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In my employment contract there is a six month clause whereby in short it says we appreciate that you have a right to make a living, but if you leave you can't pinch our clients or staff for a period of 6 months.

If it is in my contract which I believe meets employment law I don't see why it can't be NZ footballs.

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That's different though, your contract is talking about clients, the contract that your proposing would restrict the ability for individuals to work.

Lawyerish
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no it mentions taking staff as well - see my initial post

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I doubt any contract which restricts the ability for someone to change employment is enforceable.

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Ryan wrote:

I doubt any contract which restricts the ability for someone to change employment is enforceable.

Wrong..... thats what a contract is for.....
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Ryan wrote:

I doubt any contract which restricts the ability for someone to change employment is enforceable.

Non compete clauses?
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In my employment contract there is a six month clause whereby in short it says we appreciate that you have a right to make a living, but if you leave you can't pinch our clients or staff for a period of 6 months.

If it is in my contract which I believe meets employment law I don't see why it can't be NZ footballs.

Emblen hasn't been on contract with NZF since June.

Bazeley's NZF contract would have ended the same time as Hudson's.

Kim's NZF contract would have ended the same time as Hudson's.

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In my employment contract there is a six month clause whereby in short it says we appreciate that you have a right to make a living, but if you leave you can't pinch our clients or staff for a period of 6 months.

If it is in my contract which I believe meets employment law I don't see why it can't be NZ footballs.

Emblen hasn't been on contract with NZF since June.

Bazeley's NZF contract would have ended the same time as Hudson's.

Kim's NZF contract would have ended the same time as Hudson's.

When you think about it, that’s probably quite an obvious situation that was not considered
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Bullion wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I doubt any contract which restricts the ability for someone to change employment is enforceable.

Non compete clauses?

No, a clause which states you won't hire a former coworker if you leave.

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Ryan wrote:

Bullion wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I doubt any contract which restricts the ability for someone to change employment is enforceable.

Non compete clauses?

No, a clause which states you won't hire a former coworker if you leave.

Those are standard and enforceable 

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james dean wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Bullion wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I doubt any contract which restricts the ability for someone to change employment is enforceable.

Non compete clauses?

No, a clause which states you won't hire a former coworker if you leave.

Those are standard and enforceable 

They would cover only people under NZF's employment, right? Which none of these people are.

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Colvinator wrote:

Graham Arnold our preferred candidate:

GRAHAM ARNOLD COULD COACH NEW ZEALAND

That I would like.
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Could Arnold coach NZ and Sydney in the first year? Especially when AW games are few and far between?

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james dean wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Bullion wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I doubt any contract which restricts the ability for someone to change employment is enforceable.

Non compete clauses?

No, a clause which states you won't hire a former coworker if you leave.

Those are standard and enforceable 

Sure, but usually only in a limited time/geographic area?  Would a worldwide non-compete hold up in court?  Not sure of the precedent there.

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pierre wrote:

Could Arnold coach NZ and Sydney in the first year? Especially when AW games are few and far between?

Arnold to pull a Ricki and coach the nix...

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james dean wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Bullion wrote:

Ryan wrote:

I doubt any contract which restricts the ability for someone to change employment is enforceable.

Non compete clauses?

No, a clause which states you won't hire a former coworker if you leave.

Those are standard and enforceable 

They aren't neccersarily enforceable, they violate antitrust laws.

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the whole point here is that the coaches and staff hudson picked up were potentially out of contract - if they were under contract and they had clauses which allowed NZF to deny them the chance to move (rightly or wrongly) to a competing "business" then Hudson would not have been able to gut NZF.

Putting a clause in Hudson's contract is a little trickier but as was pointed out if NZF were organised they would have contracted those guys they wanted to keep.

Anyway I'm not that worried (admit I don't know how good the video guy was) but let Heraf recruit some continental Europeans (sure he knows a few) that will all row the same direction in terms of philosophy of play etc and rebuild.

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pierre wrote:

Could Arnold coach NZ and Sydney in the first year? Especially when AW games are few and far between?

Love to see it but sadly can't see it happening even though Arnold is miles ahead of the previous incumbent.

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You don't see that very often do you? Managers moving across genders. I know we just had Heraf take over the Silver Ferns, but he came from an administrative role.

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You don't see that very often do you? Managers moving across genders. I know we just had Heraf take over the Silver Ferns, but he came from an administrative role.

He is taking the Netball Team?
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Same same :D I'm terrible with nicknames of sports teams - get them mixed up all the time!

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Herdman's really done good since leaving NZ.

Canadian men's team - perennial underachievers of CONCACAF.

They look to currently have a promising crop of players in Major League Soccer and internationally.

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On news.com.au...

"It’s believed the All Whites, who missed out on qualification for the upcoming World Cup in Russia, would be happy for [Graham] Arnold to coach the team in conjunction with his duties at Sydney. The Sydney FC boss said that possibility had not been discussed.

“That would be two discussions that I would need to have,” Arnold said.

“One with the All Whites and one with Sydney FC.”

http://www.news.com.au/sport/football/wanted-man-g...

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Ok guys, do we actually want Graham Arnold as our coach?

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Ok guys, do we actually want Graham Arnold as our coach?

Yes
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Ok guys, do we actually want Graham Arnold as our coach?

Yes, but surely we should at least give Kaledzić until the end of the season? ;)

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Ok guys, do we actually want Graham Arnold as our coach?

Yes

Yes... But know way it will happen. No way. He's using the rumour as a bargaining chip to get the Aussie gig, and if he fails at that then he might as well sit pretty at Sydney and keep winning everything and be paid well
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The Aussies might just hire a coach for the World Cup and then reappoint after that. He'd want to be free for that eventuality you'd think.

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Ok guys, do we actually want Graham Arnold as our coach?

Yes

Yes... But know way it will happen. No way. He's using the rumour as a bargaining chip to get the Aussie gig, and if he fails at that then he might as well sit pretty at Sydney and keep winning everything and be paid well

Personally I'm hoping he does a Herbert, its not as if we play much anyway.  

I do think though we are being used as a pawn for the Aussie gig which I don't much like.  If Aussie brings in someone else, will he man up and the the AW gig?  Personally I'm not sure he will, even though I'd love him to take over.

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Interesting to hear on the commentary on Saturday night that we got very close to signing him last time. But it fell through.

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Ok guys, do we actually want Graham Arnold as our coach?

Yes

Yes... But know way it will happen. No way. He's using the rumour as a bargaining chip to get the Aussie gig, and if he fails at that then he might as well sit pretty at Sydney and keep winning everything and be paid well

Surely if he was going to get the Aussie job he'd have been given it by now

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2ndBest wrote:

Interesting to hear on the commentary on Saturday night that we got very close to signing him last time. But it fell through.


Fred said something about a "third party" causing it to fall over which was all very cryptic.  

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james dean wrote:

Ok guys, do we actually want Graham Arnold as our coach?

Yes

Yes... But know way it will happen. No way. He's using the rumour as a bargaining chip to get the Aussie gig, and if he fails at that then he might as well sit pretty at Sydney and keep winning everything and be paid well

Surely if he was going to get the Aussie job he'd have been given it by now

Your not allowed to comment about that - your not from a country that has qualified for a world cup.

https://twitter.com/LucyZelic/status/952074239913353216

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aitkenmike wrote:

james dean wrote:

Ok guys, do we actually want Graham Arnold as our coach?

Yes

Yes... But know way it will happen. No way. He's using the rumour as a bargaining chip to get the Aussie gig, and if he fails at that then he might as well sit pretty at Sydney and keep winning everything and be paid well

Surely if he was going to get the Aussie job he'd have been given it by now

Your not allowed to comment about that - your not from a country that has qualified for a world cup.

https://twitter.com/LucyZelic/status/952074239913353216

What a pompous bitch - Slater, Harper, Simon Hill, Bozza, they're all appalled at the fact there's no Aussie coach yet. She's just an spiteful, poor man's Tara Rushton
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aitkenmike wrote:

james dean wrote:

Ok guys, do we actually want Graham Arnold as our coach?

Yes

Yes... But know way it will happen. No way. He's using the rumour as a bargaining chip to get the Aussie gig, and if he fails at that then he might as well sit pretty at Sydney and keep winning everything and be paid well

Surely if he was going to get the Aussie job he'd have been given it by now

Your not allowed to comment about that - your not from a country that has qualified for a world cup.

https://twitter.com/LucyZelic/status/952074239913353216

What a pompous bitch - Slater, Harper, Simon Hill, Bozza, they're all appalled at the fact there's no Aussie coach yet. She's just an spiteful, poor man's Tara Rushton

Is that Ned Zelic's daughter? 

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With them being Australian she could be his daughter AND sister.

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