Match 3 vs Newcastle Jets | Sun 24th Jan | 8:05pm | SS7

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Outpost wrote:

If nothing else it's reassuring to see how many chances we have created but failed to convert because of bad luck and exceptional keeping.

Yeah didn't play well, bad also no luck at all. Hit woodwork twice, contentious non pen call. Duncan with couple of big saves. 

Fenton should have come on 10 mins earlier for Payne who looked dog tired.

Maybe will be a season where Nix do better with their away games, which at least will have some atmosphere with fans. Must be hard to get excited to be playing at the Gong in front of so few. No 'home' advantage at all.

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coochiee wrote:

Royz wrote:

Yep theres our season gone.

FFS learn to spell you illiterate moron.

I have dyslexia, could you please stop cyber bulling me over it.
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Marquee
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Obviously its selective dyslexia.

WeeNix
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First of all, I think the penalty that was not given, changed the game. Clearly, a lot of heads dropped straight away. Sotirio was a surprise starter for me. While he does have pace to hurt slow defenders, Bogaard and Topor-stanley are experienced defenders. They dealt extremely well with Sotirio. Still would've preferred Lewis over Sotirio. He's got a bit of pace, but also technical ability. Hemed a frustrated figure.McGarry was great today. I think it is time to get TAWH at CB instead of Laws. While Laws is a fantastic player, TAWH has a bit more experience at CB, and can read the game a bit better. Fenton was brilliant off the bench. He brought energy as well as more crosses. So many chances, but no goals from open play.  Hemed comes near post, yet we cross far post. STILL A TEAM IN PROGRESS!

Hope the boys can bounce back and deliver a shock next week against CCM.

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Royz wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Royz wrote:

Yep theres our season gone.

FFS learn to spell you illiterate moron.

I have dyslexia, could you please stop cyber bulling me over it.

First if you feel bullied, genuinely sorry as bullying of any form can be awful.

2nd use spell check if you have dyslexia.

3rd don't post inane, negative, false comments all the time - you only make yourself a target.

Sorry again, back to the football. 

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Arrrrrgh. So Unlucky.. again.

So would have Rufer being out there made a difference. Did that red card cost us 4 points?

Can we please not start Sotirio again this season. Impact sub sure, but play the guys with the ball skills first and foremost. 

Our defence has now been exposed, which is a real worry.  And what's up with Marinovic?

We need to start scoring because we look like we are going to be conceding a lot more than last season.

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Maybe the 4 - 0 loss to the Wollongong Wolves should have been a wake up, defensively.

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NZPhoenixFan wrote:

First of all, I think the penalty that was not given, changed the game. Clearly, a lot of heads dropped straight away. Sotirio was a surprise starter for me. While he does have pace to hurt slow defenders, Bogaard and Topor-stanley are experienced defenders. They dealt extremely well with Sotirio. Still would've preferred Lewis over Sotirio. He's got a bit of pace, but also technical ability. Hemed a frustrated figure. The service to him was very poor. Payne, instead of running at defenders all of the time, should try to cross it in. McGarry was great today. I think it is time to get TAWH at CB instead of Laws. While Laws is a fantastic player, TAWH has a bit more experience at CB, and can read the game a bit better. Fenton was brilliant off the bench. He brought energy as well as more crosses. So many chances, but no goals from open play.  Hemed comes near post, yet we cross far post. STILL A TEAM IN PROGRESS!

Sorry to say, but I don't see how we can beat CCM next week. 

Our pressure at the start came from their inability to deal with Sotirio IMO?

I had the kind of opposite feeling- liked McGarry, but wished he'd try to drive into the box occasionally instead of crossing every time. The movement in the box shows the front 3 havent played together enough. 

Laws found out for the goal, yeh- open to TAWH, but think Rufer back would mean more drive and leadership and also Ridenton as a sub, where he was effective.

Think we missed leadership today that Taylor and Libby used to give, Rufer out and Marinovic had a weak game. Devlin was huge, but just the difference in squads and we missed a host of good chances.

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martinb wrote:

NZPhoenixFan wrote:

First of all, I think the penalty that was not given, changed the game. Clearly, a lot of heads dropped straight away. Sotirio was a surprise starter for me. While he does have pace to hurt slow defenders, Bogaard and Topor-stanley are experienced defenders. They dealt extremely well with Sotirio. Still would've preferred Lewis over Sotirio. He's got a bit of pace, but also technical ability. Hemed a frustrated figure. The service to him was very poor. Payne, instead of running at defenders all of the time, should try to cross it in. McGarry was great today. I think it is time to get TAWH at CB instead of Laws. While Laws is a fantastic player, TAWH has a bit more experience at CB, and can read the game a bit better. Fenton was brilliant off the bench. He brought energy as well as more crosses. So many chances, but no goals from open play.  Hemed comes near post, yet we cross far post. STILL A TEAM IN PROGRESS!

Sorry to say, but I don't see how we can beat CCM next week. 

Our pressure at the start came from their inability to deal with Sotirio IMO?

I had the kind of opposite feeling- liked McGarry, but wished he'd try to drive into the box occasionally instead of crossing every time. The movement in the box shows the front 3 havent played together enough. 

Laws found out for the goal, yeh- open to TAWH, but think Rufer back would mean more drive and leadership and also Ridenton as a sub, where he was effective.

Think we missed leadership today that Taylor and Libby used to give, Rufer out and Marinovic had a weak game. Devlin was huge, but just the difference in squads and we missed a host of good chances.

Thought De Vere was more at fault for the first goal. He rushed up out of the line, made a hash of holding up O'Donovan and allowed him to turn and send Yuel away. Laws simply lost the foot race.

In fact De Vere had another couple of bad moments in the 2nd half that almost cost goals. Not one of his better games.

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Lost a bit of confidence in Uffie at moment- still think he is best coach we’ve had, but his starting lineup this game more questions than answers. Thought best thing to come from Game 2 was promising pairing of McGarry and Lewis down the left. So our starting lineup changed with Sotiro virtually a formation change???  Did we consider putting Payne as DF and starting Fenton at RB? Didn’t think any changes were needed apart from the forced Rufer one. Someone suggested Sail instead of Marinovic - am starting to agree, and change DeVere to Hudson-Wihongi too and  possibly bring in McGing for Laws - our defence looked way slow. The Kiwis looked sharp but the Aussies a little slow - are we playing the Aussies to appease the Wollongong crowds? Every game seems to be an away one - perhaps we should shift to Hobart, or possibly Canberra as I reckon the crowd support there would be way better. My Vote for Man of Match- Alex Rufer.

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Royz wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Royz wrote:

Yep theres our season gone.

FFS learn to spell you illiterate moron.

I have dyslexia, could you please stop cyber bulling me over it.

Maybe you could stop 'cyber bullying' the players? 

I realise your account is an attempted joke, but you are really not funny.

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Son of a Don wrote:

Lost a bit of confidence in Uffie at moment- still think he is best coach we’ve had, but his starting lineup this game more questions than answers. Thought best thing to come from Game 2 was promising pairing of McGarry and Lewis down the left. So our starting lineup changed with Sotiro virtually a formation change???  Did we consider putting Payne as DF and starting Fenton at RB? Didn’t think any changes were needed apart from the forced Rufer one. Someone suggested Sail instead of Marinovic - am starting to agree, and change DeVere to Hudson-Wihongi too and  possibly bring in McGing for Laws - our defence looked way slow. The Kiwis looked sharp but the Aussies a little slow - are we playing the Aussies to appease the Wollongong crowds? Every game seems to be an away one - perhaps we should shift to Hobart, or possibly Canberra as I reckon the crowd support there would be way better. My Vote for Man of Match- Alex Rufer.

I think the best way to help a keeper regain confidence, or form, is not to drop them after only 3 games. Marinovic is our best keeper, he's shown that on numerous occassions, hopefully the coaching staff can work some magic on him.

Also worth keeping in mind we the Nix were at the same stage last year (3 losses). Playing well but not getting results. Eventually everything clicked and the results starting flowing.

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Sail, Rufer and Piscopo should all start next in our match. We will need our strongest 11 to have any chance of beating CCM.

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djtim3000 wrote:
 

Also worth keeping in mind we the Nix were at the same stage last year (3 losses).

 

It felt like a loss after dominating, then the Rufer red, but we drew with McArthur. 

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The team’s issues regarding the goal drought lie in the slow transition into the final 1/3 when they are on attack.

They are slow, ponderous and deliberate and this looks like they are uncertain what the final phase and goal scoring move is going to look like.

As a result they completely lose the surprise and advantage of speed. They get to the edge of the penalty area and start going sideways back and forth, backwards, giving the opposition time to gather and set up on defense. It’s happened in very game so far.

On the plus side the passing is usually very crisp and accurate to their credit, right up to the final pass.

Its almost as if that’s been the training mantra these last few weeks – a slow build up and keep possession at all costs.

But is been very predictable and easy to defend.

At half time the shackles are loosened off the wingbacks to press forward with speed and the transformation of the side is palpable. But why wait till then? Can’t the tactics change well before this???This leaves us only 45 minutes to catch up if we’re behind.

If the transition is speeded up through the middle with the likes of Devlin, Ball and Devila working in unison, the transition would create mayhem.

At the moment Hamed is lost and surrounded by the opposition defense on almost every move. He also needs to join the 3 behind him and work moves with them rather than be just a target man

Multiple attacks from multiple sources is the key. There’s plenty to work on. The issues are fixable.

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Frustrating game to watch. One of our biggest issues last night was players playing as individuals and not as a team. Our decision making was terrible. We had several opportunities to release players on the break, whip in a cross, play a through ball etc, but players would opt to go for the shot or run at players and lose the ball.

The first goal was a result of Sotirio losing the ball (ultimately it was De Vere miss timing a tackle, but still). I was a little disappointed Laws didn't slide for the shot, but it is what it is. 

Some of the team selection was poor from Ufuk.

Ball's not a winger and failed to track his man regularly throughout the game. 

I'm not a fan of Sotirio and he didn't do anything to convince me otherwise, but I felt he was set up to fail in the sense that we don't play to his strengths. 

That game felt very reminisiant of the Old Phoenix.

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Reading this forum sometimes has the same IQ draining properties as reading the comments on Stuff articles.

I love it!

WeeNix
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I think we were clearly the better team, but it becomes very hard to score against a team that sets 8 players in their own box from minute 1. I would be more concerned if we had not been the better team in all games we played this season but that is not the case, we just need to learn how to fudgeing finish. 

I look forward to having rufer back as he tends to push forward a fair bit more than ridenton which was a real issue - still not sure what sotirio offers in attack after all this time, he is fast but does not have the skill set or vision to play centrally. 

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coochiee wrote:

Royz wrote:

Yep theres our season gone.

FFS learn to spell you illiterate moron.

punctation, not spelling
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Is Chris Greenacre still on the staff ? I notice we have a new assistant coach & couldn't see him on the bench.

One in a million
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It took Hooper a number of games before he gelled with the other attackers last season, so hopefully Hemed will click in soon.

Marquee
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axxaa wrote:

Is Chris Greenacre still on the staff ? I notice we have a new assistant coach & couldn't see him on the bench.

He's still on the club website and was interviewed from Australia earlier in the month. Maybe he was feeling unwell and with Covid precautions decided to stay home.

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Good press conference from Uffie on the A League website. He sounds very single minded, positive about player and prospects.

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Good press conference from Uffie on the A League website. He sounds very single minded, positive about player and prospects.

Did you notice the bit where he said he wasn't worried about their eight-match winless streak, as a lot of that was last season, "a long time ago," then in his next answer pointed to his players' performances last season as a reason why he has faith in them to turn things around and deal with the challenging run ahead? I enjoyed that bit.

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Good press conference from Uffie on the A League website. He sounds very single minded, positive about player and prospects.

Did you notice the bit where he said he wasn't worried about their eight-match winless streak, as a lot of that was last season, "a long time ago," then in his next answer pointed to his players' performances last season as a reason why he has faith in them to turn things around and deal with the challenging run ahead? I enjoyed that bit.

Is that a contradiction though? Doesn't look like it to me. We've seen that losing 4 games at the start of the season isn't the end of the world and that the players in this squad have history of turning a poor start around. That's a very different thing to assuming that the current form of a football team carries across multiple months and MIQ periods.
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Nelfoos wrote:

Good press conference from Uffie on the A League website. He sounds very single minded, positive about player and prospects.

Did you notice the bit where he said he wasn't worried about their eight-match winless streak, as a lot of that was last season, "a long time ago," then in his next answer pointed to his players' performances last season as a reason why he has faith in them to turn things around and deal with the challenging run ahead? I enjoyed that bit.

Is that a contradiction though? Doesn't look like it to me. We've seen that losing 4 games at the start of the season isn't the end of the world and that the players in this squad have history of turning a poor start around. That's a very different thing to assuming that the current form of a football team carries across multiple months and MIQ periods.

It just tickled me that in one answer he was dismissing the relevance of last season's results then in the next he was leaning on them. Couple of big names (Steinmann, Taylor) missing from last season too. 

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Nelfoos wrote:

Good press conference from Uffie on the A League website. He sounds very single minded, positive about player and prospects.

Did you notice the bit where he said he wasn't worried about their eight-match winless streak, as a lot of that was last season, "a long time ago," then in his next answer pointed to his players' performances last season as a reason why he has faith in them to turn things around and deal with the challenging run ahead? I enjoyed that bit.

Is that a contradiction though? Doesn't look like it to me. We've seen that losing 4 games at the start of the season isn't the end of the world and that the players in this squad have history of turning a poor start around. That's a very different thing to assuming that the current form of a football team carries across multiple months and MIQ periods.

It just tickled me that in one answer he was dismissing the relevance of last season's results then in the next he was leaning on them. Couple of big names (Steinmann, Taylor) missing from last season too. 

Taylor proving to be a big miss.

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Nelfoos wrote:

Good press conference from Uffie on the A League website. He sounds very single minded, positive about player and prospects.

Did you notice the bit where he said he wasn't worried about their eight-match winless streak, as a lot of that was last season, "a long time ago," then in his next answer pointed to his players' performances last season as a reason why he has faith in them to turn things around and deal with the challenging run ahead? I enjoyed that bit.

Is that a contradiction though? Doesn't look like it to me. We've seen that losing 4 games at the start of the season isn't the end of the world and that the players in this squad have history of turning a poor start around. That's a very different thing to assuming that the current form of a football team carries across multiple months and MIQ periods.

It just tickled me that in one answer he was dismissing the relevance of last season's results then in the next he was leaning on them. Couple of big names (Steinmann, Taylor) missing from last season too. 

I mean, if you choose to misinterpret it like that? He's talking about entirely different things in entirely different contexts, seems silly to conflate the two, even if it is "tickling".
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Ryan wrote:

axxaa wrote:

Is Chris Greenacre still on the staff ? I notice we have a new assistant coach & couldn't see him on the bench.

He's still on the club website and was interviewed from Australia earlier in the month. Maybe he was feeling unwell and with Covid precautions decided to stay home.

He was definitely at the game on Sunday. The benches are spread out due to Covid so I think he was sat in the section of stand behind the bench with other club staff

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Nelfoos wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

Good press conference from Uffie on the A League website. He sounds very single minded, positive about player and prospects.

Did you notice the bit where he said he wasn't worried about their eight-match winless streak, as a lot of that was last season, "a long time ago," then in his next answer pointed to his players' performances last season as a reason why he has faith in them to turn things around and deal with the challenging run ahead? I enjoyed that bit.

Is that a contradiction though? Doesn't look like it to me. We've seen that losing 4 games at the start of the season isn't the end of the world and that the players in this squad have history of turning a poor start around. That's a very different thing to assuming that the current form of a football team carries across multiple months and MIQ periods.

It just tickled me that in one answer he was dismissing the relevance of last season's results then in the next he was leaning on them. Couple of big names (Steinmann, Taylor) missing from last season too. 

I mean, if you choose to misinterpret it like that? He's talking about entirely different things in entirely different contexts, seems silly to conflate the two, even if it is "tickling".

That they're different things in different contexts is indeed why it's merely funny, not hypocritical.

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Nelfoos wrote:

Good press conference from Uffie on the A League website. He sounds very single minded, positive about player and prospects.

Did you notice the bit where he said he wasn't worried about their eight-match winless streak, as a lot of that was last season, "a long time ago," then in his next answer pointed to his players' performances last season as a reason why he has faith in them to turn things around and deal with the challenging run ahead? I enjoyed that bit.

Is that a contradiction though? Doesn't look like it to me. We've seen that losing 4 games at the start of the season isn't the end of the world and that the players in this squad have history of turning a poor start around. That's a very different thing to assuming that the current form of a football team carries across multiple months and MIQ periods.

It just tickled me that in one answer he was dismissing the relevance of last season's results then in the next he was leaning on them. Couple of big names (Steinmann, Taylor) missing from last season too. 

And a few home games
WeeNix
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MVC 2-1 PER

Great, that leaves us at the bottom of the table as the only team left to win a game. CCM game is a must win!

Marquee
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Watching the pen incident again, at normal speed not sure how that is not given. Boogaard is actively putting himself in that position, you see that lots where a defender gets penalised for an accidental ankle tap by being in the wrong position, this is no different.

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Bullion wrote:

Watching the pen incident again, at normal speed not sure how that is not given. Boogaard is actively putting himself in that position, you see that lots where a defender gets penalised for an accidental ankle tap by being in the wrong position, this is no different.

absolutely! th whole claim that Boogaard dint not initiate contact is a crock! He is in total control of where he is, he places himself between the ball and Hemed's striking foot - foul/peno all day!

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theprof wrote:

Bullion wrote:

Watching the pen incident again, at normal speed not sure how that is not given. Boogaard is actively putting himself in that position, you see that lots where a defender gets penalised for an accidental ankle tap by being in the wrong position, this is no different.

absolutely! th whole claim that Boogaard dint not initiate contact is a crock! He is in total control of where he is, he places himself between the ball and Hemed's striking foot - foul/peno all day!

Hemed was clear on goal and as he went to shoot he was impeded. It wasn't intentional by Boogard, but he wasn't standing still either. He was running at Hemed at the time of contact. 

Could have gone either way, I've seen that type of contact given before. Just really hope soon some of these grey area decisions actually start going our way. Because if Hemed had managed to scored there, it would have been a very different game.

Marquee
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Long weekend in Wellington, dudes...

This is all I’ve thought about for 4 years when anyone mentions yachting. God boomers love yachting and the all blacks

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