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Group F: GER | MEX | SWE | KOR

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There is a very real possibility that Mexico will not qualify despite having six points.  

If Germany beat Korea (highly likely) and Sweden beat Mexico (very possible) we have three on six.  Yet in other groups, four points will be enough to go through. That is the system though, they all know what is required.

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D-Sidi wrote:

That late goal by South Korea could really affect the outcome...if Sweden just win over Mexico and Germany beat South Korea, then Mexico will be out!  

Not exactly...The specific scores will be a factor. Mexico could still qualify even if Sweden & Germany both win as below (not my work).

- Mexico need a point vs. Sweden to go through and top the group. They are definitely through with a defeat if Germany fail to win.
- Sweden are guaranteed to qualify if they win or better Germany's result. If they beat Mexico and Germany fail to win, Sweden will top the group.
- Germany must win by two or more goals or better Sweden's result to guarantee qualifying.
- If both Germany and Sweden draw, the team in the higher-scoring game will finish second. If both draws are the same scoreline, Germany finish second on head-to-head.
- South Korea must beat Germany and hope Sweden lose to Mexico to have a chance of qualifying.

THREE-WAY TIE FOR FIRST AND SECOND
- If Sweden and Germany win, they will finish level on six points with Mexico, and it will first come down to goal difference.
- Sweden are guaranteed to qualify in all scenarios.
- Germany are guaranteed to qualify if they win by two goals.
- Mexico can only qualify if both games are won by one goal, and Mexico's game is either higher scoring or both the same score one-goal margin apart from 1-0
- If Sweden win by two or more goals, they are through, and that would mean Germany are guaranteed to qualify with any win (Mexico out).
- If Germany win by two or more goals they are through, with Sweden through with any win (Mexico out).
- If both Germany and Sweden win 1-0, the three teams would have identical records and it would go to head-to-head mini-league, and this would see Germany and Sweden through on goals scored. Mexico would be out by virtue of scoring one fewer goal in games between the three countries. First and second would be decided on Fair Play and at present Sweden's score is -3 and Germany's -5, so Sweden would finish top. Obviously this could change on the final matchday.
- If both Germany and Sweden win 2-1, then Sweden would win the group on head-to-head goals scored (they would have three goals in games between the three countries to Germany and Mexico's two). Second and third would be decided by Fair Play, and at present Mexico's score is -2 and Germany's -5 (Jerome Boateng's red card worth -3 the difference). Each yellow card is worth -1 so Mexico would be through unless they have several players booked or someone sent off compared to Germany.
- If both Germany and Sweden win 3-2 (or any higher one-goal identical margin of victory), then Sweden would win the group with Mexico second and Germany third on head-to-head mini-league goals scored.
- The only other way Mexico can go through, at the expense of Germany, if is both games are won by one goal, but Mexico's defeat against Sweden is a higher-scoring game.
- If Sweden win by one goal, and Germany win by one goal but in a higher-scoring game, Germany win the group with Sweden in second and Mexico out

THREE-WAY TIE FOR SECOND
- If South Korea win and Sweden lose there will be a three-way tie for second on three points for Germany, Sweden and South Korea. It will first come down to goal difference.
- If South Korea beat Germany by two goals, they are guaranteed to finish second
- If South Korea beat Germany 1-0 and Sweden lose 1-0 to Mexico, it will come down to Fair Play between Germany and Sweden with South Korea out on head-to-head goals scored. At present Sweden's score is -3 and Germany's -5, so Sweden best placed for second though that will change.
- If both games are won by the same one-goal margin other than 1-0, then Germany finish second on head-to-head goals scored.
- If South Korea beat Germany by a higher-scoring one-goal margin than Sweden lose to Mexico by, then South Korea would finish second on direct head-to-head against Germany with Sweden bottom.
- If Sweden lose to Mexico by a higher-scoring one-goal margin than South Korea beat Germany, then Sweden would finish second on goals scored.
- If Sweden lose by more than one goal, they cannot qualify, and South Korea would therefore finish second with any victory

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D-Sidi wrote:

That late goal by South Korea could really affect the outcome...if Sweden just win over Mexico and Germany beat South Korea, then Mexico will be out!  

Not exactly...The specific scores will be a factor. Mexico could still qualify even if Sweden & Germany both win as below (not my work).

- Mexico need a point vs. Sweden to go through and top the group. They are definitely through with a defeat if Germany fail to win.
- Sweden are guaranteed to qualify if they win or better Germany's result. If they beat Mexico and Germany fail to win, Sweden will top the group.
- Germany must win by two or more goals or better Sweden's result to guarantee qualifying.
- If both Germany and Sweden draw, the team in the higher-scoring game will finish second. If both draws are the same scoreline, Germany finish second on head-to-head.
- South Korea must beat Germany and hope Sweden lose to Mexico to have a chance of qualifying.

THREE-WAY TIE FOR FIRST AND SECOND
- If Sweden and Germany win, they will finish level on six points with Mexico, and it will first come down to goal difference.
- Sweden are guaranteed to qualify in all scenarios.
- Germany are guaranteed to qualify if they win by two goals.
- Mexico can only qualify if both games are won by one goal, and Mexico's game is either higher scoring or both the same score one-goal margin apart from 1-0
- If Sweden win by two or more goals, they are through, and that would mean Germany are guaranteed to qualify with any win (Mexico out).
- If Germany win by two or more goals they are through, with Sweden through with any win (Mexico out).
- If both Germany and Sweden win 1-0, the three teams would have identical records and it would go to head-to-head mini-league, and this would see Germany and Sweden through on goals scored. Mexico would be out by virtue of scoring one fewer goal in games between the three countries. First and second would be decided on Fair Play and at present Sweden's score is -3 and Germany's -5, so Sweden would finish top. Obviously this could change on the final matchday.
- If both Germany and Sweden win 2-1, then Sweden would win the group on head-to-head goals scored (they would have three goals in games between the three countries to Germany and Mexico's two). Second and third would be decided by Fair Play, and at present Mexico's score is -2 and Germany's -5 (Jerome Boateng's red card worth -3 the difference). Each yellow card is worth -1 so Mexico would be through unless they have several players booked or someone sent off compared to Germany.
- If both Germany and Sweden win 3-2 (or any higher one-goal identical margin of victory), then Sweden would win the group with Mexico second and Germany third on head-to-head mini-league goals scored.
- The only other way Mexico can go through, at the expense of Germany, if is both games are won by one goal, but Mexico's defeat against Sweden is a higher-scoring game.
- If Sweden win by one goal, and Germany win by one goal but in a higher-scoring game, Germany win the group with Sweden in second and Mexico out

THREE-WAY TIE FOR SECOND
- If South Korea win and Sweden lose there will be a three-way tie for second on three points for Germany, Sweden and South Korea. It will first come down to goal difference.
- If South Korea beat Germany by two goals, they are guaranteed to finish second
- If South Korea beat Germany 1-0 and Sweden lose 1-0 to Mexico, it will come down to Fair Play between Germany and Sweden with South Korea out on head-to-head goals scored. At present Sweden's score is -3 and Germany's -5, so Sweden best placed for second though that will change.
- If both games are won by the same one-goal margin other than 1-0, then Germany finish second on head-to-head goals scored.
- If South Korea beat Germany by a higher-scoring one-goal margin than Sweden lose to Mexico by, then South Korea would finish second on direct head-to-head against Germany with Sweden bottom.
- If Sweden lose to Mexico by a higher-scoring one-goal margin than South Korea beat Germany, then Sweden would finish second on goals scored.
- If Sweden lose by more than one goal, they cannot qualify, and South Korea would therefore finish second with any victory

This is just doing my head in. 

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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Excellent display by Sweden.

Lonegunmen
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Excellent display by South Korea too!

164 games  164 games

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Germany deserved to be kicked out.

Lachyloolaa
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As hard as it is to believe I predicted Germany would crash out of the World Cup in the group stages. I even got $20 from a German friend who doubted my prediction

                                                                     

Christchurch Rangers
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Germany gone burgers! who would have thought...from champs to chumps in 4 years

Lachyloolaa
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Germany gone burgers! who would have thought...from champs to chumps in 4 years

Same happened to Italy and Spain as well. Looks like it's cursed now

                                                                     

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Lachyloolaa wrote:

Germany gone burgers! who would have thought...from champs to chumps in 4 years

Same happened to Italy and Spain as well. Looks like it's cursed now

and France

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Also quirky is the fact that no winner of the Confederations Cup have won the World Cup the following year.

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