The Travelling Circus - playing home games around NZ

I didn't mention it in my original post as I was using it as a demonstration of how resources are going to NZF & not into other areas that could develop the A-league team & improve our metrics which is a reason that has been given for the need to have the Traveling Circus.  

I also didn't mention an Entry Fee. 

Does the entry fee cover the cost of travel & accommodation for up to 18 players & officials?

Do any other teams in SSP pay NZF another fee for the right to have professional youth players PLAY in the SSP?

You are comparing two different things. 

This is quite interesting (the extra fee). I have asked my sauce for more info, not that I'm doubting yours. Sounds authoritative.

It's not Travelling Circus related though so we should probably move it to the SS Prem thread. Or just change this thread title to "Circus".

Wonder how many professional clubs in the world that loose money get rid of their academies. 

QPR did for one but after a few years got it back. They had a youth team but not an academy.

So much semantics to squirm getting out of a hole. You may as well scream "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

Well done though Hatter, you've managed to make me question why I bother doing what I do with your constant "company line" snides in here.

Nice job.

So my mocking of your drums skills wasn't enough?

Because you love the Nix, and more people love what you do than people that are dicks about it, and lots of people kinda like your kinda ok drumming?

That last bits a lie, everyone loves your kinda ok drumming.

We all make choices in our lives, you are free choose to do anything you want, I've got nothing to do with it!

Once again you have chosen to go off topic. Please move your post to " things that make you go Hmmmmmmmmm!"

Gah, off topic and apologies for that but Hatter having done some digging I can confirm from a sauce that everyone who enters the SSPrem pays the exact same fee. The Phoenix do not pay any additional fee. So your sauce was misleading you. 

I would be very surprised if the information I was given is incorrect, but, I will bow to your apparently far superior source, & accept that comments from  Phoenix Admin, no matter who they come from, cannot be trusted, even when a comment is made in writing! 

Dear oh dear. I hoped this thread might be worth reading, but no.

More entertaining than the last two Phoenix matches. I reckon if Hatter and I held a debate we'd get a bigger croud than New Plymouth too.

Don't. Get. Me. Started. On. Andy. Fudgeing. Harper...

Oooh would there be a pretty volcano in the background?

Wonder if the discrepancy between Hatter's source and others is related to Trillian, who, per that Suburbs programme Smithy posted, help every team except the Phoenix, so in practical terms, the Phoenix have to pay costs the others don't.

Probably a misprint. Smithy will have the true facts, as my source has been proven, beyond any doubt, to be full of the proverbial!

There is probably more truth in that statement than you realise. And possibly for the next few games too. (Insert Sad/Crying Smilie).

I'm not sure if you do this on purpose or just can't tell that you do it?

Anyway, obviously there is a difference between a) everyone pays a fee but the Phoenix can't get gaming machine funding because they're a professional club and b) only the Phoenix have to pay a fee.

You said (b) was true. I don't think it is.

By the way Hatter if your source a) works for the Phoenix and b) was having a huge whinge about how the world is so unfair and the deck is stacked against them and NZF are clueless then I reckon I can narrow it down to one man.

Last I saw someone drops 100k donation into a charity dodgily set up a while back and then they add with some pokie $ and then pay coaches and the likes of Rogerson, McGarry out of it.

Not sure what they see the benefits of the academy being- nor what it has to do with this thread!

Just one?

Close but not quite correct. 

What I said was "Wellington Phoenix are the ONLY domestic club that have to pay NZF to PLAY in the SS Premiership."

I made no mention of a fee!

It's irrelevant now though, as my source has been exposed as being unreliable.

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So, who's looking forward to the game at QBE Stadium on March 4? I predict a much better crowd of 7109 ??

It's a long drive, anyone interested in accompanying me? Driving up early morning, go to game, driving back. Not sure about a stop for the night, depends on the mood. Another loss and grrrrrr. Just prefer to get out of Auckland asap. With the new Waikato expressway, this could be a shorter or quicker drive.

Ps: Even though I am one of the most critical of the Travelling Circus, for some strange reason I still feel compelled to attend. Perhaps it is to keep up the 100% attendence record or what? Who knows?

Can't wait to hear how many outings there will be next season for the Traveling Circus, especially after last nights magnificent crowd of 6285!

Four Traveling Circus games this season have had crowds totalling 22k. Is that good enough for Rob Morrison? People NOT buying season memberships next season due to loss of perceived value & lack of connection with the club. Was this the aim of the Traveling Circus?

I would be interested to see what targets were set for the Traveling Circus & if any of those targets were achieved. If they weren't achieved are there steps going to be taken to find out why they failed?

The winners are the people who live in the towns that the Traveling Circus visits, & it is great for them to see their club locally for once. But if they only go to that one game each year, it is surely offset by the Wellington based supporter who doesn't go & follow the Traveling Circus. 

The people who reside outside of Wellington & choose to support a team from Wellington, do not have to support a team from a different City, but, they have made that choice to do so. 

In my view, the Traveling Circus is a good concept, if it was working, but, its not. The crowds are terrible, the games are played on ridiculous days, where they are competing against other events, or having two games on consecutive weekends before Christmas.

If they are evenly spaced & promoted so that locals know that the game is on, & they are not competing against a bigger/better event on the same day, they could be succesful. But, it is glaringly obvious that over the past few years, the management of the Phoenix look at the Traveling Circus as a way of losing less money, as opposed to costing them to have a home game in Wellington. I'm no expert, but, is this the attitude of owners that say they want to expand the club? I don't think it is.

Due to the Traveling Circus not working any more, I feel it is time to scrap it.

My best counterargument: Nix unbeaten in Auckland over 6 years.

Also unbeaten in Napier with zero goals conceded here...

If that's your best counter argument, it explains a lot of your other posts. 

All of our arguments explain our other posts

Form wise have we picked up more points in Wellington or around the country?

655 kms up and 655 kms back, I am knackered.

Well done.

Just to be the man who drove 1310km to fall down at your door...

Not sure that scans...

I was thinking of the Roly song on the way back home too. :Andy drove 406 miles and Andy drove 406 more just be the man who..." But it doesn't quite work!! (Insert laughing emojo)

My opinion is that home games in Wellington should not be a rare occasion

and away games in Wellington?