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Damning NZF Report - The Muir you know

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Let's try and keep chat on it here rather than spread across the other threads.

NZ Football slammed over diversity issues. "There is a perception of a 'boys' club' and a tolerance of inappropriate banter in parts of the organisation". Highlights that there are NO women on the senior leadership team, only 21% of total staff are female.
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Report here:

https://t.co/JkfijYOWGS

Well - the public version.

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https://twitter.com/pineyzb/status/1047296243653734400

Jason Pine‏@pineyzb

Utterly galling that Andy Martin and Andreas Heraf can walk away from NZF with (reportedly) large payouts, given the havoc they have wreaked and the negligence and dreadful behaviour they have displayed, which have now been confirmed by the Muir Report. Appalling.

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Might sadly explain why the AWs have had no games since the frebbie tourney in India, and appear to have no games in the near future.

Cashflow at NZF has taken a hit. Add in the cost of lawyers putting this report together.

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Simpson Grierson would not come cheap. A small law firm charges $400 per hour so I would imagine that Simpson Grierson would charge significantly more. They interviewed approx 80 people so there would be a hefty bill.

Clearly The Board have sat by and done stuff all. How many times did they express  confidence in Martin after cock ups?

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NZF is so, so, so borked it's almost beyond saving. It's a clear case of institutional incompetence and self aggrandisement.

Having said that it has to change, and it can. The waka has to be turned around sharply - sharply enough that a few of those standing up at the front giving orders lose their balance and fall out, so they can be replaced by the right people. I look forward to some positive changes.

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Be interesting to know if they are dipping into the 'International Teams Fund' (ie cash generated by AWs), to pay for everything. 

I imagine that's their main source of cash reserves.

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whatever wrote:

Simpson Grierson would not come cheap. A small law firm charges $400 per hour so I would imagine that Simpson Grierson would charge significantly more. They interviewed approx 80 people so there would be a hefty bill.

Clearly The Board have sat by and done stuff all. How many times did they express  confidence in Martin after cock ups?

It needs to be independent. 

I don't know the business or industries that have the capability to do this work so not sure what the cost should be (could be anything from market research that focuses on issues management to law and consultancy firms)

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Bullion wrote:

whatever wrote:

Simpson Grierson would not come cheap. A small law firm charges $400 per hour so I would imagine that Simpson Grierson would charge significantly more. They interviewed approx 80 people so there would be a hefty bill.

Clearly The Board have sat by and done stuff all. How many times did they express  confidence in Martin after cock ups?

It needs to be independent. 

I don't know the business or industries that have the capability to do this work so not sure what the cost should be (could be anything from market research that focuses on issues management to law and consultancy firms)

Sure it needs to be independant but a large expense which could have been averted if The Board did its job by keeping tabs on Martin and challenging him when he cocked up. Instead they gave him a vote of confidence so he could go his merry way.

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Hard News wrote:

https://twitter.com/pineyzb/status/1047296243653734400

Jason Pine‏@pineyzb

Utterly galling that Andy Martin and Andreas Heraf can walk away from NZF with (reportedly) large payouts, given the havoc they have wreaked and the negligence and dreadful behaviour they have displayed, which have now been confirmed by the Muir Report. Appalling.

couldn't agree more piney
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hard to form a view on what this bullying was given the very vague description of events. The findings should result in change but my voyeuristic nature has not been satisfied

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I have more respect for the women footballers involved than needing to know the details about how Heraf treated them like shark. The above comment smacks of someone who is suspicious that the silly ladies were crying because a man was manly with them and would like to tell women whether they've been "bullied/abused sufficiently" for his standards.

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interesting the report states that it appears grassroots is in great shape (something NZF have latched on to), when they do f all for grassroots

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and is Deryk Shaw made of Teflon?

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dump them all, flush the dunny and move on

Appalling

Auckland will rise once more

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Feverish wrote:

interesting the report states that it appears grassroots is in great shape (something NZF have latched on to), when they do f all for grassroots

why can't I like this several times

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Feverish wrote:

interesting the report states that it appears grassroots is in great shape (something NZF have latched on to), when they do f all for grassroots

which is probably why it's in great shape!

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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Doloras wrote:

I have more respect for the women footballers involved than needing to know the details about how Heraf treated them like shark. The above comment smacks of someone who is suspicious that the silly ladies were crying because a man was manly with them and would like to tell women whether they've been "bullied/abused sufficiently" for his standards.

That seems to be a key basis of the report dealing with the issues with the Ferns ie male and female players need to be treated differently.  See paragraph 19(d).  There are all sorts of issues raised here but I do like others wonder where the “coaching” stopped and the “bullying” started. It’s a valid question, especially if we are going to learn something. Should all Ferns coaches have had previous women’s coaching experience for example?

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Surely the whole board needs to go?

If they haven't seen fit to put any accountability on Martin, they're complicit via their inaction.

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Surge wrote:

Surely the whole board needs to go?

If they haven't seen fit to put any accountability on Martin, they're complicit via their inaction.

The last AGM hinted at that , #But only time will tell. The Feds appear to have seen through the frosted glass door up north.

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