Given where we finished before the break it was a shame the team missed an opportunity to really make a statement about our title challenge. Dosnt really matter which way you look at it what was served up last nite was well below what they had shown before the break. Until we can go to places like Brisbane and perform there will be questions asked.
I just thought all our attacking players had quiet nights...Roly, Wee Mac, Burns and Krishna....that can't happen too often can it?
I am not blaming Krishna but if he had put away his two chances, we would have walked all over them. They were really struggling and got a goal that lifted them immensley. still considering the conditions and our teams ability to sometimes gift the ball away and it was not soley Lia guilty of this. Riera did play his part too. But they were not alone. These things happen and against WSW, we will see if they bounce back. Probably WSW first win of the season just to fudge us all off. Hopefully the anti jinx statement.
Lia may not have cost us the game but he surely added nothing to our cause. One of the worst performances I have seen from a Phoenix player especially in the second half
Massive over reaction.
Lia was very very poor. In the second half he made very few completed passes and was down to walk for the last 30-minutes. When he shoots at goal he reminds me of a Masters 4 grade player with his pathetic efforts.
They say he has not scored for 85 games well it makes me wonder how he did score? Maybe a mis hit which fluked its way in. I cannot remember Lia ever placing a shot on the goal.
Jesus Chrisrt! what a load of miserable sods you lot are. We lost by a goal a single goal , after a month off , in Brisbane , in the heat. We're still in fourth. Smile ffs
Lia may not have cost us the game but he surely added nothing to our cause. One of the worst performances I have seen from a Phoenix player especially in the second half
Massive over reaction.
Lia was very very poor. In the second half he made very few completed passes and was down to walk for the last 30-minutes. When he shoots at goal he reminds me of a Masters 4 grade player with his pathetic efforts.
They say he has not scored for 85 games well it makes me wonder how he did score? Maybe a mis hit which fluked its way in. I cannot remember Lia ever placing a shot on the goal.
We lost by one goal ffs. The way some are talking, you would have thought we lost by 5 it 6 goals. I'm pretty sure that the worst Nix player performance came in one of the games when we did lose like that, not last night.
In any case, Brisbane seemed to hit a groove just in time for the game. Broich has great touch and everyone around seemed to respond. Ernie's game plan for possesion football and a passing game was left a bit short in execution, still 2-3 away from home against former champions....not disasterous. Move on, next game. Btw, some of our Brisbane hammers who went to the game had nice words to say about the away support
That game could easily have gone our way, and people would have been raving.
At 2-2, Ernie brought on Boyd when Boxall (certainly in retrospect) would have been a better swap.
Takes a brave manager to swap out a central defender, but last night I think we needed it.
Yeah Lia falling over and giving it away didn't help, but there were times when we were really good.
Absolutely fudgeing gutted to lose that but I still enjoyed the game
#wank
I just thought all our attacking players had quiet nights...Roly, Wee Mac, Burns and Krishna....that can't happen too often can it?
disagree.
I thought Krishna was good.
I think Roly might have scored two if he'd been left on, but he didn't have a great night.
I do think having Lia on at the end was stubborn foolishness. I don't blame Vinny, I blame Ernie asking to do a job he can no longer do. Case in point was when Brown ran around him just with pace, and he was like a guy stuck in the mud.
Brisbane at home with those guys back were a different proposition. We couldn't bury the game and they did. It could have gone either way.
That game could easily have gone our way, and people would have been raving.
At 2-2, Ernie brought on Boyd when Boxall (certainly in retrospect) would have been a better swap.
Takes a brave manager to swap out a central defender, but last night I think we needed it.
Yeah Lia falling over and giving it away didn't help, but there were times when we were really good.
Boxall is fit young and faster...yep. I was thinking that at the end. Again could have been a better option.
The players + Ernie couldn't do the job.
Thought Manny and Louis outwide did a good job, or least worked really damn hard with some reward.
Or Boxall for Lia and Dura into the midfield. Yeh. Didn't happen. Anyone got anything good to say about Kenny? Boyd should come on for Roy and then Boxall for Lia perhaps. And A-Rod for Burns...would have been happier with that I think...still Boxall mighta cost us a peno and a red...no one ever knows what might have been...
Lia may not have cost us the game but he surely added nothing to our cause. One of the worst performances I have seen from a Phoenix player especially in the second half
Massive over reaction.
Lia was very very poor. In the second half he made very few completed passes and was down to walk for the last 30-minutes. When he shoots at goal he reminds me of a Masters 4 grade player with his pathetic efforts.
They say he has not scored for 85 games well it makes me wonder how he did score? Maybe a mis hit which fluked its way in. I cannot remember Lia ever placing a shot on the goal.
Lia may not have cost us the game but he surely added nothing to our cause. One of the worst performances I have seen from a Phoenix player especially in the second half
Massive over reaction.
Lia was very very poor. In the second half he made very few completed passes and was down to walk for the last 30-minutes. When he shoots at goal he reminds me of a Masters 4 grade player with his pathetic efforts.
They say he has not scored for 85 games well it makes me wonder how he did score? Maybe a mis hit which fluked its way in. I cannot remember Lia ever placing a shot on the goal.
lazy b. you are
feast your eyes on this magnificence from 55 seconds
That was one of the few good results (a draw) in Melbourne if I remember correct too
Vinnieeeeeeeeeeee!
That was one of the few good results (a draw) in Melbourne if I remember correct too
I was at that game. Was it the same one Kevin Muscat was sent off in?
I know this a bit late now. But with the nix losing and winston signing for sp*rs, this was a horrid start to the week. Luckily it's onky 4 days long.
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Lia may not have cost us the game but he surely added nothing to our cause. One of the worst performances I have seen from a Phoenix player especially in the second half
Massive over reaction.
Lia was very very poor. In the second half he made very few completed passes and was down to walk for the last 30-minutes. When he shoots at goal he reminds me of a Masters 4 grade player with his pathetic efforts.
They say he has not scored for 85 games well it makes me wonder how he did score? Maybe a mis hit which fluked its way in. I cannot remember Lia ever placing a shot on the goal.
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Gee thats insightful
We lost by one goal ffs. The way some are talking, you would have thought we lost by 5 it 6 goals. I'm pretty sure that the worst Nix player performance came in one of the games when we did lose like that, not last night.
We lost.
there were some parts that were poor
its ok to vent your frustration about them
FFS
Yeah..I don't really see any unreasonable venting. I don't understand why people always chime in with that comment after a loss - like we aren't allowed to criticise the performance when the team and players would be doing the same thing internally anyway.
It's because sometimes you get the feeling that a lot of comments are made on the back of the result, rather than on the back of the performance. For example I wouldn't mind betting that had Brisbane fluffed the chance in injury time and we snuck away with a draw there would be a much more positive vibe in this thread.
yeah nah definitely. Full credit to the opposition, they gave the boys a good work out. If we scored 2 more goals we would have won the game.
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Lia may not have cost us the game but he surely added nothing to our cause. One of the worst performances I have seen from a Phoenix player especially in the second half
Massive over reaction.
Lia was very very poor. In the second half he made very few completed passes and was down to walk for the last 30-minutes. When he shoots at goal he reminds me of a Masters 4 grade player with his pathetic efforts.
They say he has not scored for 85 games well it makes me wonder how he did score? Maybe a mis hit which fluked its way in. I cannot remember Lia ever placing a shot on the goal.
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Gee thats insightful
Something positive, Our goals where both great. Burns cutback and then Krishna fudges it in. That is what you want from a top striker, right timing and then goal. Cunningham the same, how often do you see them running around the box chasing balls, finally it worked. Thanks Kenny for not giving up! I'll personal take five of them instead of one wonder goal.
It's because sometimes you get the feeling that a lot of comments are made on the back of the result, rather than on the back of the performance. For example I wouldn't mind betting that had Brisbane fluffed the chance in injury time and we snuck away with a draw there would be a much more positive vibe in this thread.
I think if we got away with the draw everyone would be saying similar things, to be honest. Doesn't change the peformance. Any point would've felt unearned.
It's because sometimes you get the feeling that a lot of comments are made on the back of the result, rather than on the back of the performance. For example I wouldn't mind betting that had Brisbane fluffed the chance in injury time and we snuck away with a draw there would be a much more positive vibe in this thread.
I think if we got away with the draw everyone would be saying similar things, to be honest. Doesn't change the peformance. Any point would've felt unearned.
Exactly - We deserved to lose based on that second half performance.
Historically we do not do well over there (at Brisbane). While we might have been close to a draw this time the end of a long non-losing streak had to come to an end eventually. Anyway, this kind of statistics is better suited to Wisden Almanac than to our end-of-season table placing.
While I have no loyalty to the Roar, I am happy that they seem to be picking themselves up off the floor. Good team, decent supporters and good club tradition. Good opposition improves us as well, long term. It's enough as it is with WSW and the Jets underperforming this year.
I think (hope) it was just one of those nights. We didn't look up for it and I thought we looked fairly disjointed. The break obviously hasn't done us any favours. Lacklustre effort all round, the defending at all 3 goals was appalling.
I'm sure we'll be back on track and the seats on the bandwagon will all be full again after this weekend.
Just watched a replay. Thought Manny had a very bad night and I thought it was very premature taking Bonavacia off (unless he was injured). Never had control of the midfield.
Just watched a replay. Thought Manny had a very bad night and I thought it was very premature taking Bonavacia off (unless he was injured). Never had control of the midfield.
Manny had a torrid night and might have been given a second yellow by a different referee. I do not think he was coping well with the pace of Polenz who was out to prove himself to the fans and the coach.
I can't blame Ernie for trying to effect a change in midfield. I thought Roly was patchy because he was suffering due to the unfamiliar weather (hot and humid). Possibly bringing Boxall on might have been a better move than putting another attacker on the park, but that is all a post-mortem speculation and I am no Ernie.
Just watched a replay. Thought Manny had a very bad night and I thought it was very premature taking Bonavacia off (unless he was injured). Never had control of the midfield.
Roly was knackered 40 minutes in. When he came off he looked exhausted. Think he would've stayed on if Ernie thought he could've, but likely didn't want to risk him getting another occurrence of that injury.
Just watched a replay. Thought Manny had a very bad night and I thought it was very premature taking Bonavacia off (unless he was injured). Never had control of the midfield.
Manny had a torrid night and might have been given a second yellow by a different referee. I do not think he was coping well with the pace of Polenz who was out to prove himself to the fans and the coach.
I can't blame Ernie for trying to effect a change in midfield. I thought Roly was patchy because he was suffering due to the unfamiliar weather (hot and humid). Possibly bringing Boxall on might have been a better move than putting another attacker on the park, but that is all a post-mortem speculation and I am no Ernie.
Roly is one of our top 3 or 4 players so he'd have to be playing pretty badly for me to take him off
Just watched a replay. Thought Manny had a very bad night and I thought it was very premature taking Bonavacia off (unless he was injured). Never had control of the midfield.
Manny had a torrid night and might have been given a second yellow by a different referee. I do not think he was coping well with the pace of Polenz who was out to prove himself to the fans and the coach.
I can't blame Ernie for trying to effect a change in midfield. I thought Roly was patchy because he was suffering due to the unfamiliar weather (hot and humid). Possibly bringing Boxall on might have been a better move than putting another attacker on the park, but that is all a post-mortem speculation and I am no Ernie.
Roly is one of our top 3 or 4 players so he'd have to be playing pretty badly for me to take him off
For sure, and I think Ernie realises that too - just in this situation he was suffering; made sense for him to come off. Unfortunately I don't think Lia/Riera/Rod works - there isn't someone to carry the ball and push forward out of that 3, all seem to work better when that burden is taken off them by someone like Roly.
Just watched a replay. Thought Manny had a very bad night and I thought it was very premature taking Bonavacia off (unless he was injured). Never had control of the midfield.
Manny had a torrid night and might have been given a second yellow by a different referee. I do not think he was coping well with the pace of Polenz who was out to prove himself to the fans and the coach.
I can't blame Ernie for trying to effect a change in midfield. I thought Roly was patchy because he was suffering due to the unfamiliar weather (hot and humid). Possibly bringing Boxall on might have been a better move than putting another attacker on the park, but that is all a post-mortem speculation and I am no Ernie.
Roly is one of our top 3 or 4 players so he'd have to be playing pretty badly for me to take him off
14 passes in 60 minutes. A-rod achieved that in half the time.
didn't want to risk him getting another occurrence of that injury
What injury was that?
Just watched a replay. Thought Manny had a very bad night and I thought it was very premature taking Bonavacia off (unless he was injured). Never had control of the midfield.
Manny had a torrid night and might have been given a second yellow by a different referee. I do not think he was coping well with the pace of Polenz who was out to prove himself to the fans and the coach.
I can't blame Ernie for trying to effect a change in midfield. I thought Roly was patchy because he was suffering due to the unfamiliar weather (hot and humid). Possibly bringing Boxall on might have been a better move than putting another attacker on the park, but that is all a post-mortem speculation and I am no Ernie.
Roly is one of our top 3 or 4 players so he'd have to be playing pretty badly for me to take him off
14 passes in 60 minutes. A-rod achieved that in half the time.
He didn't look great I agree, it's just that when he goes off we don't have anyone who can do what he does and properly spring from midfield into attack. We end up looking a lot more functional
belated post, and just teh way I saw it, but I thought Brisbane did a great job with compressing play and coordinated pressing on us. Our get out of jail short passing option was often covered
So, like Perth in R1 they just put a lot of pressure on, were quite happy to make contact to disrupt flow and had the pace to be on us to make that work
you tend to have bad nights when the other guy puts you under pressure. So, sure, we had players off their best, and sure it was a bit rough after the break, and the pitch maybe didn't help, plus the usual weather/fatique, but I think you have to give Brisbane a lot of credit for making it very difficult. Just off the top of my head I think they had a player sitting a bit higher to disrupt back passes and switches, so it looks a well devised plan to me.
I thought it was a night where Rolly needed more help from Burns and McG, and they both needed to be better options for Lia and Riera. but I don't remember them dropping to help much. With Sydney, Brisbane and MelbC improving we can expect more games where our midfield is under real pressure. I think Ernie will fix that.
didn't want to risk him getting another occurrence of that injury
What injury was that?
Believe he had a hammy problem just before the break?
