Problem is can we really justify paying so much for Graham Arnold? NZF dont have the money and we dont play often enough.


Can't see Arnold being even remotely interested in coaching the AWs. Besides he's probably now on more money in the J League then we could ever hope to offer him.
Doh. I was unaware he had even left CCM. When did that happen?
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I still can't see why people are seeing Emblem as the man for the job. If theres one thing to come from Herberts era, it's that the new man needs to be someone from the outside who has no allegiances to players. This system hasn't worked so why replace Ricky with his right hand man thinking something will change. Emblem has no proven credentials to say he's fit for the National job (3/4 years as a Player-Manager of Waitakere (amateur) and the NZ Olympic team (1 point, 1 goal)). NZ Football need to stop pinching the pennys and go all out for someone with a reputation.

Marquee
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Lee Germon wrote:

I still can't see why people are seeing Emblem as the man for the job. If theres one thing to come from Herberts era, it's that the new man needs to be someone from the outside who has no allegiances to players. This system hasn't worked so why replace Ricky with his right hand man thinking something will change. Emblem has no proven credentials to say he's fit for the National job (3/4 years as a Player-Manager of Waitakere (amateur) and the NZ Olympic team (1 point, 1 goal)). NZ Football need to stop pinching the pennys and go all out for someone with a reputation.

Why would someone with a reputation want to coach a team that plays about 2 meaningful matches a year?

Cock
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I think its harsh to tar Emblen with Rickis brush. Emblen has a very good track record or developing, promoting and playing youth, something that Ricki is not known for.

Cock
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Having read that article, I have to say I lost a little bit of respect for Ricki.

A good leader knows when its time to get out. He might have stayed 6 months longer at the Phoenix than necessary but he got out when it became apparent it was time to. I think if he cannot see that its time to get out, he is delusional.

 

I have not been one to kick Ricki but he needs a brick bat for that. Granted its media and they can slant it how they like but its not a good look. It just wreaks of absolute god/messiah complex and arrogance.

Phoenix Academy
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Ricki has defended himself in the latest news item from stuff, he ahsnt made up his mind if he wants to stay on

but he will let New Zealand football know.

Trialist
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Jeff Vader wrote:

I think its harsh to tar Emblen with Rickis brush. Emblen has a very good track record or developing, promoting and playing youth, something that Ricki is not known for.

Track record? He's managed Waitak, Western Springs and New Zealand U23 which (forgive me if i'm wrong) means he has to play youth. Emblem is not a step FORWARD, it's either staying the same or a step backwards.

First Team Squad
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about 13 years
threatD wrote:
dunnix wrote:


Ricki went back in time and fathered Lionel Messi

Photoshop. Do it.

Too poor. Would MS Paint be sufficient?

WeeNix
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dunnix wrote:
threatD wrote:
dunnix wrote:


Ricki went back in time and fathered Lionel Messi

Photoshop. Do it.

Too poor. Would MS Paint be sufficient?

It is reflective of Ricky when he gets sacked. I like it.
Marquee
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Jeff Vader wrote:

Having read that article, I have to say I lost a little bit of respect for Ricki.

A good leader knows when its time to get out. He might have stayed 6 months longer at the Phoenix than necessary but he got out when it became apparent it was time to. I think if he cannot see that its time to get out, he is delusional.

 

I have not been one to kick Ricki but he needs a brick bat for that. Granted its media and they can slant it how they like but its not a good look. It just wreaks of absolute god/messiah complex and arrogance.

Isn't he just looking out for Number One? What's he going to do if he quits? Manage Tee Dubs?

Cock
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Lee Germon wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

I think its harsh to tar Emblen with Rickis brush. Emblen has a very good track record or developing, promoting and playing youth, something that Ricki is not known for.

Track record? He's managed Waitak, Western Springs and New Zealand U23 which (forgive me if i'm wrong) means he has to play youth. Emblem is not a step FORWARD, it's either staying the same or a step backwards.

I was just saying its was unfair to put him in the same category as Ricki. He has not had to play youth at Springs or Waitakere as they are club sides and most of our national side are in that 23 age bracket...... (Kosta, Marco, Wood, Reid, Smith, Roux, Tuiloma.... whoops)

 

I never said Emblen was a step forward above either. I would like to see him get the job but it wont happen.

 

You should remove your bias when commenting on others posts.

First Team Squad
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about 13 years

It seems Ricki mated with John Key to spawn Lionel...


Marquee
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I'm going to be really pissed off if NZ Football doesn't try to attract a creative and attack minded coach. We seem to have a bit of a golden generation coming through and it would be a shame to let their talents go to waste.

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about 14 years


can't we get a quality overseas coach

Marquee
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about 17 years
Jeff Vader wrote:


A good leader knows when its time to get out. He might have stayed 6 months longer at the Phoenix than necessary but he got out when it became apparent it was time to. I think if he cannot see that its time to get out, he is delusional.



Don't believe everything you read about his honorable "resignation" either.
He needs some time away from cacoachong to rethink his approach

Appiah without the pace
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chefmivec wrote:


can't we get a quality overseas coach

With what money?

Marquee
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Jerzy Merino wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

Having read that article, I have to say I lost a little bit of respect for Ricki.

A good leader knows when its time to get out. He might have stayed 6 months longer at the Phoenix than necessary but he got out when it became apparent it was time to. I think if he cannot see that its time to get out, he is delusional.

 

I have not been one to kick Ricki but he needs a brick bat for that. Granted its media and they can slant it how they like but its not a good look. It just wreaks of absolute god/messiah complex and arrogance.

Isn't he just looking out for Number One? What's he going to do if he quits? Manage Tee Dubs?

If he'd left after the WC he could have got a well paid job in China or the Middle East at least (in fact I seem to recall rumours of him turning a few such offers down) but his subsequent record has probably scuttled that

 

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2ndBest wrote:
chefmivec wrote:


can't we get a quality overseas coach

With what money?

the millions being made from advertising during the mexico game
Legend
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about 17 years
chefmivec wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
chefmivec wrote:


can't we get a quality overseas coach

With what money?

the millions being made from advertising during the mexico game

Oh ffs.
3rd XI
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Buffon II wrote:
chefmivec wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
chefmivec wrote:


can't we get a quality overseas coach

With what money?

the millions being made from advertising during the mexico game


Oh ffs.

have I missed something here .plz explain other than ffs
Legend
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What millions?


NZF is broke as it is. Any money made from the Mexico tie will certainly not go towards a "quality overseas coach".


Not gonna happen.

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