​Is this the weakest Phoenix team ever?

Yip I know, just adding my agreement that Mandi has definitely been a huge help/influence in the middle 

Oh fair enough! I think he's been fantastic too, think he's relishing playing a much more attacking role than he's used to. Doesn't have a technical weakness it seems

Yes. Definitely. We are awful. 

Worst. Team. Ever.

Alex Rufer – you won’t see a top 6 challenging team with someone like him in the squad. 

Has been a revelation, apart from giving away some stupid free kicks he played well tonight

This Rudan guy needs to stop being so fancy with his 5-3-2 foreign tikky-takky nonsense

I can understand why the original post was made. Our squad doesn't look that good. Rudan has been able to get a lot out of his players. He has gotten more out of the youth, foreigners and players who could be classed as journeymen. I'm not too sure how he has done it really. We are the only team in the league without a marquee player too.

Come back in a month's time, around NYE.

Big challenge against WSW and Adelaide. These are the guys we need to beat consistently.

My season satisfaction will be complete once we beat Sydney FC twice in a row.  They're probably kicking themselves now that they did not give the job to Rudan. While Steve Corica is a great guy time will tell if he can match Arnold's quality as a coach.

Adelaide and WSW are a bit too low on the table for their quality. Each of them has given us a bit of hard time already this season, yet should be beatable.

I love being wrong!

And how wrong was I?

(I still think Singh is a bit light at times though).

Really? I think he is a tough bugger. He has no problems mixing it. Look at the goal we scored against Victory, he was having his shirt tugged and he stayed strong on the ball and got a good pass away to Williams who finished beautifully.

In the Brisbane game he simply made fools of them with his runs, at times they could not get near him.

Fantastic win tonight against Wanderers.

Also, great assist from Singh. Lovely touch. Genius!

But I really do think he's too weak on the ball, when he's under pressure.

Look at Krishna. Rarely loses the ball. He's so strong.

Not here to slag off Singh, as he provides great assists, but he needs to be stronger. Loses the ball far, far too easily at times.

Can we get the mods to change this thread name to "this is not the worst nix team ever"? I think they've answered that over the last 7 weeks

Nah title is a lucky charm apparently. Don't jinx it.

Mate you cocked up badly with your statement that this is the worst team, just accept that you were wrong and move on. You are making a bigger fool of yourself.

Nah, I'm more than happy to admit that I was wrong.

I was frustrated, as we looked very very bad more or less everywhere, across the park.

Krishna had lost his magic touch as well.

That's what it's like being a football fan (you should know).

We get frustrated.

I've followed this team from day one and love them to bits.

This is a forum. It's used to post things, where you debate Wellington Phoenix.

If you think I'm a fool for asking if it was the weakest Phoenix team a couple of months ago, then that's fine with me.

And did they look flash in November? No, they didn't they were horribly poor and about the worst I've seen.

Thankfully it's been turned around.

Now, back to my question: Do you agree that Singh looked very weak on the ball (apart from the assist)?

That's my exact point from other games too. The guy comes up with crucial assists, which is ultra important.

But he's too easy to wrestle off the ball IMHO.

And like Rufer and Fenton he'll get stronger as he fills out and trains to develop that.

He's young.  He's good now.  And he should be able to get stronger and better.

I hope you're both right.

He's got quality assists and if he can work on his strength, he'll be a diamond.

And he's definitely improved, compared to the earlier rounds (positioning himself in a good position, when without the ball).

yeah give the kid a break he's 18/19! He has plenty of time to build a bit of muscle and work on his strength. Take a look at Krishna, he essentially the older version of Singh.

Get where you're coming from Danepak, and yes, he's a bit slight, but he's still incredibly young.  He looks stronger than last year and his touch at times is mindblowing. His overall game will continue to improve, along with his bulkiness, that I don't doubt.

And they've followed very different pathways

No other player in our squad other than Singh would have made Fenton assist... special player in the making.

Also, apologies to Fenton. I laughed at the mere thought of you getting minutes this year and you have proven me well wrong and are one of the form fullbacks in the comp.

I was thinking more along their physical attributes, ie height, weight etc. I never saw Krishna when he was young but I imagine he as a slight, lightweight with a lot of pace. Singh is in the slight, lightweight mould.

I just read the thread start to finish, and when I read danepak's first post I thought what a dork. But he was obviously feeling pretty down about the team at that time, and honestly believed what he was posting. 

Fair play to him for returning and saying he was wrong, can't fault the honesty. He could've just quit the forum or stayed out of this thread, many people would've taken that easy option. Fair play danepak. 

That's like a ref at the end of the game coming over and saying, actually I stuffed that decision up. Much appreciated when it does happen.

I think this thread should be kept going (a) because it's funny, and (b) as a reverse jinx. Like the "avoid the spoon" on the League Table thread.

I only played one season of football in recent years, but this happened in that season, and I loved it.

Someone slid in, I shifted the ball just in time, and he cleaned me out. Ref called nothing, I was a bit stroppy, then as I got up and ran past him he said "mate if he didn't get the ball at all I'm sorry, from my angle it looked like he did". I said thanks and moved on, it was very refreshing.  

you've mentioned the reverse jinx now...

Thanks mate. Not planning on going anywhere :-)

I'm not afraid to voice my opinion, especially when we talk football.

And I'm generally not never afraid to admit that I'm wrong ;-)

Good quality to have ! Unlike Charlton ;)

Yep, hasn't been fun being an Addicks supporter for quite some years now.

I actually thought that this season Singh has been looking after himself a lot better than last year when the opposition kept cleaning him up. Part of his development. As a talent nd a quick thinker, this boy is the real deal of potential high class.

To be fair, you were right about Burns and Nichols.

The rest is still lolz

What happens often for me, is that when I believe the least in something, it turns around.

Recent examples, apart from this one:

Melbourne Renegades v Melbourne Stars. I switched off, when Stars were 0/96, chasing 145.

If you followed the grand final, you knew what happened. Stars collapsed and only reached 132.

Switzerland v Denmark. Switzerland scored their 3rd goal after 76 mins. I switched off, as I expected it to get worse (maybe 4-0). With a couple of mins to go, I checked on Livescore. 3-2 and 10 secs later, it changed to 3-3.

Maybe I should be pessimistic more often and give it the 'giving up' attitude.

(Or maybe I should stop watching sport altogether - often suggested by my wife...)

Or you could post your predictions and the rest of us can make money backing against them.LOL

Fellow Addicks supporter here mate!!!

Can you recommend a good therapist?

Also, can you please post a prediction of dire things for Charlton next season on the model of this thread and similarly put a "reverse jinx" on them? 

LOL!!!