Group B: POR | ESP | MAR | IRN

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Are the Iranians trying to fight the ref? This is bizarre.

el grapadura
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Some finish in this group. Portugal went from cruising to win the group, to almost being eliminated if that Iranian shot deep into injury time had hit the other side of the net.

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I thought that once the linesman gives his decision that it can’t be over turned by VAR (re Spain late equaliser vs Morocco). 

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D-Sidi wrote:

I thought that once the linesman gives his decision that it can’t be over turned by VAR (re Spain late equaliser vs Morocco). 

From what I understand, that only applies if AR/Referee make the offside call before the goal is scored (here the flag was raised after the goal was scored).

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el grapadura wrote:

D-Sidi wrote:

I thought that once the linesman gives his decision that it can’t be over turned by VAR (re Spain late equaliser vs Morocco). 

From what I understand, that only applies if AR/Referee make the offside call before the goal is scored (here the flag was raised after the goal was scored).

This, what the ARs have been instructed to do now is remember if it is offside and keep flag down till either the goal is score or it misses and then flag. If they are right, all ok but if they were wrong as in this case then it allows the goal to stand.

Player: "What bloody game are you watching ref?"

Ref: "The one where you've had three shots and haven't hit the target."

Hows my refereeing? Whine Here

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good on Iran for fighting all the way. Portugal v Uruguay should be very interesting.

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Ronaldo may be an excellent footballer but he's a bit of a sneaky weasel imo

Too bad Iran are out: was hoping they get a run on

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Yakcall wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

D-Sidi wrote:

I thought that once the linesman gives his decision that it can’t be over turned by VAR (re Spain late equaliser vs Morocco). 

From what I understand, that only applies if AR/Referee make the offside call before the goal is scored (here the flag was raised after the goal was scored).

This, what the ARs have been instructed to do now is remember if it is offside and keep flag down till either the goal is score or it misses and then flag. If they are right, all ok but if they were wrong as in this case then it allows the goal to stand.

And this sometimes causes issues; case in point (I think SUI v CRC), player in white was 2 yards offside, linesman didn't flag despite what looked a clear decision, player went into box, got fouled, ref blew whistle, a different white player gets booked for not sure what, ref indicates pen, red player gets book for arguing it was clearly offside (or maybe for the foul, not sure) VAR overturns penalty in favour of offside.

Right result, BUT two players needlessly booked and potentially banned for a game because linesman didn't have balls to make a call.

Arguably players could have (should have) kept mouths shut, but other scenarios could play out;  player booked for the foul for a tackle he would never make if the flag was raised (not entirely sure this didn't happen for the red player), Players may have picked up an injury in a tackle which didn't Need to be made, maybe foul never occurs and play continues for a while in and around the box with no other incidents happening, ball pops out to white out in space, new phase begins, White have another opportunity.. maybe White (earlier offside offenders) win a corner...no VAR review now as no goal scored. white might score from corner in which case VAR only looks from the corner.

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