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holeinone
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getting a letter at work this morning about restructuring and redundancies also being invited to make any comments or input that will help the boss make the correct decisions.

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holeinone wrote:

getting a letter at work this morning about restructuring and redundancies also being invited to make any comments or input that will help the boss make the correct decisions.

If you told the Boss to fudge off would that help him/her?

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holeinone wrote:

getting a letter at work this morning about restructuring and redundancies also being invited to make any comments or input that will help the boss make the correct decisions.

From experience, any "comments" are normally irrelevant. They've already made up their mind.

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That sucks mate. Sorry to hear. In my experience sometimes comments can make a difference, especially when they are made by multiple people (eg a whole department thinks making X position redundant will contribute to Y going wrong) so that's the approach I would take.
Also, I would recommend reading the proposal document from cover to cover several times and understanding what they are saying 100%. Also take note of proposed deadlines, expected decision dates etc.

If things go south, lawyer up and use your notes if they have deviated at all from the original plan...

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That sucks mate. Sorry to hear. In my experience sometimes comments can make a difference, especially when they are made by multiple people (eg a whole department thinks making X position redundant will contribute to Y going wrong) so that's the approach I would take.
Also, I would recommend reading the proposal document from cover to cover several times and understanding what they are saying 100%. Also take note of proposed deadlines, expected decision dates etc.

If things go south, lawyer up and use your notes if they have deviated at all from the original plan...

This is very good advice. A surprising number of employers get things legally wrong when going through a restructure, so if things don't work out well for you it can definitely be helpful having a lawyer look over what happened.

I also strongly suggest that you provide feedback and comments on the proposal, often people overseeing change management don't have a full grasp of the inner workings of a business, so if in your feedback you can point out how it could affect the bottom line, or the business' ability to maintain standard operations, it can definitely lead to a re-think.

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Agreed. As a (former-ish) HR professional I would say definitely give feedback. In my current place of work a significant decision was overturned thanks for staff feedback so that goes to show managers don't always make up their mind before hand.
Also, a couple of hundred $ spent seeing a lawyer could provide an awesome ROI down the line...

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Ryan
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Yeah, we went through a restructure recently and some people that were made redundant were retained during the consultation period.

holeinone
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there are only 7 of us in the factory and business is very slow, and the review is being done by one person the owner, i feel he has already made up his mind who he wants to go and is giving those people a chance to put their case forward as to why they should stay. work will pick up again after the fieldays in hamilton but that is still a month or so away.

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The Premier League season finishing in a tick under 6 hours.

Although as a United fan I should probably be happy about that...

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Inside Sport Forum:  "It appears what has happened is that the toilet they usually go to was roped off this week. The father wanted to take her there because he understands his child's needs. The pigs stopped him because they don't understand shark." 

" Why would they rope off normally open toilets? 

Unless there is a bloody good reason it is a disgrace. He probably sits where he does to be very close to those toilets.

And then to kick him out is even worse. I really hope the media picks this up and runs with it."

But what sport had the 2 "confrontations"  at the same game!

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Blew.2 wrote:

I Understand

Inside Sport Forum:  "It appears what has happened is that the toilet they usually go to was roped off this week. The father wanted to take her there because he understands his child's needs. The pigs stopped him because they don't understand shark." 

" Why would they rope off normally open toilets? 

Unless there is a bloody good reason it is a disgrace. He probably sits where he does to be very close to those toilets.

And then to kick him out is even worse. I really hope the media picks this up and runs with it."

But what sport had the 2 "confrontations"  at the same game!

Fudge this really pisses me off - most likeley no sleep to night  this morning :-( 

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My job!

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holeinone
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holeinone wrote:

getting a letter at work this morning about restructuring and redundancies also being invited to make any comments or input that will help the boss make the correct decisions.

well i survived the cull and still have a job, the funny thing is now that they have got rid of 3 people there seems to be too much work for the 4 of us left and morale is a bit low as we are expected to do all the jobs that 7 of us used to do in the same amount of time.

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Morale is always low after a restructuring and the problem will be that now people will be looking to move on, usually the best people leave after a restructure.

Anyway, congrats on surviving.

YoungHeart
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Moronic HR pen-pushers who can't give you a straight answer and generally make you feel like shark.

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holeinone wrote:

holeinone wrote:

getting a letter at work this morning about restructuring and redundancies also being invited to make any comments or input that will help the boss make the correct decisions.

well i survived the cull and still have a job, the funny thing is now that they have got rid of 3 people there seems to be too much work for the 4 of us left and morale is a bit low as we are expected to do all the jobs that 7 of us used to do in the same amount of time.

Good job on surviving, going through the same process at work too as company was taken over by a big multinational not too long ago. Went from a team of 24 down to 18. Absolute nightmare, the overtime is through the roof and we have to stop production for all smoko breaks because it's impossible to keep running with so few staff, don't even get me started on people being absent or on annual leave - it's all a bit of a joke to be fair.

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