Tyler Boyd - USA (Nashville SC | USA)
Stuff.
Expecting some retractions from the "He's not good enough to get a contract in Europe/The US" commenters...
I hope he makes a go of it. Personally I think it is too soon for him but wish him all the best.
Getting the contract is just the first step
Oh, sorry I got confused between the two.
Oh, sorry I got confused between the two.
The other is Vitoria Setubal, officially known as Vitoria FC. Makes it extra confusing hence clubs are know as Vitoria de Guimaraes & Vitoria de Setubal. :D (I believe when it was reported as SC a few people mixed that up as Setubal instead)
Advanced, 20, arrives from New Zealand Vitória Sport Clube assured hiring Tyler Boyd for the new season. The advanced, just 20, is the first Victorian reinforcement for the season 2015/2016. Tyler Boyd, acting on the Wellington Phoenix, is international in New Zealand, and then made his whole career. The young striker, fast and with good finishing, is the league's top scorer and scored ten goals in ten games and was the author of a poker in the last round, assuming as one of the greatest talents of the New Zealand championship.
I will laugh if they signed him on the basis that he scored 10 goals in the ASBP and they thought it was the HAL.
"author of a poker in the last round"
Intriguing. Please expand.(maybe some photos if possible).
Assuming that is a hattrick?
I will laugh if they signed he on the basis that he scored 10 goals in the ASBP and they thought it was the HAL.
Oh that'd be just awesome.
Assuming that is a hattrick?
Think it's more this...
Assuming that is a hattrick?
Hoping it is something more.
MEDIA RELEASE
For immediate release
Tyler Boyd leaving Phoenix at end of the season
Wellington Phoenix striker Tyler Boyd has signed a four-year deal with Portuguese club Vitoria SC and will leave the Wellington Phoenix when his contract expires at the end of the current season.
Phoenix head coach Ernie Merrick said Boyd had been keen to move to Europe.
“We have known for some time that Tyler wanted to play in Europe and I wish him all the best for the future,” Merrick said.
Boyd, 20, was part of the Phoenix’ first intake to its Football School of Excellence and was signed on a three-year professional contract.
Minimal comment from Ernie is pretty telling.
Advanced Forward, 20, arrives from New Zealand Vitória Sport Clube assured hiring confirmed a contract will be given to Tyler Boyd for the new season. The forward advanced, just 20, is the first Victorian reinforcement for Vitoria for the 2015/2016 season. Tyler Boyd, playing for acting on the Wellington Phoenix, is international in New Zealand, and then made a New Zealand international where he has played his whole career to date. The young striker, fast and with good finishing, is the league's top scorer and scored ten goals in ten games and was the author of a poker tap-in in the last round, assuming as confirming his reputation as one of the greatest talents of the New Zealand championship.
Corrections in italics are mine (as per text in the original link)
"author of a poker in the last round"
Intriguing. Please expand.(maybe some photos if possible).
Well if you have a forward on your books who is off to Europe and he isn't even on your bench when you have struggled to score goals for 4 games and instead you are signing a guy who is a known supercod and hated by many of your fan base, well, the coach does have some explaining to do.
Is J. Griff less of a cod than Boyd? If Boyd hasn't been giving his all in training that would be poor and reflect badly on him.
Sure we want to develop players, but also we want to have our strongest team on the park.
If it's just an unusual case of a young NZ player playing hard ball over a contract and having ambitions and connections...He's no Marco, but could become a very handy player.
I think Boyd could have played more and still could play a part in our season. As a fan I want to see us crushing opposition as we did. If he's genuinely worse than Kenny, fine. I'm just disappointed not to have seen him play hardly at all this season.
However, if it's Hicks keeping him off the bench...That lad has now scored two late goals against Newcastle IIRC. Damn good. Let's keep him please!
So lost in translation maybe....they think they have signed a top drawer striker..
That said, Boyd has talent.
Well if you have a forward on your books who is off to Europe and he isn't even on your bench when you have struggled to score goals for 4 games and instead you are signing a guy who is a known supercod and hated by many of your fan base, well, the coach does have some explaining to do.
Is J. Griff less of a cod than Boyd? If Boyd hasn't been giving his all in training that would be poor and reflect badly on him.
Sure we want to develop players, but also we want to have our strongest team on the park.
If it's just an unusual case of a young NZ player playing hard ball over a contract and having ambitions and connections...He's no Marco, but could become a very handy player.
I think Boyd could have played more and still could play a part in our season. As a fan I want to see us crushing opposition as we did. If he's genuinely worse than Kenny, fine. I'm just disappointed not to have seen him play hardly at all this season.
However, if it's Hicks keeping him off the bench...That lad has now scored two late goals against Newcastle IIRC. Damn good. Let's keep him please!
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Griffiths and Boyd are very different types of players though. In terms of style Boyd doesn't offer anything that Krishna and Burns aren't already providing, whereas Griffiths gives us something we don't have in the squad already - a striker with strength and height and a character flaw
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I hope he doesn't get a red card but it will be nice to have a striker that wont get pushed around too easily.
Well if you have a forward on your books who is off to Europe and he isn't even on your bench when you have struggled to score goals for 4 games and instead you are signing a guy who is a known supercod and hated by many of your fan base, well, the coach does have some explaining to do.
Is J. Griff less of a cod than Boyd? If Boyd hasn't been giving his all in training that would be poor and reflect badly on him.
Sure we want to develop players, but also we want to have our strongest team on the park.
If it's just an unusual case of a young NZ player playing hard ball over a contract and having ambitions and connections...He's no Marco, but could become a very handy player.
I think Boyd could have played more and still could play a part in our season. As a fan I want to see us crushing opposition as we did. If he's genuinely worse than Kenny, fine. I'm just disappointed not to have seen him play hardly at all this season.
However, if it's Hicks keeping him off the bench...That lad has now scored two late goals against Newcastle IIRC. Damn good. Let's keep him please!
Ditto Hicks and McG surely? No reason for Hicks to be on the bench last week, McG had that covered? I'm just saying that the Boyd is a difficult guy aspect, must make him more difficult that J. Griffiths surely...
So lost in translation maybe....they think they have signed a top drawer striker..
That said, Boyd has talent.
Well if you have a forward on your books who is off to Europe and he isn't even on your bench when you have struggled to score goals for 4 games and instead you are signing a guy who is a known supercod and hated by many of your fan base, well, the coach does have some explaining to do.
Is J. Griff less of a cod than Boyd? If Boyd hasn't been giving his all in training that would be poor and reflect badly on him.
Sure we want to develop players, but also we want to have our strongest team on the park.
If it's just an unusual case of a young NZ player playing hard ball over a contract and having ambitions and connections...He's no Marco, but could become a very handy player.
I think Boyd could have played more and still could play a part in our season. As a fan I want to see us crushing opposition as we did. If he's genuinely worse than Kenny, fine. I'm just disappointed not to have seen him play hardly at all this season.
However, if it's Hicks keeping him off the bench...That lad has now scored two late goals against Newcastle IIRC. Damn good. Let's keep him please!
Ditto Hicks and McG surely? No reason for Hicks to be on the bench last week, McG had that covered? I'm just saying that the Boyd is a difficult guy aspect, must make him more difficult that J. Griffiths surely...
Sell a 20 years old young prospect and bring a 35 years old aussie... i smell genious!
Just like Argentinian football then...
Sell the youngsters, bring back the veterans from Europe...
I will laugh if they signed him on the basis that he scored 10 goals in the ASBP and they thought it was the HAL.
The Portuguese media at least are clued up: Tyler's all over the Portuguese media and they have all the facts. It's a pretty sophisticated sports media and I'm sure the club are wised up too.
http://www.guimaraesdigital.com/noticias/58929/int...
"Tyler Boyd is the top scorer of the Wellington Phoenix in New Zealand 1st Division with 10 goals in 10 games. Four of them were appointed at the last meeting, three in marking of large penalties, before the Southern United. The same club also competes for The League of Australia, with its first team. And in this competitive championship, Tyler Boyd scored twice, being rated as the fifth top scorer."
http://www.ojogo.pt/Futebol/1a_liga/vitoria_guimar...
"20 year-old forward scored 12 goals last season, although only two have been achieved by the first team. The largest share was achieved in the reserve team, which played in the second tier
The Vitoria Guimaraes confirmed hiring Tyler Boyd for next season. The forward, just 20, is the first Victorian reinforcement for 2015/2016, announced the Victorian club on the official website. Tyler Boyd, who plays for Wellington Phoenix, is a New Zealand international, and has made his whole career there. The young striker scored two goals for the first team of Wellington Phoenix and ten in the reserve team, which competed in the championship equivalent to II Liga. In the last game he scoreded a poker (four goals)."
http://rr.sapo.pt/bolabranca_detalhe.aspx?fid=42&d...
"The Vitoria Guimaraes hired young Tyler Dominic Boyd , 20, from the Wellington Phoenix. Announced is the first reinforcement for next season. The official website of Vitoria Guimarães shows the speed and the good finishing of the player and highlights the fact that the top scorer in the Second League of New Zealand, with 10 goals in 10 games. The athlete was highlighted in 14th round Second League New Zealand, signing a "poker" across the Southern United, in the victory of Wellington Phoenix 6-2. The further strengthening of Victory takes on average 54 minutes to score and averages 1.67 goals per game. The Minho team can count on the contribution of this player who has had two caps for selection of New Zealand. The young man is assumed as one of the best talents in the championship of the country."
Sell a 20 years old young prospect and bring a 35 years old aussie... i smell genious!
Just like Argentinian football then...
Sell the youngsters, bring back the veterans from Europe...
yep, pretty much... anyway i'm happy for the lad, a great opportunity
Well if you have a forward on your books who is off to Europe and he isn't even on your bench when you have struggled to score goals for 4 games and instead you are signing a guy who is a known supercod and hated by many of your fan base, well, the coach does have some explaining to do.
Is J. Griff less of a cod than Boyd? If Boyd hasn't been giving his all in training that would be poor and reflect badly on him.
Sure we want to develop players, but also we want to have our strongest team on the park.
If it's just an unusual case of a young NZ player playing hard ball over a contract and having ambitions and connections...He's no Marco, but could become a very handy player.
I think Boyd could have played more and still could play a part in our season. As a fan I want to see us crushing opposition as we did. If he's genuinely worse than Kenny, fine. I'm just disappointed not to have seen him play hardly at all this season.
However, if it's Hicks keeping him off the bench...That lad has now scored two late goals against Newcastle IIRC. Damn good. Let's keep him please!
Ditto Hicks and McG surely? No reason for Hicks to be on the bench last week, McG had that covered? I'm just saying that the Boyd is a difficult guy aspect, must make him more difficult that J. Griffiths surely...
Your forgetting Cunningham.
I just don't get why he got his knickers in a twist. When you then have similar players and one guy gets down, wants to leave and doesn't play the team game, then you put him in position 23 and leave him there.
Well if you have a forward on your books who is off to Europe and he isn't even on your bench when you have struggled to score goals for 4 games and instead you are signing a guy who is a known supercod and hated by many of your fan base, well, the coach does have some explaining to do.
Is J. Griff less of a cod than Boyd? If Boyd hasn't been giving his all in training that would be poor and reflect badly on him.
Sure we want to develop players, but also we want to have our strongest team on the park.
If it's just an unusual case of a young NZ player playing hard ball over a contract and having ambitions and connections...He's no Marco, but could become a very handy player.
I think Boyd could have played more and still could play a part in our season. As a fan I want to see us crushing opposition as we did. If he's genuinely worse than Kenny, fine. I'm just disappointed not to have seen him play hardly at all this season.
However, if it's Hicks keeping him off the bench...That lad has now scored two late goals against Newcastle IIRC. Damn good. Let's keep him please!
Ditto Hicks and McG surely? No reason for Hicks to be on the bench last week, McG had that covered? I'm just saying that the Boyd is a difficult guy aspect, must make him more difficult that J. Griffiths surely...
Your forgetting Cunningham.
I just don't get why he got his knickers in a twist. When you then have similar players and one guy gets down, wants to leave and doesn't play the team game, then you put him in position 23 and leave him there.
Once again you are just assuming things with no concrete evidence and broadcasting it for people all around the world to see. I haven't seen any evidence that Tyler Boyd did not play the team game and putting someone who wants to leave at 23 is just silly if you think that player can still contribute. Boyd is a football player and he wasn't playing football so he got a better deal and left. Seems standard fare to me.
Cunningham has been poor for the Phoenix this season. A big disappointment after last year.
To be fair to Cunningham, he hasn't had much of an opportunity on match day to show anything has he?
Well if you have a forward on your books who is off to Europe and he isn't even on your bench when you have struggled to score goals for 4 games and instead you are signing a guy who is a known supercod and hated by many of your fan base, well, the coach does have some explaining to do.
Is J. Griff less of a cod than Boyd? If Boyd hasn't been giving his all in training that would be poor and reflect badly on him.
Sure we want to develop players, but also we want to have our strongest team on the park.
If it's just an unusual case of a young NZ player playing hard ball over a contract and having ambitions and connections...He's no Marco, but could become a very handy player.
I think Boyd could have played more and still could play a part in our season. As a fan I want to see us crushing opposition as we did. If he's genuinely worse than Kenny, fine. I'm just disappointed not to have seen him play hardly at all this season.
However, if it's Hicks keeping him off the bench...That lad has now scored two late goals against Newcastle IIRC. Damn good. Let's keep him please!
Ditto Hicks and McG surely? No reason for Hicks to be on the bench last week, McG had that covered? I'm just saying that the Boyd is a difficult guy aspect, must make him more difficult that J. Griffiths surely...
Your forgetting Cunningham.
I just don't get why he got his knickers in a twist. When you then have similar players and one guy gets down, wants to leave and doesn't play the team game, then you put him in position 23 and leave him there.
Once again you are just assuming things with no concrete evidence and broadcasting it for people all around the world to see. I haven't seen any evidence that Tyler Boyd did not play the team game and putting someone who wants to leave at 23 is just silly if you think that player can still contribute. Boyd is a football player and he wasn't playing football so he got a better deal and left. Seems standard fare to me.
Cunningham has been poor for the Phoenix this season. A big disappointment after last year.
There are more than a couple of pretty good sources that say his attitude has turned to custard and its why he is not getting a look in. Kenny is pretty much gone as well and Boxall rumoured yet they are playing... what's the difference between those two and Boyd? Could it be... oh I don't know... attitude perhaps?
The big hint dropped by the Boyd fans is that Ernie has it in for their lad for some inexplicable and possibly sinister reasons. I'd like them to say what it is.
I suppose it doesn't really matter now because he's going but as far as I'm aware the 'best' evidence we have of this poor attitude are a couple of comments that people have heard from "sources" he has an attitude problem. There are enough people on here that visit Nix trainings and rub shoulders with some of them at the pub/functions etc - what have you seen or heard? If he is as big a cock as people are intimating, it would have been on show for all to see. Otherwise I'd take it with a grain of salt.
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Well if you have a forward on your books who is off to Europe and he isn't even on your bench when you have struggled to score goals for 4 games and instead you are signing a guy who is a known supercod and hated by many of your fan base, well, the coach does have some explaining to do.
Is J. Griff less of a cod than Boyd? If Boyd hasn't been giving his all in training that would be poor and reflect badly on him.
Sure we want to develop players, but also we want to have our strongest team on the park.
If it's just an unusual case of a young NZ player playing hard ball over a contract and having ambitions and connections...He's no Marco, but could become a very handy player.
I think Boyd could have played more and still could play a part in our season. As a fan I want to see us crushing opposition as we did. If he's genuinely worse than Kenny, fine. I'm just disappointed not to have seen him play hardly at all this season.
However, if it's Hicks keeping him off the bench...That lad has now scored two late goals against Newcastle IIRC. Damn good. Let's keep him please!
Ditto Hicks and McG surely? No reason for Hicks to be on the bench last week, McG had that covered? I'm just saying that the Boyd is a difficult guy aspect, must make him more difficult that J. Griffiths surely...
*snip*
Also my point wasn't about just about like for like (though I do think there is definitely a case for Boyd ahead of Cunningham). THe reason given is his attitude. J. Griffiths surely has a much worse record than Boyd of attitude throughout his career if this is the reason.
Anyway, he's got a good move. We've signed Appiah and Griffiths. We've got to try and win the league with what we've got now.
Yeah, I don't think character assassinations are necessary - it's likely he was dropped, didn't really like that, looked for other deals, found a better deal and now he doesn't really care about this season.
He wouldn't be the first footballer who has acted this way.
One things for real if part of the reason is an attitude thing he will want to make sure he dosnt pack that in his bag when he leaves. Because they won't put up with that crap over there. Mind you would seem like Erie dosnt either.
Yeah, I don't think character assassinations are necessary - it's likely he was dropped, didn't really like that, looked for other deals, found a better deal and now he doesn't really care about this season.
He wouldn't be the first footballer who has acted this way.
That being said if he does not care about the season i.e. attitude, then as coach, you move him to position 23. Professionals see the job out to the end because they are being paid to do so. Look at Brockie as a shining example. Its also not a character assassination at all in my opinion. I met Boyd once with my grandson and he was very polite with him etc but are we talking about all the stuff he does with the fans and the community or are we talking about what he does with the team. Ahmad Elrich was reported to be a stand up guy but how was his attitude when it came to football and the team?
Unfortunately with some things, perception is reality.