New Zealand Women's U-17s

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Congratulations girls, first ever WC semi final appearance for a New Zealand side!

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bennie99 wrote:

Tough draw with Japan but there's no doubt they've done extremely well at this torny already. I'd expect a number of this squad to form the heart of the Football Ferns the way the 2008 side has done for the past 4-5 years.



I think this age group is too young for statements like that... and not so sure your comparison is correct either:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_FIFA_U-17_Women...

Maybe 4 of these 21 I can spot in the ferns today?

Don't get me wrong - they are doing fantastic! But at U17 level they have still got a long way to go :)

Pretty sure more than 4 have played for the Ferns at one time or another though.....

But anyway woohoo, amazing result.

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Wow, a NZ Women's team beat Japan? Ummm....

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Khalil Media wrote:

Wow, a NZ Women's team beat Japan? Ummm....

Nobody tell Heraf! 

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Semi-final vs Spain at 8am on Thursday. 

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So cool, great effort

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Great game, fantastic result! Congrats to everyone involved.

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Our keeper was excellent - her penalty save was top notch as was her coming off the line.

Must be pushing for a case of being the goal keeper of the tournament. I feel a little sorry for our #9 - has a very good touch for a tall girl and looks to link well, but is constantly not being hit when we play direct.

Also our RB looks very good, not technical, but wins every challenge and quick.

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Yes Leat was terrific, stepping up to take the 5th pen shows her confidence.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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Womens football in NZ has been for a long time now showing the male side of the game how things can be done.  Wish more people understood this. 

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Our right back is Mackenzie Barry from Central. Taranaki girl I think. She has had one hell of a tournament. A star of the future but I believe there will be many of those from this group.

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Result! Is this the first semi final apparance for any kiwi team?  I'm sure it is, well done.

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Marto wrote:

Result! Is this the first semi final apparance for any kiwi team?  I'm sure it is, well done.

Yes it is.

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AlfStamp wrote:

Womens football in NZ has been for a long time now showing the male side of the game how things can be done.  Wish more people understood this. 

Agree but with one major caveat. The strength in depth of the international men's football, compared to international women's football is still poles apart. The FFs scorelines at the OFC Nations Cup in Noumea continue to highlight this. 

Also travel through somewhere like South America, and you can't help but note the huge resources & money thrown at men's sport ie football, in comparison to women's sport.

It seemed pretty much the same when I travelled through Africa (admittedly 20 years ago). Then you have some Muslim countries, where it's very hard for women to participate in any type of sport or exercise. 

Thankfully the world is slowly changing, and situation for women & girls is improving for the better worldwide. But at the moment the men's international game is still far stronger in depth. 

Well done girls, awesome result against Japan and good luck against Spain.

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coochiee wrote:

AlfStamp wrote:

Womens football in NZ has been for a long time now showing the male side of the game how things can be done.  Wish more people understood this. 

Agree but with one major caveat. The strength in depth of the international men's football, compared to international women's football is still poles apart. The FFs scorelines at the OFC Nations Cup in Noumea continue to highlight this. 

Also travel through somewhere like South America, and you can't help but note the huge resources & money thrown at men's sport ie football, in comparison to women's sport.

It seemed pretty much the same when I travelled through Africa (admittedly 20 years ago). Then you have some Muslim countries, where it's very hard for women to participate in any type of sport or exercise. 

Thankfully the world is slowly changing, and situation for women & girls is improving for the better worldwide. But at the moment the men's international game is still far stronger in depth. 

Well done girls, awesome result against Japan and good luck against Spain.

 I wasnt really thinking about the  things you are talking about. I was thinking of how the womens game has been an earlier adopter of player focussed coaching systems than the mens game, an earlier adopter of processes the AB's use (for example) with respect to leadership, responsibility and accountability being something the players are more involved in. I was thinking more along the lines of coaching methods being more in line with guided discovery learning principles which have long been proven to result in retention of knowledge and understanding much better than the old school " stop, stand still, demonstrate ideas. Also the club v school thing not being an issue with the schoolgirls playing on Wednesday afternoons and how this doesnt have anywhere near as big an effect on players training and playing pressures as the boys game experiences. Not everything is perfect but there is more of a general movement to improvement rather than the relentless and mind numbingly stupid egos in the male game pulling in different directions because everyone thinks they know better than the other person. The womens game has a better level of cohesion with respect to the most important aspects which is simply moving forward with coaching systems and philosophies.

less ego, more smarts. 

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AlfStamp wrote:

coochiee wrote:

AlfStamp wrote:

Womens football in NZ has been for a long time now showing the male side of the game how things can be done.  Wish more people understood this. 

Agree but with one major caveat. The strength in depth of the international men's football, compared to international women's football is still poles apart. The FFs scorelines at the OFC Nations Cup in Noumea continue to highlight this. 

Also travel through somewhere like South America, and you can't help but note the huge resources & money thrown at men's sport ie football, in comparison to women's sport.

It seemed pretty much the same when I travelled through Africa (admittedly 20 years ago). Then you have some Muslim countries, where it's very hard for women to participate in any type of sport or exercise. 

Thankfully the world is slowly changing, and situation for women & girls is improving for the better worldwide. But at the moment the men's international game is still far stronger in depth. 

Well done girls, awesome result against Japan and good luck against Spain.

 I wasnt really thinking about the  things you are talking about. I was thinking of how the womens game has been an earlier adopter of player focussed coaching systems than the mens game, an earlier adopter of processes the AB's use (for example) with respect to leadership, responsibility and accountability being something the players are more involved in. I was thinking more along the lines of coaching methods being more in line with guided discovery learning principles which have long been proven to result in retention of knowledge and understanding much better than the old school " stop, stand still, demonstrate ideas. Also the club v school thing not being an issue with the schoolgirls playing on Wednesday afternoons and how this doesnt have anywhere near as big an effect on players training and playing pressures as the boys game experiences. Not everything is perfect but there is more of a general movement to improvement rather than the relentless and mind numbingly stupid egos in the male game pulling in different directions because everyone thinks they know better than the other person. The womens game has a better level of cohesion with respect to the most important aspects which is simply moving forward with coaching systems and philosophies.

less ego, more smarts. 

The men's game fund the women's game. Where did you think the money came from for the Japan friendly the other month. 
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Royz wrote:

AlfStamp wrote:

coochiee wrote:

AlfStamp wrote:

Womens football in NZ has been for a long time now showing the male side of the game how things can be done.  Wish more people understood this. 

Agree but with one major caveat. The strength in depth of the international men's football, compared to international women's football is still poles apart. The FFs scorelines at the OFC Nations Cup in Noumea continue to highlight this. 

Also travel through somewhere like South America, and you can't help but note the huge resources & money thrown at men's sport ie football, in comparison to women's sport.

It seemed pretty much the same when I travelled through Africa (admittedly 20 years ago). Then you have some Muslim countries, where it's very hard for women to participate in any type of sport or exercise. 

Thankfully the world is slowly changing, and situation for women & girls is improving for the better worldwide. But at the moment the men's international game is still far stronger in depth. 

Well done girls, awesome result against Japan and good luck against Spain.

 I wasnt really thinking about the  things you are talking about. I was thinking of how the womens game has been an earlier adopter of player focussed coaching systems than the mens game, an earlier adopter of processes the AB's use (for example) with respect to leadership, responsibility and accountability being something the players are more involved in. I was thinking more along the lines of coaching methods being more in line with guided discovery learning principles which have long been proven to result in retention of knowledge and understanding much better than the old school " stop, stand still, demonstrate ideas. Also the club v school thing not being an issue with the schoolgirls playing on Wednesday afternoons and how this doesnt have anywhere near as big an effect on players training and playing pressures as the boys game experiences. Not everything is perfect but there is more of a general movement to improvement rather than the relentless and mind numbingly stupid egos in the male game pulling in different directions because everyone thinks they know better than the other person. The womens game has a better level of cohesion with respect to the most important aspects which is simply moving forward with coaching systems and philosophies.

less ego, more smarts. 

The men's game fund the women's game. Where did you think the money came from for the Japan friendly the other month. 

Good grief.... 

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Royz wrote:

AlfStamp wrote:

coochiee wrote:

AlfStamp wrote:

Womens football in NZ has been for a long time now showing the male side of the game how things can be done.  Wish more people understood this. 

Agree but with one major caveat. The strength in depth of the international men's football, compared to international women's football is still poles apart. The FFs scorelines at the OFC Nations Cup in Noumea continue to highlight this. 

Also travel through somewhere like South America, and you can't help but note the huge resources & money thrown at men's sport ie football, in comparison to women's sport.

It seemed pretty much the same when I travelled through Africa (admittedly 20 years ago). Then you have some Muslim countries, where it's very hard for women to participate in any type of sport or exercise. 

Thankfully the world is slowly changing, and situation for women & girls is improving for the better worldwide. But at the moment the men's international game is still far stronger in depth. 

Well done girls, awesome result against Japan and good luck against Spain.

 I wasnt really thinking about the  things you are talking about. I was thinking of how the womens game has been an earlier adopter of player focussed coaching systems than the mens game, an earlier adopter of processes the AB's use (for example) with respect to leadership, responsibility and accountability being something the players are more involved in. I was thinking more along the lines of coaching methods being more in line with guided discovery learning principles which have long been proven to result in retention of knowledge and understanding much better than the old school " stop, stand still, demonstrate ideas. Also the club v school thing not being an issue with the schoolgirls playing on Wednesday afternoons and how this doesnt have anywhere near as big an effect on players training and playing pressures as the boys game experiences. Not everything is perfect but there is more of a general movement to improvement rather than the relentless and mind numbingly stupid egos in the male game pulling in different directions because everyone thinks they know better than the other person. The womens game has a better level of cohesion with respect to the most important aspects which is simply moving forward with coaching systems and philosophies.

less ego, more smarts. 

The men's game fund the women's game. Where did you think the money came from for the Japan friendly the other month. 

How is 1952?

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Pre-work footy brekkie :-)   any ideas on venue anyone??

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