I was at the game, and the behaviour was disgraceful from Parklands. There were 2 players sent off ( both received 2 yellows), for dissent mostly. The abuse towards the officials was disgusting at the least , and supporters didnt help either. This has been an on going issue in the senior squad, and even though players get frustrated when calls don't go there way, I feel that the officials and often used as scape goats for the players mistakes. No one deserves to be spoken to, the way those officials did yesterday, regardless of whether the desisions were right of wrong. Sad day yesterday, hope mainland look into it.
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The first sending off was not for dissent, it was for clipping the other players heels. The second was for dissent. Ultimately a lot of it did stem from frustration from inconsistency of decisions. I'm definitely not condoning the actions of the players involved, and we all know that the officials are regularly in a difficult situation.
I was not near the spectators so don't know what was said, which again if there was bad and foul language then that is not acceptable either, however, one of the referees assistants are not innocent in this situation either and was abusing both players and fans verbally too. This is not acceptable either and also needs looking at if other aspects are being looked at.
Officials are there to control the game and keep the games flowing. Unfortunately this season it has been seen on too many occasions that this is not always the case. We could probably count on one hand how many games we've had refs that you effectively didn't notice because they had control of the game the way it should be.
Having heard that certain players in certain teams are being targeted by refs based on reputation (I've heard this direct from at least 2 refs and applies to a few teams) this does not help matters. A game should be reffed upon what is happening on the day in relation to the letter of the law, not what has preceded it.
Kinda glad this season can be put to bed now.
Well done again to Selwyn on their success this year and all the best in the MPL. Let's home 2018 sees a big improvement from clubs and officials alike and we get to talk about the action on the pitch rather than anything else
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The first sending off was not for dissent, it was for clipping the other players heels. The second was for dissent. Ultimately a lot of it did stem from frustration from inconsistency of decisions. I'm definitely not condoning the actions of the players involved, and we all know that the officials are regularly in a difficult situation.
I was not near the spectators so don't know what was said, which again if there was bad and foul language then that is not acceptable either, however, one of the referees assistants are not innocent in this situation either and was abusing both players and fans verbally too. This is not acceptable either and also needs looking at if other aspects are being looked at.
Officials are there to control the game and keep the games flowing. Unfortunately this season it has been seen on too many occasions that this is not always the case. We could probably count on one hand how many games we've had refs that you effectively didn't notice because they had control of the game the way it should be.
Having heard that certain players in certain teams are being targeted by refs based on reputation (I've heard this direct from at least 2 refs and applies to a few teams) this does not help matters. A game should be reffed upon what is happening on the day in relation to the letter of the law, not what has preceded it.
Kinda glad this season can be put to bed now.
Well done again to Selwyn on their success this year and all the best in the MPL. Let's home 2018 sees a big improvement from clubs and officials alike and we get to talk about the action on the pitch rather than anything else
Cheers for clarifying. No truth that opposition coach had to twice step in to stop situations that could have seen officials assaulted by spectators and players? We struggle for refs as it is so I really hope this is second hand blown out of proportion and not correct
The first sending off was not for dissent, it was for clipping the other players heels. The second was for dissent. Ultimately a lot of it did stem from frustration from inconsistency of decisions. I'm definitely not condoning the actions of the players involved, and we all know that the officials are regularly in a difficult situation.
I was not near the spectators so don't know what was said, which again if there was bad and foul language then that is not acceptable either, however, one of the referees assistants are not innocent in this situation either and was abusing both players and fans verbally too. This is not acceptable either and also needs looking at if other aspects are being looked at.
Officials are there to control the game and keep the games flowing. Unfortunately this season it has been seen on too many occasions that this is not always the case. We could probably count on one hand how many games we've had refs that you effectively didn't notice because they had control of the game the way it should be.
Having heard that certain players in certain teams are being targeted by refs based on reputation (I've heard this direct from at least 2 refs and applies to a few teams) this does not help matters. A game should be reffed upon what is happening on the day in relation to the letter of the law, not what has preceded it.
Kinda glad this season can be put to bed now.
Well done again to Selwyn on their success this year and all the best in the MPL. Let's home 2018 sees a big improvement from clubs and officials alike and we get to talk about the action on the pitch rather than anything else
Cheers for clarifying. No truth that opposition coach had to twice step in to stop situations that could have seen officials assaulted by spectators and players? We struggle for refs as it is so I really hope this is second hand blown out of proportion and not correct
There wasn't anything during the game itself in regards to that, if something happened after the game I'm unsure as I was the other side of the pitch packing the rope etc down.
I do know there was some gatherings and have heard rumours of some stuff that may have gone on, but not being there 1st hand I'm not going to speculate
The first sending off might not have been for dissent, but if you had heard what the player sent off had said to the linesman as he was walking off, he would have been sent off for that alone.
As far as what happened after the match there were some heated conversations between officials and spectators, with a player having to be held back, not sure why officials didn't walk off. I've seen to much of this sort of thing after games this season, it has to stop
If what I've heard is correct then I'm not surprised the player had to be held back and if certain players are to be held responsible then so do the offici
Yes, your probably right, I assume the official did say something's, when I should have kept his mouth closed, but what happened with the player behaviour is to common these days, officials winding up spectators, players is rear
Certainly, there's banter, there's stupidity and there's taking things too far.
As we know, no player plying their trade in Chch is perfect, everyone makes mistakes, but I do think the standard of refereeing across the board needs to be looked at.
Some of the better ones I've seen recently are ones that either play the game or have played the game recently as they understand what goes on in the modern game
Updated table:
The reason table only showing ChCh United on 9 wins (as same as last week) after winning today is the following which has only appeared on the Mainland Website in the past 24 hours
** Christchurch United fielded an ineligible player on 15th July. Game is a forfeit and result is a 3-0 loss to Christchurch United
This game was against Parklands with the orginial result 2 - 1 to the Rams, the second time this season they fielded an ineligible player.
| Team | P | W | D | L | F | A | GD | Pts |
| Selwyn United | 20 | 15 | 4 | 1 | 68 | 31 | 37 | 49 |
| Halswell United | 19 | 10 | 3 | 6 | 41 | 38 | 3 | 33 |
| Christchurch United | 20 | 9 | 5 | 6 | 33 | 25 | 8 | 32 |
| Waimak United | 19 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 30 | 34 | -4 | 24 |
| Parklands | 19 | 5 | 4 | 10 | 24 | 37 | -13 | 19 |
| Burwood | 19 | 0 | 4 | 15 | 25 | 56 | -31 | 4 |
maybe next year rather than throwing big money at average players they could invest in a good admin person. Rammed again.
They weren't paid to play but coach and some admin work.
Good thing they weren't paid to play 'cos clearly there was an issue there. Regarding the admin, I hope none of them were responsible for the 2 unregistered player incidents that cost them points. All in all a bit of bit of a disappointing year for the once mighty Rams, wonder what the future holds for them now?
The game against Parkland's wasn't due to an unregistered player, it was down to fielding a player who should have been suspended (amazingly he then got sent off in this game too!)
Certainly, there's banter, there's stupidity and there's taking things too far.
As we know, no player plying their trade in Chch is perfect, everyone makes mistakes, but I do think the standard of refereeing across the board needs to be looked at.
Some of the better ones I've seen recently are ones that either play the game or have played the game recently as they understand what goes on in the modern game
Long time listener first time caller... been loving the banter on this page all season so time to join in...
BW, I always chuckle when someone says "the standard of refereeing across the board needs to be looked at", when talking about CCL. Realistically the standard of refereeing in the CCL is the same as the standard of football: sometimes good, sometimes bad, usually pretty average. More referees = higher standard just as more player depth = higher standard.
Totally agree with your second point, if only more former players would give something back to the game rather than giving it away or heading off to pasture in the masters grades.
Certainly, there's banter, there's stupidity and there's taking things too far.
As we know, no player plying their trade in Chch is perfect, everyone makes mistakes, but I do think the standard of refereeing across the board needs to be looked at.
Some of the better ones I've seen recently are ones that either play the game or have played the game recently as they understand what goes on in the modern game
Best referee we ever had for a Selwyn game was one a few years ago. Top of the tablet game against FC 2011 and we got a pants-down hiding. However, the referee was outstanding! 6 foot 5 guy from Otago area (via UK) who said to the teams before the game that you could swear and show frustration with no issues, but as soon as you deliberately put in a bad tackle then you were in trouble. He even gave examples of the swear words that could be used.
Then struck him again in a pre-season game in Dunedin this year. Top guy who was just a real person and understood real situations on the pitch. The players had nothing but respect for him and still talk about him to this day!
Being a former player I think helps as you understand the realities of what can happen in a game.
Certainly, there's banter, there's stupidity and there's taking things too far.
As we know, no player plying their trade in Chch is perfect, everyone makes mistakes, but I do think the standard of refereeing across the board needs to be looked at.
Some of the better ones I've seen recently are ones that either play the game or have played the game recently as they understand what goes on in the modern game
Best referee we ever had for a Selwyn game was one a few years ago. Top of the tablet game against FC 2011 and we got a pants-down hiding. However, the referee was outstanding! 6 foot 5 guy from Otago area (via UK) who said to the teams before the game that you could swear and show frustration with no issues, but as soon as you deliberately put in a bad tackle then you were in trouble. He even gave examples of the swear words that could be used.
Then struck him again in a pre-season game in Dunedin this year. Top guy who was just a real person and understood real situations on the pitch. The players had nothing but respect for him and still talk about him to this day!
Being a former player I think helps as you understand the realities of what can happen in a game.
Completely agree guys. Most of the referees in ccl seem to be on the older side of the ledger, i'm not sure if this has much to do with it or not but they appear to me to lack control and consistency in decision making. Problem being we don't appear to have ex players going into the refereeing game, perhaps they know the crap they will cop and cant be bothered. Look at rugby, very rarely to you see players arguing a point or giving a mouthfull like we see in football. What are rugby doing right that we are not?
Certainly, there's banter, there's stupidity and there's taking things too far.
As we know, no player plying their trade in Chch is perfect, everyone makes mistakes, but I do think the standard of refereeing across the board needs to be looked at.
Some of the better ones I've seen recently are ones that either play the game or have played the game recently as they understand what goes on in the modern game
Best referee we ever had for a Selwyn game was one a few years ago. Top of the tablet game against FC 2011 and we got a pants-down hiding. However, the referee was outstanding! 6 foot 5 guy from Otago area (via UK) who said to the teams before the game that you could swear and show frustration with no issues, but as soon as you deliberately put in a bad tackle then you were in trouble. He even gave examples of the swear words that could be used.
Then struck him again in a pre-season game in Dunedin this year. Top guy who was just a real person and understood real situations on the pitch. The players had nothing but respect for him and still talk about him to this day!
Being a former player I think helps as you understand the realities of what can happen in a game.
Helped that he was a giant and no one was going to argue with him :) (Dodged a yellow)
Certainly, there's banter, there's stupidity and there's taking things too far.
As we know, no player plying their trade in Chch is perfect, everyone makes mistakes, but I do think the standard of refereeing across the board needs to be looked at.
Some of the better ones I've seen recently are ones that either play the game or have played the game recently as they understand what goes on in the modern game
Best referee we ever had for a Selwyn game was one a few years ago. Top of the tablet game against FC 2011 and we got a pants-down hiding. However, the referee was outstanding! 6 foot 5 guy from Otago area (via UK) who said to the teams before the game that you could swear and show frustration with no issues, but as soon as you deliberately put in a bad tackle then you were in trouble. He even gave examples of the swear words that could be used.
Then struck him again in a pre-season game in Dunedin this year. Top guy who was just a real person and understood real situations on the pitch. The players had nothing but respect for him and still talk about him to this day!
Being a former player I think helps as you understand the realities of what can happen in a game.
Completely agree guys. Most of the referees in ccl seem to be on the older side of the ledger, i'm not sure if this has much to do with it or not but they appear to me to lack control and consistency in decision making. Problem being we don't appear to have ex players going into the refereeing game, perhaps they know the crap they will cop and cant be bothered. Look at rugby, very rarely to you see players arguing a point or giving a mouthfull like we see in football. What are rugby doing right that we are not?
The last part about rugby is one I'd like to see. You argue or touch the ref - you get marched/carded etc. Football kind of getting there - but too slow and needs to be done from the top down. You see professionals running up and crowding the ref - then everyone does it. See it in Rugby? Nope.
Certainly, there's banter, there's stupidity and there's taking things too far.
As we know, no player plying their trade in Chch is perfect, everyone makes mistakes, but I do think the standard of refereeing across the board needs to be looked at.
Some of the better ones I've seen recently are ones that either play the game or have played the game recently as they understand what goes on in the modern game
Best referee we ever had for a Selwyn game was one a few years ago. Top of the tablet game against FC 2011 and we got a pants-down hiding. However, the referee was outstanding! 6 foot 5 guy from Otago area (via UK) who said to the teams before the game that you could swear and show frustration with no issues, but as soon as you deliberately put in a bad tackle then you were in trouble. He even gave examples of the swear words that could be used.
Then struck him again in a pre-season game in Dunedin this year. Top guy who was just a real person and understood real situations on the pitch. The players had nothing but respect for him and still talk about him to this day!
Being a former player I think helps as you understand the realities of what can happen in a game.
Completely agree guys. Most of the referees in ccl seem to be on the older side of the ledger, i'm not sure if this has much to do with it or not but they appear to me to lack control and consistency in decision making. Problem being we don't appear to have ex players going into the refereeing game, perhaps they know the crap they will cop and cant be bothered. Look at rugby, very rarely to you see players arguing a point or giving a mouthfull like we see in football. What are rugby doing right that we are not?
From the Nelson Mail: FC Nelson Looking at Promotion?:
No thanks. Nelson have one team, don't need any more.
No thanks. Nelson have one team, don't need any more.
If they, or any other team from north of Mainland Fed, are good enough then they will make it.
No thanks. Nelson have one team, don't need any more.
Got as much right to be there as any Christchurch team. Would be great for Nelson football
No thanks. Nelson have one team, don't need any more.
Got as much right to be there as any Christchurch team. Would be great for Nelson football
Have they though? And I also question AW82 if they are good enough they will make it comment too.
All they have to do is win the Nelson league (which with a smaller population, and the best players already in the Suburbs team) so effectively this is an easier competition. Then they have to win a home and away game against the winner of the Qualifying League, which can be very hit and miss. Do that, and they're in.
Nelson have representation in the league with Suburbs, and we all know the disaster that happened with Richmond last time. With a Southern League on the cards, do we really want more trips to Nelson to play a lesser team. It's bad enough having to travel to Rolleston next year! God forbid getting Waimak in the Premier League huh? Sure, there will be entertainment, but at what cost?
No thanks. Nelson have one team, don't need any more.
Got as much right to be there as any Christchurch team. Would be great for Nelson football
Have they though? And I also question AW82 if they are good enough they will make it comment too.
All they have to do is win the Nelson league (which with a smaller population, and the best players already in the Suburbs team) so effectively this is an easier competition. Then they have to win a home and away game against the winner of the Qualifying League, which can be very hit and miss. Do that, and they're in.
Nelson have representation in the league with Suburbs, and we all know the disaster that happened with Richmond last time. With a Southern League on the cards, do we really want more trips to Nelson to play a lesser team. It's bad enough having to travel to Rolleston next year! God forbid getting Waimak in the Premier League huh? Sure, there will be entertainment, but at what cost?
Vim's MPL-on-sea (well almost) that doesn't cross the Waimak:
Coastal
Bays
Tech (but not the Cashmere end)
Burwod
Parklands
St Albans Shirley
Western
Nomads
That away trip to Tullet though.
Keep dreaming fella
No thanks. Nelson have one team, don't need any more.
Got as much right to be there as any Christchurch team. Would be great for Nelson football
Have they though? And I also question AW82 if they are good enough they will make it comment too.
All they have to do is win the Nelson league (which with a smaller population, and the best players already in the Suburbs team) so effectively this is an easier competition. Then they have to win a home and away game against the winner of the Qualifying League, which can be very hit and miss. Do that, and they're in.
Nelson have representation in the league with Suburbs, and we all know the disaster that happened with Richmond last time. With a Southern League on the cards, do we really want more trips to Nelson to play a lesser team. It's bad enough having to travel to Rolleston next year! God forbid getting Waimak in the Premier League huh? Sure, there will be entertainment, but at what cost?
Yes, of course they do. They pay fees to Mainland football same as every Christchurch club. I agree though, I don't think that either Richmond or FC Nelson are good enough to push for promotion at this point. I think we will see improvement in the local league over the next few years as Tasman United gets more established though, through extra coaching and NYL opportunities etc.
If they beat the qualifying team from Chch then they've earned the spot. They wouldn't be a "lesser" team as you imply, they'd be there on merit.
Having the president funding the club get arrested for fraud is a one off event, so not sure why you think the Richmond disaster would happen again. Especially since we were more than competitive before the shark went down, which shows if the moneys there then the performances will be as well. Although I say this as someone who played for Richmond for 12 years so I'm biased.
The travel is a secondary issue for mine, the best teams should be in the league and if a Nelson club earns that right then that bridge gets crossed.
If you look to the Central League it shows how another out of town (Nelson) based team to enter the league could effect the league. Last year Team Taranaki cleaned up their Federation League, A lot weaker than Cap Prem. They luckily beat Waterside on away goals to be promoted to Central League even though they were clearly not the better team. Getting promoted allowed them to bring in players and managed to pinch a few players from Palmerston North Marist, who ended up going down this year. The same could happen with FC Nelson, not strong enough to be competitive but strong enough to get promoted and possibly take some players away from the suburbs player pool. However I do think that with the South Island league up and coming there shouldn't be another Nelson team playing in a Christchurch league, bad timing for FC Nelson.
If you look to the Central League it shows how another out of town (Nelson) based team to enter the league could effect the league. Last year Team Taranaki cleaned up their Federation League, A lot weaker than Cap Prem. They luckily beat Waterside on away goals to be promoted to Central League even though they were clearly not the better team. Getting promoted allowed them to bring in players and managed to pinch a few players from Palmerston North Marist, who ended up going down this year. The same could happen with FC Nelson, not strong enough to be competitive but strong enough to get promoted and possibly take some players away from the suburbs player pool. However I do think that with the South Island league up and coming there shouldn't be another Nelson team playing in a Christchurch league, bad timing for FC Nelson.
Its not a Christchurch league, its a Mainland football league. An area which Nelson Bays Football is a part of.
The South Island League is a cat among the pigeons for sure though.
No thanks. Nelson have one team, don't need any more.
Got as much right to be there as any Christchurch team. Would be great for Nelson football
Have they though? And I also question AW82 if they are good enough they will make it comment too.
All they have to do is win the Nelson league (which with a smaller population, and the best players already in the Suburbs team) so effectively this is an easier competition. Then they have to win a home and away game against the winner of the Qualifying League, which can be very hit and miss. Do that, and they're in.
Nelson have representation in the league with Suburbs, and we all know the disaster that happened with Richmond last time. With a Southern League on the cards, do we really want more trips to Nelson to play a lesser team. It's bad enough having to travel to Rolleston next year! God forbid getting Waimak in the Premier League huh? Sure, there will be entertainment, but at what cost?
If any teams win what ever the play-offs system then they are 'good enough', different question once they qualify for the Mainland Premier League.
Surely any club playing in any of the qualifying leagues will be aiming (or have ambition) to play in the MPL other wise players will transfer to club that want to play in the highest club possible.
Nelson have turned out plenty of good players over the years, sadly alot of the talent is lost to the region once players have to head out of town for study / attend university.
Yeah I agree with any team in mainland region being able to play in the mainland premier league. I was more referring to what has been floating round regarding the south island league with one round of the mainland premier league being played then moving into a south island league. Say FC Nelson were in the MPL but were bottom after round one would they fall into the same league as the other Christchurch teams of revert back to the local league. This is seeing a lot into the future with a lot of if's and but's. I guess its one step (or season) at time and it will pan out.
No thanks. Nelson have one team, don't need any more.
Got as much right to be there as any Christchurch team. Would be great for Nelson football
Have they though? And I also question AW82 if they are good enough they will make it comment too.
All they have to do is win the Nelson league (which with a smaller population, and the best players already in the Suburbs team) so effectively this is an easier competition. Then they have to win a home and away game against the winner of the Qualifying League, which can be very hit and miss. Do that, and they're in.
Nelson have representation in the league with Suburbs, and we all know the disaster that happened with Richmond last time. With a Southern League on the cards, do we really want more trips to Nelson to play a lesser team. It's bad enough having to travel to Rolleston next year! God forbid getting Waimak in the Premier League huh? Sure, there will be entertainment, but at what cost?
yeah and Christchurch has enough representation with every other team!
They can only qualify if they are good enough, and if they aren't then they will get relegated.
I think FC Nelson getting promoted would weaken Nelson Suburbs slightly, but if they took even just two or three players across they would be significantly better, plus they could also draw on some of the best currently at Richmond and Nelson College, which I think would be enough to make them competitive.
No thanks. Nelson have one team, don't need any more.
Got as much right to be there as any Christchurch team. Would be great for Nelson football
Have they though? And I also question AW82 if they are good enough they will make it comment too.
All they have to do is win the Nelson league (which with a smaller population, and the best players already in the Suburbs team) so effectively this is an easier competition. Then they have to win a home and away game against the winner of the Qualifying League, which can be very hit and miss. Do that, and they're in.
Nelson have representation in the league with Suburbs, and we all know the disaster that happened with Richmond last time. With a Southern League on the cards, do we really want more trips to Nelson to play a lesser team. It's bad enough having to travel to Rolleston next year! God forbid getting Waimak in the Premier League huh? Sure, there will be entertainment, but at what cost?
yeah and Christchurch has enough representation with every other team!
They can only qualify if they are good enough, and if they aren't then they will get relegated.
I think FC Nelson getting promoted would weaken Nelson Suburbs slightly, but if they took even just two or three players across they would be significantly better, plus they could also draw on some of the best currently at Richmond and Nelson College, which I think would be enough to make them competitive.
Christchurch has 7 teams for their population of 375,000. That's one team per 53,000 people.
Nelson has 1 team for their population of 46,000. Add a second team and that will really distort the figures won't it?
People used to bang on about how an increase of the MPL to 10 teams would weaken the level across the board, and it appears the same would happen in Nelson.
I think we're good as we are.
Well Nelson-Tasman, which is super confusing that it's two districts, is 93,000 together. Suburbs are really Stoke and close to Richmond where FC Nelson is in the heart of the city. Plus keep in mind that if anyone from Blenheim, like Omar Guardiola, was good enough to play MPL they head to Nelson too.
No thanks. Nelson have one team, don't need any more.
Got as much right to be there as any Christchurch team. Would be great for Nelson football
Have they though? And I also question AW82 if they are good enough they will make it comment too.
All they have to do is win the Nelson league (which with a smaller population, and the best players already in the Suburbs team) so effectively this is an easier competition. Then they have to win a home and away game against the winner of the Qualifying League, which can be very hit and miss. Do that, and they're in.
Nelson have representation in the league with Suburbs, and we all know the disaster that happened with Richmond last time. With a Southern League on the cards, do we really want more trips to Nelson to play a lesser team. It's bad enough having to travel to Rolleston next year! God forbid getting Waimak in the Premier League huh? Sure, there will be entertainment, but at what cost?
yeah and Christchurch has enough representation with every other team!
They can only qualify if they are good enough, and if they aren't then they will get relegated.
I think FC Nelson getting promoted would weaken Nelson Suburbs slightly, but if they took even just two or three players across they would be significantly better, plus they could also draw on some of the best currently at Richmond and Nelson College, which I think would be enough to make them competitive.
Christchurch has 7 teams for their population of 375,000. That's one team per 53,000 people.
Nelson has 1 team for their population of 46,000. Add a second team and that will really distort the figures won't it?
People used to bang on about how an increase of the MPL to 10 teams would weaken the level across the board, and it appears the same would happen in Nelson.
I think we're good as we are.
Population doesn't mean shark if the teams are actually good enough to be there. Nelson has a National League team, top class academies in the region and High School teams among the best in the country. A second team can be supported.
If they're good enough, they deserve to be there. Its that simple.
To be honest I think Nelson College, being the best SI school and third in NZ, could foot it in the MPL. Not that it'd happen or should happen, all I'm saying is the talent is there. FC Nelson need to work a way to get College on board and a combination of the two, plus a few that'd jump ship from Suburbs, would earn promotion if they were ambitious enough. It's just a question of is Tasman United better off with two MPL teams out of Nelson or just one?
Nelson College's starting XI could basically be Tasman's NYL side, plus their captain David Maisey played a few games for Tasman at SS Prem level last year. Throw in ex MPL guys at FC like Tom Marston, Sean Parkes, Marcello Riley, and another Tasman player in Labu Pan, and already it's solid enough.
I think you'll find that population has a bit to do with it. Not many Premier League teams rolling in from Punakiki or Ross right?
I think you'll find that population has a bit to do with it. Not many Premier League teams rolling in from Punakiki or Ross right?
Definitely, population has a little to do with it. However, you shanked your calculations by ignoring half of the Nelson region as well as Marlborough.
If you include Golden Bay, Tasman, Nelson and Marlborough, which are all in the Mainland Football region, then your population gets close to 150,000 (47k in Tasman, 45 in Nelson and 45 in Marlborough). Maybe the region should have 3 teams!
If there's enough to support one National League team, there's more than enough for 2 Mainland League teams. Population is but one factor to consider, not the be all and end all as you're implying.
I'd argue the quality of football has a far larger bearing on whether a team is sustainable than population numbers does.
I think you'll find that population has a bit to do with it. Not many Premier League teams rolling in from Punakiki or Ross right?
Definitely, population has a little to do with it. However, you shanked your calculations by ignoring half of the Nelson region as well as Marlborough.
If you include Golden Bay, Tasman, Nelson and Marlborough, which are all in the Mainland Football region, then your population gets close to 150,000 (47k in Tasman, 45 in Nelson and 45 in Marlborough). Maybe the region should have 3 teams!
If there's enough to support one National League team, there's more than enough for 2 Mainland League teams. Population is but one factor to consider, not the be all and end all as you're implying.
I'd argue the quality of football has a far larger bearing on whether a team is sustainable than population numbers does.
Point taken about outlying areas, I did just look at Nelson's population.
Never said population was the be all and end all, however it does play a big part.
The national league link is pretty weak considering you're one year old with plenty of players from outside the region and are currently one player over the import limit..
yeah and three of those imports play in the MPL, including Ryan Stewart and Lyle Matthysen who can get citizenship.
Understand that Western are in the process of securing a new coach for 2018, if the name I hear is correct will raise a few eyebrows.
I've heard similar.
Understand that Western are in the process of securing a new coach for 2018, if the name I hear is correct will raise a few eyebrows.
It's close enough to O'Sheas.