The whole Crux of the Matter is people from all sides by the sounds of it being absolute dickheads at an under 11 match. All involved should be ashamed
Fight! Fight! Fight!
Just get the full story from the geezer when you get your fries from the clubrooms cafe
Ah. I get it. You're nuts.
The Crimes Amendment Act (No 3)
I thought to ignore child abuse was now illegal?
The boundaries have yet to be determined. Where will the perimeter be set?
Aren’t the parents totally obliged to condemn the abuse by law or face 10 yrs in prison?
Maybe this should be used as a case in setting a precedent for the boundaries?
If the ref has neglected or compromised his role in maintaining player safety during the match, which:
· Results in injuries whilst he has his back turned (thus neglecting them) or,
· Allows a child to writhe around in pain, without giving permission for him to be attended to (only the ref can allow people to enter the field of play), causing them further duress whilst doing so or,
· Allows 'from behind' or 'studs up' dangerous tackles, without penalty (which are classed as serious fouls and carry a red card caution last time I checked),
All of which are potentially considered as child abuse.
The parents to sit back and say nothing, as most suggest, can be potentially seen as contributing to the neglect and subject them to possible imprisonment.
ALLEGEDLY David Adams could be a good case scenario to set the broader boundaries of this new legislation, volunteer or not, his neglect could be seen to be held accountable for, don’t you think?
OR SHOULD WE JUST SAY NOTHING!!!!!
NO just the govt are , don't forget the UREWERA FOUR...
Would it be too much to arks the IBU parents to talk to their club and the Wharf parents to their club official?
And not do trial by DP or YF forum?
Thanks.
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This seems like the sort of thread that should be closed.
Pretty confident this thread will continue to deliver the lolz and wtfs
NO just the govt are , don't forget the UREWERA FOUR...
The who?
NO just the govt are , don't forget the UREWERA FOUR...
The who?
The raving lunatics the Police did a good job of stopping before things got out of hand. Hopefully sharing a cell with some very nice people right now!
This seems like the sort of thread that should be closed.
Pretty confident this thread will continue to deliver the lolz and wtfs
Shit yeah. Don't close it yet!
Agreed. Though surely its hit its peak with the crimes amendment act!
From the IBU website:
11th Grade Incident <!-- .entry-meta --> <!-- .entry-header -->
Dear IBU parents and players,
Naturally we are very concerned to ensure that our club is a safe environment for all players and parents. Members are rightly concerned by recent media speculation after an incident at a Karori vs IBU 11th grade match. The club committee was already well aware of the incident and had been working with the parents and coach of the team concerned, and with officials of the Karori club as well. Newspaper stories have not been helpful and may have not been accurate.
Today the club forwarded it’s own report of the incident to Capital Football and the coach in question has agreed to take time off from the sidelines for the next few weeks while Capital Football continue their investigation.
A serious incident did occur and serious allegations have been made. Both are very difficult for the coach and players, but during the investigation both sides of the story need to be heard before conclusions are drawn, and we will be working with Capital Football to make sure that process is fair, comprehensive and not conducted through the media.
Among the dozens of coaches, hundreds of players and thousands of games that occur over a season, it is very sad that this one has made the headlines. We’d like to remind all junior club parents and coaches that speculation is unhelpful and may be based on incomplete or inaccurate information. Please continue to set the best example by being as considerate, fair-minded and encouraging as you can be on sidelines in the coming weeks.
Please note that all media enquiries on the matter are being directed to Capital Football.
Kind regards,
Quintin Tahau – Club Captain
To the Whole Football Community,
I sincerely apologise for my regrettable actions during an 11th Grade match on the 12th of May.
I apologise to my Family; Friends; IBUAFC Junior and Senior Clubs; Waterside Karori AFC; Capital Football and Associated Clubs.
For all my love and efforts that go into my wonderful Club, it pains me to have brought IBUAFC’s proud name into disrepute by my inappropriate, inexcusable and deeply regrettable actions.
I am extremely disappointed that I have also brought the wider Football Community and Football in general into disrepute with my behaviour and its subsequent attention in the media.
The last 3 weeks, in the aftermath of the event, have been a rollercoaster of emotions for me, culminating in having to endure public humiliation and traumatic emotions that have questioned my sanity at times. I do not wish this on anyone and implore all to take heed, that this sort of behaviour is unacceptable and that there has to be a better way.
Like in a nightmare, I have re-enacted the events that day a thousand times and sought a different outcome every time, in an effort to change the sequence of events that took place that day. Sadly, unlike a nightmare, I never got to wake up and realise it was just that.
I have thoroughly reflected on and addressed the error of my way and am deeply remorseful.
Given the opportunity to learn from my mistake, I vow to make every effort to redeem myself.
That may be out of my hands and I am expecting a formidable punishment from the governing body Capital Football and expect to be made an example of and will duly accept it. I have accepted to step down as Coach in the interim for 3 weeks on the Club’s request, pending the outcome of the CF investigation.
No penalty will super cede the public humiliation I have had to endure at the hands of the media and I expect no sympathy.
I AM SO SORRY,
JAN CHMIELEWSKI
Some bitch goes crying to the DoomPost and a storm gets whipped up.
Keep it out of the media next time :\
Or just make sure there isn't a next time
The Island Bay coach has been suspended for the rest of the season.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7031402/Abusive-kids-coach-banned-from-sidelines
Some bitch goes crying to the DoomPost and a storm gets whipped up.
Keep it out of the media next time :\
It might be best to let the matter rest now, there is no need to stir things up again. A judgement has been made and punishment handed out.
A mate of mine played at McAlister Park at 12.30 on Saturday and he said the game next door, which he thought was Tawa vs Island Bay had an 11 v 11 brawl. No idea what grade it was but they had no proper ref. Quite interested to hear what came of it.
at least it was a fair fight
7/07/2012 Capital 18 IBU - Rampage Tawa Stus lot MacAlister 2 12:30
Guessing that is it.
Theres scraps pretty much every week in Cap 5, BNU vs. Wgtn United had to be stopped on the weekend. Im over it, theres some good players in Cap 5 capable of a good standard of football but im pretty sure most of them only play to start shit that they wouldnt be able to get away with under proper refs in a higher grade. Dirty challenges, mouthing off, provocation... etc. Its a shame, it would otherwise be a sweet grade to play in, a good mix of capable footballers in a social setting, but yeah
You'd never get an 11 v 11 brawl at Naenae park. :(
Everyone would get stuck in the mud
We had an incident on Saturday in the Wairarapa that involved a player form one club verbally abusing the ref after the game and then attempting to strike the ref in some way. Not too sure on the exact details, but i know the ref has written a full report, and sent it to capital Football/ Be interesting to see what comes of it
He said Gattsche repeatedly told him to "f*** off, f*** off" after giving him two yellow cards, and therefore a red, for heavy tackling.
Fasavalu denied he was involved in heavy tackling and the penalty, coupled with grief, caused him to lash out.
"I do regret my actions that day. But it would never have prevailed if I was treated fair like every other player," he said outside court.
Yeah, because the referee was picking on you and only you for no apparent reason. OK...
seems to me that he's not really taking responsibility for his actions, suggesting a ref was picking on him for racial reasons. He only seems to be sorry for the fact he got caught, fined and banned.
seems to me that he's not really taking responsibility for his actions, suggesting a ref was picking on him for racial reasons. He only seems to be sorry for the fact he got caught, fined and banned.
Punched one of my players in a pre-season game before that season started. Soon as I heard about the incident, and which club was involved, I knew which player it would be.
He said Gattsche repeatedly told him to "f*** off, f*** off" after giving him two yellow cards, and therefore a red, for heavy tackling.
Fasavalu denied he was involved in heavy tackling and the penalty, coupled with grief, caused him to lash out.
"I do regret my actions that day. But it would never have prevailed if I was treated fair like every other player," he said outside court.
Yeah, because the referee was picking on you and only you for no apparent reason. OK...
A timely reminder to all involved this season to please remember to break your ref's jaw whenever you either get sent off or are denied a penalty.
What a shame.
My nieces game of football in Auckland was abandoned on Saturday after there was a fight between a parent (not related to me) and the referee (also not related to me). She is 12 years old.
Two questions:
* I've not seen a newspaper recently, but was there any newspaper coverage of this event? It seems this sort of thing would be all over the paper if it happened in Wellington
* What kind of absolute cunt ends up in a fist fight with a referee because of some decisions he made in an under 12 game of football?
that is terrible, what kind of example is that to set for kids.
My nieces game of football in Auckland was abandoned on Saturday after there was a fight between a parent (not related to me) and the referee (also not related to me). She is 12 years old.
Two questions:
* I've not seen a newspaper recently, but was there any newspaper coverage of this event? It seems this sort of thing would be all over the paper if it happened in Wellington
* What kind of absolute cunt ends up in a fist fight with a referee because of some decisions he made in an under 12 game of football?
There are far too many incident of parents doing dumb shit on the side lines at kids games. My son is a passionate parent and I have had to tell him to make sure he remembers why his son is playing sport. At 5 years old, the kids are playing purely for the fun of it.
My nieces game of football in Auckland was abandoned on Saturday after there was a fight between a parent (not related to me) and the referee (also not related to me). She is 12 years old.
Two questions:
* I've not seen a newspaper recently, but was there any newspaper coverage of this event? It seems this sort of thing would be all over the paper if it happened in Wellington
* What kind of absolute cunt ends up in a fist fight with a referee because of some decisions he made in an under 12 game of football?
Pretty shameful behavior... an an awful example for all kids involved.
I'm pretty sure I read on stuff about a fight at an U7 rugby game last week (I think that one was in Akl too).. and I was surprised to read about it since rugby is never spoken of in a bad way in the media.
NZ Herald is doing a series on Sideline champs - all about good and bad behaviour from parents. It might make an appearance there in the next few days.
It's great that the spotlight is on spectator behaviour (to the players, the ref and each other), but in all honesty the times that I've seen poor behaviour have been maybe twice at the most over the last 6 years of junior football.
Edit: I bet I've jinxed myself now and next weekend I'm going to nut off at the ref and go all Joe Jordan on him like he was Gattuso.
Cap 11 team kicked out of the competition for bad behavior according to Dom Post
Link to story?
Not true as far as I know - withdrawn not kicked out.
edit: cannot even multi quote on this forum. sigh..
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/8755729/Abusive-team-given-the-boot
"Three of Olympic AKA's first seven opponents in the social Capital 11 grade complained to Capital Football about harassment of referees, physical intimidation and verbal abuse."
edit: cannot even multi quote on this forum. sigh..
Working on it...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10889271
Silence, urged by one football coach, is not the answer. Enthusiastic support on the sidelines ought to be encouraged. But it needs a better language than "hit 'em hard", "smash 'em", "take him out of it".
Oh. So what I thought was pro-active, positive support...