All Whites Nations Cup squad

I'm still expecting us to win this.

The Island nations aren't that strong.

And there are enough players in the NZ squad who play regularly at a decent enough level in the A-League or UK or Euro leagues, South Africa etc.

At a level far superior to the lowly Vanuatu, Solomons and Fijian leagues of our group stage opponents 

And good to see Tommy Smith finally given the shove for good:

Hudson: "While Tommy has not been able to commit to us again, and as a result I will not be selecting him for the All Whites going forward. It is too disruptive to our preparation.”

My starting eleven:

                                                         Marinovic

           Fenton                Boxall                Brotherton              Kolvey

   McGlinchey                Tuiloma                   Tzimopolous         Barbarouses

                                        Wood                          Rojas  

I just hope that injuries don't mean that Moses Dyer ever gets on the field or that Hudson-Wihongi, Lewis, or Rogerson have to be called on much. 

I don't mind Hudson-Wihongi, Ridenton, Doyle or Lewis getting a ten minute run in games as subs. Luke Adams I've not seen so I don't have an opinion.

Similarly, up front it's useful to have Smeltz and Fallon to call on as subs for their experience and Patterson showed promise at last year's u-20 World Cup so it's good he's in the mix.

In goal, for me it's between Marinovic and Williams and it might be a close call for the coaching staff.

All Whites in Sweden not selected:

Dan Keat is out injured at GAIS in Sweden and hasn't played yet in their seven games this new season.

But Craig Henderson is fully fit and starting every game for GAIS.

Better he stay and establish a run of matches at club level though for his career's sake after a long spell injured.

Otherwise he should be in PNG ahead of Dyer, Hudson-Wihongi or Lewis as an attacking midfielder.

(I've seen enough of all those players to know who the better player is) 

Stephen Old is also starting every game for GAIS at centre-back.

I don't think anyone here is arguing that the island nations are really strong and that that's the reason for pessimism, but mainly that the squad that's been picked, along with a whole host of circumstances around this tournament, has us teetering on the edge of disaster without a ball being kicked in anger yet.

At least we won't be disqualified result of off-field screw-ups.... or then again...

And we are making the assumption that he would have wanted to come back.  He never said the words himself, so he may have flatout refused the call up

My XI:

Marinovic

Doyle Boxall Themi Colvey

McGlinchey Tuiloma Ridenton

Barba Wood Rojas

Interesting to see no Boyd - flitting between Portugal #1 and #2 leagues still a lot better than some of what we picked.

Also frustrating to see no Scandinavian representatives. Old would have allowed Themi to sit in mid with Bill (or Dura I suppose)

Still, not too late for an injury or two to free up a spot or something... 

Does anyone know what kind of forwards guys like Patterson and Rogerson are? Wide forwards or CFs?

Would Chris James or Nikko Boxall be getting game time, BP65?

Dan Keat is out injured from pre-season with Gotenburg

The weather, pitch, and refs are all likely to be massive levellers and we have very inexperienced defenders and midfielders

Covered in Kiwi's Overseas every week on the pod.  Have a listen. 

Both are getting regular match time, Chris James in Finnish Div 2 for FC Haka.  He is vice-captain.  Nikko in Finnish top division for VPS.  Getting regular minutes, but not always starting

From what I've seen; Monty Panesar Patterson was a winger and is now more or less a secondary striker/attacking midfielder. I guess not too far removed from Marco or Ryan Thomas. He looked pretty quick and skilful......was a catalyst for the NZ U20s

Logan Rogerson reminds me of an Anthony Martial-esque player (please not the "esque"!) in that he can play as a wide forward (which he has done for Phoenix Reserves in the ASBP), but plays more centrally for his age-group sides (either the main or the deep lying striker)

Just back from a break in Noosa to this crap squad but it still should be good enough to win the Nations Cup. Would have to agree with the comments about Dyer watched him play for Onehunga and he lived up to his name.This has to be the worst AWs squad ever but we new it was coming, Hudson is a joke but like I said we will still qualify and all will be forgiven.

I'm actually a bit nervous about this tournament.  It has been four years, and we haven't learnt a single thing from Honiara.  The build up is inarguably worse, the squad is probably worse, we don't have a midfield pairing and are going to have to experiment during the tournament again...

this ^^^^. I think we are going to get the Humpty Dumpty. Too inexperienced, and just not good enough to. Don't rate the Patterson kid one bit. Lewis not a bad player but not up to this level hold his own asb but that's not international football. Wood as skipper? Not much inspiring there. Keepers are all unproven as is the backline. Honiara all over. Re watch that new cale game from 2012 ....

when the addition of Steven old to a squad would raise its overall quality you know your in trouble

Still in theory even with this squad we should be comfortably the best team, as long as we can mark Roy out of the game...

the 2012 squad

That looks a lot stronger than the current one, that's for sure

This couldn't be more true. There has been no preparation for the tournament, the squad is inexperienced in most places (GK, DF, MF) and perhaps some are too experienced in other places (Rory Fallon?). On top of all that, it'll be humid and hot weather which we are not accustomed to.

The only positive I can take from this squad is thank goodness Jeremy Brockie hasn't been called up.

Because who needs a striker with 19 goals in their last 40 games aye

Regardless of form he's never shown up for the national team. If in previous regional tournaments he's been unable to score against minnow nations, I couldn't see much changing here either. You have to be able to rely on your strikers and wingers, and we sure as hell were never able to do that with Brockie.

proven in his 40 odd appearances to be a donkey for the national team , thankfully no call up for brockie

my concerns.

Where is Gleeson?

Adams?

Brotherson?

Doyle?

Fenton?

Dyer?

Ridenton?

Rogerson?

Smeltz?

Fallon?

So for you, are the likes of Patterson and Rogerson more reliable than Brockie? Don't get me wrong I see your point, but in a short tournament like this I'd prefer to have forwards who have a recent history of putting the ball in the back of the net

2012's squad, brought back to play together again at this tournament would be a stronger squad than what Hudson has picked.

I hope all of the players selected are actually eligible to play for New Zealand eh?

Does Williams still have a kiwi passport? Wasn't there talk he might have had to give it up for his Dutch one?

And the 2012 squad only won 3 of its 5 games at that tournament.

I suspect that Chris Killen c2012  was probably a better midfielder than Dyer is now too

Rumour is that is why there is no De Vries or Musa.

I thought De Vries had been granted an exemption now though?

it's an utter embarrassment how far NZ has fallen since the World Cup in 2010, absolute shambles. Testimony that have yet to read or hear a positive comment about the current squad selection

Testament to our current CEO and Manager.

It's not too dissimilar from the team that went unbeaten through the World Cup. I'd say if Paston hadn't been kicked in the head we would have cake walked through. Who else was injured? Smeltz? 

That's why it was such a shock. I guess we were all thinking about our confed cup tactics and then...

Who knows, perhaps a team where this is their greatest event to date and who has no other successes to boast of at all and very few names among them will do better?

He's been playing DM for his club his season

Mate I know. Moses Dyer. Northern League. Laughable. Was one of it not the weakest in the u20's and I don't remember seeing him playing ASB Prem for anyone?!! 

1. Hudson says there is a status committee now looking at player eligibility. Ok but how are we still unsure about de vries and musa. Still a shambles that if they are in the mix nzf hasnt gotten exemptions. 2. Moses dyer was onw of the worst players at the under 20 world cup. Seriously cannot believe his selection. No ASBP at all either

No I don't remember seeing him either, was he even in a wider training squad? or has he not been playing football for the past 6 months (prior to northern league starting) 

How can anyone who hasn't even played at the very lowest ASB Premiership be selected?

listening to Hudson on Radiosport re Winston- he said he'd only be available for the group games and miss the semi and final. Can anyone explain why? Is the window shorter than the tournament and is Hudson implying that WHFC would have called him back? 

Yes and that team could not get it done. Granted it seems the coaching was lax but if that team could not get it done, I am really surprised to see people thinking our team should get it done. 

New Caledonia to win it.

midfield looks weak