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Crowds....different thread but to add my bit, I still struggle to convince the casual wellingtonian along to games. Weather helps,  economic times, results, performance; ultimately this town can cough up 10,000 fans on a regular basis which in a 15,000 stadium creates its own atmosphere.  At Westpac it justs feels empty. Long term if Wellington can keep the licence, build the boutique stadium, the fans will fill it and the atmosphere will be unique. The trick is passion, win lose or draw....every regular plays his/her part. Patrick's conga line, santa hats, 12 pubs, Back Bencher, uniquely different.  Don't be ultras, be contras!

Random post over and out.....Scotty to the transporter room!

Chant Savant
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Jeff Vader wrote:

There are times when it's ok to be a wanker. This is not one of them

Frankie Mac is free to express his opinions on here as much as anyone else. By all means disagree with him but please dont resort to petty name calling.

Marquee
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Frankie Mac wrote:

bottom line is that I think it is a bit odd, but ultimately it has fuck all to do with me.  If you guys are happy doing it, go nuts.  Paint yourself yellow, take a frog on a leash, french kiss anyone who takes the ticket - do what you want.  I hope it works out for you and extra fans start supporting the club and attending on a regular basis.

The one comment on this thread that I do find a bit odd is Patricks - aside from the club being new and the noveltly factor, what has really changed from 2007? People then spoke of the team doing well and the atmosphere being unique as factors in increasing the crowd, and I think that they are still relevant now.  I'd be interested in the variety of reasons for everything being so different.

Good post mate.

No one is saying NOTHING has changed. I think everyone agrees with the part I have bolded. It's not either/or, it is AND. So those things are still true. And no one is saying they are not. And no one is saying we shouldn't do that. We should.

But, as to the reasons. I don't profess to know what ALL of them are...

ONE thing that is different, and which matters, is time has passed. Back then it was new. A string of poor results was "teething troubles", or "to be expected now and then". Now, there's history. There's two immediately preceeding seasons where we have finished DFL and runner up for the wooden spoon. 

So what? Well that history (good and bad) is what people soak up into the collective consciousness. Now the Phoenix are carrying the weight of being an under-performing club. We haven't won. We haven't made a grand final. And we have won a wooden spoon.

The casual fans absorb that. It is a factor (and I am only claiming to be _A_, one amongst many, not THE factor) in their decision as to whether or not to go to games. It contributes heavily I think. People think "Ahhh, nah, they never win, they're useless, why would I go?"

So, being exposed to people who are passionate about the club is important.

Fever Friday is more important now than ever before.

We have to win back the people who might or might not attend. Because right at the moment most of them are not going to attend.

Legend
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C-Diddy wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

There are times when it's ok to be a wanker. This is not one of them

Frankie Mac is free to express his opinions on here as much as anyone else. By all means disagree with him but please dont resort to petty name calling.

Petty name calling is a draw card for this forum.

Chant Savant
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Junior82 wrote:

C-Diddy wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

There are times when it's ok to be a wanker. This is not one of them

Frankie Mac is free to express his opinions on here as much as anyone else. By all means disagree with him but please dont resort to petty name calling.

Petty name calling is a draw card for this forum.

Shut it twunt!

Legend
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Up yours, knob end!

Marquee
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So anyway, back to what this thread is actually about...

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also contrary to popular belief, crowds have remained steady. Aside from a drop after season one as the novelty factor wore off. 

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bwtcf wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

bottom line is that I think it is a bit odd, but ultimately it has fuck all to do with me.  If you guys are happy doing it, go nuts.  Paint yourself yellow, take a frog on a leash, french kiss anyone who takes the ticket - do what you want.  I hope it works out for you and extra fans start supporting the club and attending on a regular basis.

The one comment on this thread that I do find a bit odd is Patricks - aside from the club being new and the noveltly factor, what has really changed from 2007? People then spoke of the team doing well and the atmosphere being unique as factors in increasing the crowd, and I think that they are still relevant now.  I'd be interested in the variety of reasons for everything being so different.

Good post mate.

No one is saying NOTHING has changed. I think everyone agrees with the part I have bolded. It's not either/or, it is AND. So those things are still true. And no one is saying they are not. And no one is saying we shouldn't do that. We should.

But, as to the reasons. I don't profess to know what ALL of them are...

ONE thing that is different, and which matters, is time has passed. Back then it was new. A string of poor results was "teething troubles", or "to be expected now and then". Now, there's history. There's two immediately preceeding seasons where we have finished DFL and runner up for the wooden spoon. 

So what? Well that history (good and bad) is what people soak up into the collective consciousness. Now the Phoenix are carrying the weight of being an under-performing club. We haven't won. We haven't made a grand final. And we have won a wooden spoon.

The casual fans absorb that. It is a factor (and I am only claiming to be _A_, one amongst many, not THE factor) in their decision as to whether or not to go to games. It contributes heavily I think. People think "Ahhh, nah, they never win, they're useless, why would I go?"

So, being exposed to people who are passionate about the club is important.

Fever Friday is more important now than ever before.

We have to win back the people who might or might not attend. Because right at the moment most of them are not going to attend.

Yup, the general public see the team as one that loses all the time. I get sarcastic remarks about how bad they are all the time at work, even from people who go occasionally. Just yesterday I pointed out that we actually won last week when I woman I work with who goes to games with her husband and kids a few times a year said "I see the Phoenix are on a losing streak again" to me. After we lost the first game and I was talking about it at work people were saying stuff like "what do you expect?" and " shouldn't you be used to that by now?".

Will take a sustained string of good results AND some positive media about the club for a change to dent that kind of attitude I think.

Marquee
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Tegal wrote:

also contrary to popular belief, crowds have remained steady. Aside from a drop after season one as the novelty factor wore off. 

Life and death
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Frankie Mac - Booooooooo

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bwtcf wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

bottom line is that I think it is a bit odd, but ultimately it has fuck all to do with me.  If you guys are happy doing it, go nuts.  Paint yourself yellow, take a frog on a leash, french kiss anyone who takes the ticket - do what you want.  I hope it works out for you and extra fans start supporting the club and attending on a regular basis.

The one comment on this thread that I do find a bit odd is Patricks - aside from the club being new and the noveltly factor, what has really changed from 2007? People then spoke of the team doing well and the atmosphere being unique as factors in increasing the crowd, and I think that they are still relevant now.  I'd be interested in the variety of reasons for everything being so different.

Good post mate.

No one is saying NOTHING has changed. I think everyone agrees with the part I have bolded. It's not either/or, it is AND. So those things are still true. And no one is saying they are not. And no one is saying we shouldn't do that. We should.

But, as to the reasons. I don't profess to know what ALL of them are...

ONE thing that is different, and which matters, is time has passed. Back then it was new. A string of poor results was "teething troubles", or "to be expected now and then". Now, there's history. There's two immediately preceeding seasons where we have finished DFL and runner up for the wooden spoon. 

So what? Well that history (good and bad) is what people soak up into the collective consciousness. Now the Phoenix are carrying the weight of being an under-performing club. We haven't won. We haven't made a grand final. And we have won a wooden spoon.

The casual fans absorb that. It is a factor (and I am only claiming to be _A_, one amongst many, not THE factor) in their decision as to whether or not to go to games. It contributes heavily I think. People think "Ahhh, nah, they never win, they're useless, why would I go?"

So, being exposed to people who are passionate about the club is important.

Fever Friday is more important now than ever before.

We have to win back the people who might or might not attend. Because right at the moment most of them are not going to attend.

Yup, the general public see the team as one that loses all the time. I get sarcastic remarks about how bad they are all the time at work, even from people who go occasionally. Just yesterday I pointed out that we actually won last week when I woman I work with who goes to games with her husband and kids a few times a year said "I see the Phoenix are on a losing streak again" to me. After we lost the first game and I was talking about it at work people were saying stuff like "what do you expect?" and " shouldn't you be used to that by now?".

Will take a sustained string of good results AND some positive media about the club for a change to dent that kind of attitude I think.

Might be worthwhile pointing out the amazing string of results the Lions have had this season if they are rugby fans.  I've found when saying this at work the rugby heads tend to go quite quiet

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Frankie Mac wrote:

If the 1 out of 30 ratio continues, that will be 870 people weirded out by you all.

I call that a slow tuesday. If these chaps are upping the crowds out of their own pocket, more power to them! I will join in the charity for the next home game.

Chant Savant
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Good Luck today guys. Looking forward to hearing whether you achieved a 100% attendance strike rate with the gifted tickets.

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I don't think many people at all would be "weirded out", and the very few that may be aren't worth worrying about.

Carry on Brandon

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I remember a flat mate of mine used to buy 100 roses every valentines day and hand them it to women on queen street. No doubt he made some girls day but he never seemed to pick up anyone. 

LG
Legend
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That would have been expensive, maybe he did score but never let on?

Brandon, do you know if your fan showed up to the game? That result could not have hurt their chances of returning surely?

Legend
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I remember a flat mate of mine used to buy 100 roses every valentines day and hand them it to women on queen street. No doubt he made some girls day but he never seemed to pick up anyone. 

I think a different principle applies here. People who go to Phoenix games don't want to be the only one.

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bwtcf wrote:

I think that's 30 people who might talk to their work mates about how there's a Phoenix game on this Sunday.

I'll take the weirdo factor risk if it gets people talking about the Phoenix.

Being invisible isn't working, so let's get them talking I say!

For Frankie Mac, both sides of his bed are the wrong ones ...

Marquee
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I remember a flat mate of mine used to buy 100 roses every valentines day and hand them it to women on queen street. No doubt he made some girls day but he never seemed to pick up anyone. 

Martin Amis has confessed to standing on Kings Rd (some years ago) with a mate handing out their phone numbers to every youngish woman who passed in the hope that sooner or later they'd get lucky. I think the mate did better than Amis.

Marquee
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Bevan wrote:

bwtcf wrote:

I think that's 30 people who might talk to their work mates about how there's a Phoenix game on this Sunday.

I'll take the weirdo factor risk if it gets people talking about the Phoenix.

Being invisible isn't working, so let's get them talking I say!

For Frankie Mac, both sides of his bed are the wrong ones ...

Is this still about when I pushed the singles together in SA?

Marquee
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I am thinking about doing this on the Thursday (6th November) before the WCW game so that the recipient can plan their Friday night properly.

Starting XI
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I'll also have a spare ticket as my partner is going to be up in Auckland so will try and get someone from my own team who may occasionally go and try and encourage them to go more.

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Marquee
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Everyone...

What are YOU doing to increase the crowd at the WCW game 7.30pm Friday November 7th?

Imagine if EACH one of us on the forums got 2 people to attend who were not going to attend otherwise...

Do the people you work with know that the Phoenix are playing on Friday 7th November at 7.30pm?

We have a blackboard at work in the kitchen area...

Just next to it someone has put up a Phoenix season schedule poster:

I am wearing a Phoenix scarf at work every day this season. People stop and talk about it with me. This week there has been a significant shift in the conversation starters... 

Last week it was all about the crowd numbers crisis and the impending doom of the license renewal failure (Thanks Michael Cockerill!)

This week it has all been about the great result on Sunday. 

Baby steps people. Baby steps.

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I have the season schedule up at work by my desk which looks out over a corridor.  Have had a few people stop and chat to me about the games (never crowds, always results)

I use to carry my Nix scarf everyday or the last 2 seasons, so will start doing that again.  Can only help

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I really want a Nix schedule poster...

Budgie lover
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I shall pin up a scarf in my pod.

Marquee
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Every little bit helps. The more people talk about the Nix, the more likely people are to go to the games.

Legend
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If it's a bit parky I always wear my scarf and beanie to/from work.

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Dino11 wrote:

I really want a Nix schedule poster...

I happen to have a spare.

Someone at work put one on my desk for me (I had already got one). Let me know if you want this one :)

Edit: It's the one BWTCF put up above.

3rd XI
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This should be named Brandon's random act of shouting chefmivec to the game vs victory on Monday . Included flights

Marquee
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chefmivec wrote:

This should be named Brandon's random act of shouting chefmivec to the game vs victory on Monday . Included flights

Already asked if he was paying for me! #FeverSpendUp

Legend
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I liked your post above Brandon because you write 7 like a proper person should.

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Buffon II wrote:

I liked your post above Brandon because you write 7 like a proper person should.

ooh I do my 7's like that too
One in a million
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We want proper sevens!

Life and death
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Sorry did I miss the answer somewhere? Did the recipients of the free tickets turn up to the game?

LG
Legend
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7's? Plenty of tickets available!!..........

Sevens ticket prices slashed   

Last updated 05:00 31/10/2014

 

 

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Ticket prices for next year's Wellington Sevens have been slashed as organisers seek to boost flagging interest in the event. 

    With just 13,000 tickets sold so far, the cost of general entry tickets will be cut from $199 to $149, while those in the premium zone will drop from $235 to $195. 

    New general manager Steve Dunbar, 10 days into the job, said tickets sales had been slow since their release last month and fans had told organisers that prices were part of the reason. 

    "It's fair to say that ticket sales . . . haven't been as good as we've hoped," he said. "I think the fans have spoken." 

    Prices had already been reduced by $10 after this year's tournament saw the worst ticket sales since the event began. 

    Dunbar has replaced former boss Marty Donoghue, who resigned earlier this year after just one tournament in charge. 

    He said that, on top of reduced prices, there would also be more promotion of the event, including trying to drum up student interest by offering the chance to those who bought four or more tickets to have $3000 paid towards their university fees. 

    Organisers would be contacting people who had already bought tickets to arrange a partial refund, based on the difference between what they paid and the new prices. 

    Dunbar, whose sports management experience has included working on the Rugby World Cup in 2011 and previously as tournament director and chief executive of NZ International Sevens, said he was reviewing other aspects of the tournament, including the entertainment. 

    The event had to be a good mix between action on the field and entertainment off it. 

    "I think to date Wellington has done that particularly well. If you look at some of the other tournaments in the series, it is still the shining light . . . and I'll just come in and have a look at that, and see if there are any enhancements that can be made." 

- The Dominion Post

Marquee
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Sorry did I miss the answer somewhere? Did the recipients of the free tickets turn up to the game?

Mine did.

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I happen to have a spare.

Someone at work put one on my desk for me (I had already got one). Let me know if you want this one :)

Edit: It's the one BWTCF put up above.

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Much appreciated, I sent the Nix's an email asking if they could send me one.. Im an out of towner

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