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"He makes some spectacular saves, but he has to because hes out of position so often" - Is Richard Wilson speaking about Van Hattum or Moss?

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Thought they deserved their own thread as quite a few people on here will support them. Pretty good chance to progress to the second round I think, hope they do as it will be good for this part of the world and the A-League. Also to those who can't stand to support them (AKA News), it is good for us if they do well for heaps of reasons and there is no real reason for us to want them to do bad/not progress beyond first round...

Likely WC Squad:

Goalkeepers:
-Mark Schwarzer
-Michael Petkovic
-Adam Federici/Brad Jones

Defenders:
-Craig Moore
-Lucas Neill
-Luke Wilkshire
-Scott Chipperfield
-Shane Lowry
-David Carney
-Rhys Williams
-Mark Milligan

Midfielders:
-Jason Culina
-Mark Bresciano
-Harry Kewell
-Brett Emerton
-Tim Cahill
-Vince Grella
-Carl Valeri
-Mile Jedinak (maybe?)

Strikers:
-Josh Kennedy
-Scott McDonald
-Bruce Djiite
-Mile Sterjovski/Brett Holman/Dario Vidosic

Anyone disagree with this squad? The last striker position it pretty open and you could say McDonald's place is under-threat however I doubt they will keep him out of the WC squad. Colosimo could maybe force his way in...wellyphoenixfan2009-11-18 12:10:55

"He makes some spectacular saves, but he has to because hes out of position so often" - Is Richard Wilson speaking about Van Hattum or Moss?

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pretty strong team in some aspects. anyone else think we could take them. i do
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Downey26 wrote:
pretty strong team in some aspects. anyone else think we could take them. i do
Despite on paper the fact that they should beat us by a few goals, the fact they don't really "click" as a team, they stuggled with Bahrain and the fact we should lift if we play them I think we have quite a good chance to beat them.

"He makes some spectacular saves, but he has to because hes out of position so often" - Is Richard Wilson speaking about Van Hattum or Moss?

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Think Australia will have a tough job to get to 2nd round this time around. They'll in all likelihood be in a group with a seeded team, a European side, and an African/South American team.

Even with Cahill in the squad it's a pretty average team by international standards.el grapadura2009-11-18 12:17:30
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Downey26 wrote:
pretty strong team in some aspects. anyone else think we could take them. i do
Despite on paper the fact that they should beat us by a few goals, the fact they don't really "click" as a team, they stuggled with Bahrain and the fact we should lift if we play them I think we have quite a good chance to beat them.
 
yea stronger on paper than they are on the pitch
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el grapadura wrote:
Think Australia will have a tough job to get to 2nd round this time around. They'll in all likelihood be in a group with a seeded team, a European side, and an African/South Americn team.

Even with Cahill in the squad it's a pretty average team by international standards.
I think it is a pretty strong squad, they just play poorly together. Kewell, Schwarzer and Neill could make most other international squads (albeit not first team).

"He makes some spectacular saves, but he has to because hes out of position so often" - Is Richard Wilson speaking about Van Hattum or Moss?

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el grapadura wrote:
Think Australia will have a tough job to get to 2nd round this time around. They'll in all likelihood be in a group with a seeded team, a European side, and an African/South Americn team.

Even with Cahill in the squad it's a pretty average team by international standards.
I think it is a pretty strong squad, they just play poorly together. Kewell, Schwarzer and Neill could make most other international squads (albeit not first team).


Kewell probably, Schwarzer maybe, but he's very old now, Neill is average.
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not sure how good kewell is playing now for whoever it is in turkey he plays for. galatasaray?  heard he played defence for a bit. schwarzer is adequate, and neill will do.
 
i wouldnt say they are guna set the tounament alight
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el grapadura wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
Think Australia will have a tough job to get to 2nd round this time around. They'll in all likelihood be in a group with a seeded team, a European side, and an African/South Americn team.

Even with Cahill in the squad it's a pretty average team by international standards.
I think it is a pretty strong squad, they just play poorly together. Kewell, Schwarzer and Neill could make most other international squads (albeit not first team).


Kewell probably, Schwarzer maybe, but he's very old now, Neill is average.
Yeah that is why Nelsen is easily the best defender in Oceania (geographically speaking).

"He makes some spectacular saves, but he has to because hes out of position so often" - Is Richard Wilson speaking about Van Hattum or Moss?

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Downey26 wrote:
pretty strong team in some aspects. anyone else think we could take them. i do
Despite on paper the fact that they should beat us by a few goals, the fact they don't really "click" as a team, they stuggled with Bahrain and the fact we should lift if we play them I think we have quite a good chance to beat them.


That is not much difference to what we did against Bahrain, except they won 2-0 at home rather 1-0 that we did. I don't buy that "fact" they don't click as a team since AFC is a hard being on the road where the home advantage is bigger. (Anyone remember how lucky we got away with a 0-0 draw against Bahrain)?

Also if you think about their amazing goal defence in the final asian group stage? It was a zero goal against I think that we have out work cut out to try and score against them.

The best that I can see us performing against Pim's Socceroo is 0-0 draw. Also at the World Cup finals, with the 21 days of pre-tournament training preparation, there is plenty of time for this team to click. they are not going to just have 3 days before an international WC match. they are going to have 7 times that amount for at least three matches in the group stage and Pim is very experienced coach at these tournaments. Socceroo's at world cup mode, we would be lucky to get away with a 1-0 lost, where it is likely they will get knock two or three goals.

However I think that we can make a very strong defence in the centre midfield and centre backs. At the world cup, it's the speed of the wings and crosses, that I get a bit worried.

It is a very good chance that we will see the 3-4-3 and the 5-2-3 in the World Cup Finals with a hint of 3-5-2 over 4-4-2.

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Anyone reckon Durante has a shot? I dont know all of those defenders so I cant comment.
 
Aussie could do quite well (get to ro of 16) if they get their **** sorted. They looked pretty average at times in AFC qualifying. They do rely on Cahill too much though
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I saw Scott Mcdonald for the first time about a month ago (for Celtic) and thought he would walk into the Aus team with his eyes closed. How is his position under threat? I dont know about you guys but Aus will definately be my second team and I hope they do well.
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Nz Seb wrote:
I saw Scott Mcdonald for the first time about a month ago (for Celtic) and thought he would walk into the Aus team with his eyes closed. How is his position under threat? I dont know about you guys but Aus will definately be my second team and I hope they do well.
 
Same here, supported them last time. Will be my second team this time round.
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threat wrote:
Anyone reckon Durante has a shot? I dont know all of those defenders so I cant comment.
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Aussie could do quite well (get to ro of 16) if they get their **** sorted. They looked pretty average at times in AFC qualifying. They do rely on Cahill too much though
Behind Colosimo and a few other A-League defenders plus the likes of North, so no. AWB I think they conceded one to Japan in a 2-1 win.

"He makes some spectacular saves, but he has to because hes out of position so often" - Is Richard Wilson speaking about Van Hattum or Moss?

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Nz Seb wrote:
I saw Scott Mcdonald for the first time about a month ago (for�Celtic)�and thought he would walk into the Aus team with his eyes closed. How is his position under threat? I dont know about you guys but Aus will definately be my second team and I hope they do well.
Has yet to score, doesn't start at all for them and was recently dropped from Oman squad.

"He makes some spectacular saves, but he has to because hes out of position so often" - Is Richard Wilson speaking about Van Hattum or Moss?

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Aussies are bloody well organised and will be hard for anyone to break down, particularly us, but they lack firepower up front I reckon. Cant keep relying on Cahill.
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Looks OK, although it needs more Matthew Spiranovic.

I just wish Macca would score for Australia already.

Hopefully Vidosic goes. Other fringe players like Troisi, Garcia, Kisnorbo etc might make a claim for a spot depending on form I guess.

Sadly, Holman will go because Pim loves him :/
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Aussies are bloody well organised and will be hard for anyone to break down, particularly us, but they lack firepower up front I reckon. Cant keep relying on Cahill.
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aussienixfan wrote:
Looks OK, although it needs more Matthew Spiranovic.

I just wish Macca would score for Australia already.

Hopefully Vidosic goes. Other fringe players like Troisi, Garcia, Kisnorbo etc might make a claim for a spot depending on form I guess.

Sadly, Holman will go because Pim loves him :/
Ruka seems like a good chance aswell.

"He makes some spectacular saves, but he has to because hes out of position so often" - Is Richard Wilson speaking about Van Hattum or Moss?

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