Portugal squad for Confeds named - looks really strong, especially when you see the clubs they play for:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/world-game/9...
Players from Barca, Real Madrid, Monaco, Southampton, West Ham, Valencia, Dortmund as well as the top Portuguese clubs.
Going to be great to test ourselves against a football superpower. Also excited to see how the boys will react, it's crazy thinking Colvey's going to be chasing after Ronaldo and Patterson will be man marked by Pepe.
Ronaldo plays every game he can, he will play us if he's fit.
Wicked - that will be a good watch.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/93021132/confederations-cup-what-our-writers-make-of-the-all-whites-chances
Our Confeds Cup opponents & other teams' friendlies from the last week:
Videos of full matches here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoX4oS_cq6oPqXeCJ...
Highlights:
Russia beat Hungary 3-0 away on Tuesday am NZT
Highlights:
http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2017/06/05/hung...
Portugal vs. Cyprus highlights (Spanish commentary is wonderfully nuts!):
http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2017/06/03/port...
Mexico vs. Ireland highlights:
http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2017/06/02/mexi...
Russia's record since Euro 2016 (all friendlies):
P: 7 W: 3 D: 2 L: 2
Russia's record this year only:
P: 3 W: 1 D: 1 L: 1
28/3/17 vs. Ivory Coast lost 2-0 H
28/3/17 vs. Belgium drew 3-3 H
5/6/17 vs. Hungary won 3-0 A
Russia play Chile in a friendly 4 am NZT Saturday
Squad Confirmed
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/hudson-confirms-confed...
All Whites squad for the FIFA Confederations Cup (Club, Country, Caps, Goals)
Goalkeepers
Stefan Marinovic (SpVgg Unterhaching, Germany) 15, 0
Tamati Williams (RKC Waalwijk, Netherlands) 1, 0
Glen Moss (Newcastle Jets, Australia) 29, 0
Defenders
Andrew Durante (Wellington Phoenix, New Zealand) 16, 0
Thomas Doyle (Wellington Phoenix, New Zealand) 5, 0
Storm Roux (Central Coast Mariners, Australia) 7, 0
Michael Boxall (SuperSport Utd, South Africa) 23, 0
Kip Colvey (San Jose Earthquakes FC, USA) 9, 0
Themi Tzimopoulos (PAS Giannina FC, Greece) 10, 1
Deklan Wynne (Vancouver Whitecaps FC, Canada) 8, 0
Sam Brotherton (Sunderland AFC, England) 7, 0
Tommy Smith (Ipswich Town FC, England) 32, 2
Dane Ingham (Brisbane Roar FC, Australia) 1, 0
Midfielders
Bill Tuiloma (Marseille, France) 17, 0
Clayton Lewis (Auckland City FC, New Zealand) 9, 0
Michael McGlinchey (Wellington Phoenix, New Zealand) 43, 4
Ryan Thomas (PEC Zwolle, Netherlands) 10, 2
Marco Rojas (Melbourne Victory FC, Australia) 33, 5
Alex Rufer (Wellington Phoenix, New Zealand) 3, 0
Forwards
Chris Wood (c) (Leeds Utd, England) 48, 19
Monty Patterson (Ipswich Town FC, England) 10, 1
Shane Smeltz (Borneo FC, Indonesia) 54, 24
Kosta Barbarouses (unattached) 38, 3
All Whites pre-FIFA Confederations Cup
12 June v Belarus in Minsk, Belarus (13 June NZT)
Live on SKY Sport
2017 FIFA Confederations Cup – All Whites draw
17 June 6pm (3am 18 June NZT) v Russia, Krestovsky Stadium, St Petersburg
21 June 9pm (6am 22 June NZT) v Mexico Fisht Olympic Stadium, Sochi
24 June 6pm (3am 25 June NZT) v Portugal, Krestovsky Stadium, St Petersburg
Live on SKY Sport
Rufer should buy a Lotto ticket.
It's just not an All Whites team for a major tournament or match without a player from Unattached F.C. selected. Fantastic to see Hudson continue the tradition.
Good luck to Hudson and the boys, I like hudson and what he's trying to do for the team
It's just not an All Whites team for a major tournament or match without a player from Unattached F.C. selected. Fantastic to see Hudson continue the tradition.
It's just not an All Whites team for a major tournament or match without a player from Unattached F.C. selected. Fantastic to see Hudson continue the tradition.
Great to see Costa go out of his way to sign for them!
Everything said and done it's Russia on Sunday!
Let's hope we are prepared.
Hudsons master plan is working beautifully....we've lulled the opposition into thinking that we aren't up to much...now we will strike at the Confederation Cup to shock the world...I could be highly optimistic though with that thinking ?
These bunny teams are next
http://footyroom.com/matches/79912235/portugal-vs-...
Tiny glimmer of hope for AWs is that defensive errors lead to 2-3 of the goals
Flipside of that is they are both capable of capitalising on our errors. Chicharito will gobble up our defenders' poor touches and weak clearances.
I like that they have been profiling a member of the squad. I wish they would do a proper check of the info before they release it to the world - putting Tommysmiths twitter handle is a bit dumb.
If he wasn't a footballer he'd be a property manager?
Jeepers
Australia needing a 2-0 win to progress to semis, are 1-0 up at half time over Chile! Is an action packed high class game. Any folks who think AWs would match up well against Socceroos, are sorry in fairy land.
Apart from an aged Cahill, they have no big star names, but I'd say well coached with Ange Pot, and pretty consistent high quality across the field. No A League journeymen, or guys playing French 4th Division. Some youngest guys like Rogic, Mooy & Matt Ryan (now signed by EPL promoted Brighton) who have all come out the A League who could become stars in Europe.
But then with 5x NZ's popn, and large longstanding immigrant football communities (Greek, Italian, Slavic etc) they should be a much better side than us. I'd say only Thomas would go close to making a Socceroos starting eleven.
Australia needing a 2-0 win to progress to semis, are 1-0 up at half time over Chile! Is an action packed high class game. Any folks who think AWs would match up well against Socceroos, are sorry in fairy land.
Apart from an aged Cahill, they have no big star names, but I'd say well coached with Ange Pot, and pretty consistent high quality across the field. No A League journeymen, or guys playing French 4th Division. Some youngest guys like Rogic, Mooy & Matt Ryan (now signed by EPL promoted Brighton) who have all come out the A League who could become stars in Europe.
But then with 5x NZ's popn, and large longstanding immigrant football communities (Greek, Italian, Slavic etc) they should be a much better side than us. I'd say only Thomas would go close to making a Socceroos starting eleven.
Reid
Australia needing a 2-0 win to progress to semis, are 1-0 up at half time over Chile! Is an action packed high class game. Any folks who think AWs would match up well against Socceroos, are sorry in fairy land.
Apart from an aged Cahill, they have no big star names, but I'd say well coached with Ange Pot, and pretty consistent high quality across the field. No A League journeymen, or guys playing French 4th Division. Some youngest guys like Rogic, Mooy & Matt Ryan (now signed by EPL promoted Brighton) who have all come out the A League who could become stars in Europe.
But then with 5x NZ's popn, and large longstanding immigrant football communities (Greek, Italian, Slavic etc) they should be a much better side than us. I'd say only Thomas would go close to making a Socceroos starting eleven.
Reid
Ooops, forgot Winston. Yes true undoubtedly.
Finished 1-1. Australia were unlucky, and really went toe to toe with South America's top side.
Poor finishing let them down when they were 1-0 up. Kruse & McLaren missed clear cut chances from memory.
Australia needing a 2-0 win to progress to semis, are 1-0 up at half time over Chile! Is an action packed high class game. Any folks who think AWs would match up well against Socceroos, are sorry in fairy land.
Apart from an aged Cahill, they have no big star names, but I'd say well coached with Ange Pot, and pretty consistent high quality across the field. No A League journeymen, or guys playing French 4th Division. Some youngest guys like Rogic, Mooy & Matt Ryan (now signed by EPL promoted Brighton) who have all come out the A League who could become stars in Europe.
But then with 5x NZ's popn, and large longstanding immigrant football communities (Greek, Italian, Slavic etc) they should be a much better side than us. I'd say only Thomas would go close to making a Socceroos starting eleven.
Reid
DFS had a pod a few months back where they argued about how many of our boys they would take. I think they settled on Reid, Wood and Rojas. They were lamenting the fact that these guys were all better than anyone they had in those positions. I reckon Smith and Thomas would be close to the starting line up too, so that's 5 guys you could make an argument for.
Hudson and NZ should now go all out to get a match v the Socceroos in the October window.
Australia needing a 2-0 win to progress to semis, are 1-0 up at half time over Chile! Is an action packed high class game. Any folks who think AWs would match up well against Socceroos, are sorry in fairy land.
Apart from an aged Cahill, they have no big star names, but I'd say well coached with Ange Pot, and pretty consistent high quality across the field. No A League journeymen, or guys playing French 4th Division. Some youngest guys like Rogic, Mooy & Matt Ryan (now signed by EPL promoted Brighton) who have all come out the A League who could become stars in Europe.
But then with 5x NZ's popn, and large longstanding immigrant football communities (Greek, Italian, Slavic etc) they should be a much better side than us. I'd say only Thomas would go close to making a Socceroos starting eleven.
Reid
DFS had a pod a few months back where they argued about how many of our boys they would take. I think they settled on Reid, Wood and Rojas. They were lamenting the fact that these guys were all better than anyone they had in those positions. I reckon Smith and Thomas would be close to the starting line up too, so that's 5 guys you could make an argument for.
Australia needing a 2-0 win to progress to semis, are 1-0 up at half time over Chile! Is an action packed high class game. Any folks who think AWs would match up well against Socceroos, are sorry in fairy land.
Apart from an aged Cahill, they have no big star names, but I'd say well coached with Ange Pot, and pretty consistent high quality across the field. No A League journeymen, or guys playing French 4th Division. Some youngest guys like Rogic, Mooy & Matt Ryan (now signed by EPL promoted Brighton) who have all come out the A League who could become stars in Europe.
But then with 5x NZ's popn, and large longstanding immigrant football communities (Greek, Italian, Slavic etc) they should be a much better side than us. I'd say only Thomas would go close to making a Socceroos starting eleven.
Reid
DFS had a pod a few months back where they argued about how many of our boys they would take. I think they settled on Reid, Wood and Rojas. They were lamenting the fact that these guys were all better than anyone they had in those positions. I reckon Smith and Thomas would be close to the starting line up too, so that's 5 guys you could make an argument for.
Smith certainly improved and showed his quality to be honest.
Smith certainly improved and showed his quality to be honest.
Aussie still have to play Japan.
Australia needing a 2-0 win to progress to semis, are 1-0 up at half time over Chile! Is an action packed high class game. Any folks who think AWs would match up well against Socceroos, are sorry in fairy land.
Apart from an aged Cahill, they have no big star names, but I'd say well coached with Ange Pot, and pretty consistent high quality across the field. No A League journeymen, or guys playing French 4th Division. Some youngest guys like Rogic, Mooy & Matt Ryan (now signed by EPL promoted Brighton) who have all come out the A League who could become stars in Europe.
But then with 5x NZ's popn, and large longstanding immigrant football communities (Greek, Italian, Slavic etc) they should be a much better side than us. I'd say only Thomas would go close to making a Socceroos starting eleven.
Think you are right, but to be fair, we know have 2 players in the EPL, 1 at Celtic. 3 in Champions league England, 2 in Bundesliaga , and some in the J league, K league and C league ... most come through the A-League .
Also on the fringe of this side is Goodwin & Amini & Abini to name but a few knocking on the door, plus Burns and Holland .
AP has built a huge squad with 3 players for every position.
We played Germany the current world champions, and lost 3-2, we played the champions of Africa and drew in an even match, we played the number 4 ranked team in the world and drew.
The over all score was 5-4, we finished 3 in the group of death with a one goal minus.
Our key matches coming up are
Aust V Japan 31 August away
Aust V Thailand 3 September home.
Suard'e V Iraq away
Suard's V Japan home.
Table
Japan 19 points
SA 16 points
Aus 16 points
There is a one goal difference between SA & Australia on the table
There is some talk if we make it throught the group stage to the WC to play Iran .
TBH I think the key among other things is a team FFA can make lots and lots of money from meaning filling Suncorp, Homebush or one of the southern states stadiums ... meaning a 50K + crowd with high ticket prices and I don't see the AW's doing this
Australia needing a 2-0 win to progress to semis, are 1-0 up at half time over Chile! Is an action packed high class game. Any folks who think AWs would match up well against Socceroos, are sorry in fairy land.
Apart from an aged Cahill, they have no big star names, but I'd say well coached with Ange Pot, and pretty consistent high quality across the field. No A League journeymen, or guys playing French 4th Division. Some youngest guys like Rogic, Mooy & Matt Ryan (now signed by EPL promoted Brighton) who have all come out the A League who could become stars in Europe.
But then with 5x NZ's popn, and large longstanding immigrant football communities (Greek, Italian, Slavic etc) they should be a much better side than us. I'd say only Thomas would go close to making a Socceroos starting eleven.
Reid
DFS had a pod a few months back where they argued about how many of our boys they would take. I think they settled on Reid, Wood and Rojas. They were lamenting the fact that these guys were all better than anyone they had in those positions. I reckon Smith and Thomas would be close to the starting line up too, so that's 5 guys you could make an argument for.
The midget Rojas no chance. He may stand out at Victory but is only the A League. Australia's wingers are fast & big (esp Leckie), and are playing at higher levels. Leckie in Bundesliga, Kruse in Chinese Super League (after number years in Germany), Behich (Turkish Super League).
I also don't think Wood would suit style Socceroos play. In short 2 AWs (Thomas & Reid) definitely good enough to play for Australia. Wood & Smith outside beats.
In summary Australia are just playing a few classes above AWs, and Ange Pot has been coaching his style longer, plus has had a lot more high quality games last 4 years to fine tune it. They really should have beaten a full strength Chile (who admittedly only needed a draw to progress). Neither Rogic or Mooy played last night and yet still had the quality to push Chileans all the way. I'd pick a comfortable 2-0 win over AWs, and potentially lot worse if Reid unavailable.
Still be great to see the two sides match up in October. Hopefully FFA are generous enough to give NZF a game, provided Socceroos already qualified for Russia 2018.
There is some talk if we make it throught the group stage to the WC to play Iran .
TBH I think the key among other things is a team FFA can make lots and lots of money from meaning filling Suncorp, Homebush or one of the southern states stadiums ... meaning a 50K + crowd with high ticket prices and I don't see the AW's doing this
[/quote] Come October the Socceroos will have limited choice (like us) if they want some friendlies in Australia. Doubt any of the bigger European teams will fly all the way to Oz for a games essentially means nothing, when club seasons will all be in full swing. Club managers won't like that. CONEMBOL & CONCACAF qualifying rounds will rule out Americas sides.
A few years ago lowly South Africa played in Sydney - so FFA have had to accept less quality teams in the past.
Of course if Socceroos were to schedule friendlies in Europe, or only finish 3rd in their Asian pool, then no chance of a AWs match.
Alternative for AWs could be another camp in the States and a friendly against someone like Jamaica - who are not involved in CONCACAF final round qualifying, but still a useful side (FIFA ranking 79th) - though undoubtedly a step down from South America's 5th team or even Socceroos.
^^^^^^
Japan, Korea, Iran would all be looking for games if they qualify ..
Japan would fill the MCG, Korea & Iran would be huge draw cards...
Ummm.........I disagree somewhat. I think risk of Socceroos fans having 'Asian fatigue'. Yes for sure a full house at say Docklands (50,000) for WC qualifier with meaning, verus any of those Asian nations.
For a friendly against an AFC side that Australia already play fairly regularly I'm not so sure. Put it this way you'd get a fair contingent of AWs fans for a game in either Melbourne or Sydney.
I went to the pre 2010 WC friendly at MCG, between Socceroos & AWs and the crowd was 60,000 plus from memory. Admittedly was a World Cup farewell for both sides who had already qualified, and NZ football was on a high from the Bahrain game.
Ummm.........I disagree somewhat. I think risk of Socceroos fans having 'Asian fatigue'. Yes for sure a full house at say Docklands (50,000) for WC qualifier with meaning, verus any of those Asian nations.
For a friendly against an AFC side that Australia already play fairly regularly I'm not so sure. Put it this way you'd get a fair contingent of AWs fans for a game in either Melbourne or Sydney.
I went to the pre 2010 WC friendly at MCG, between Socceroos & AWs and the crowd was 60,000 plus from memory. Admittedly was a World Cup farewell for both sides who had already qualified, and NZ football was on a high from the Bahrain game.
Not disagreeing simply saying what I think would be FFA thinking.
BTW correction to my table above..
Japan 17 points 9 + goal difference
Saudi's 16 points 7 + goal difference
Aust 16 points 6 + goal difference.
Very tight
Personally I can't wait for the All White's "Defeated" Confed Cup DVD
Australia needing a 2-0 win to progress to semis, are 1-0 up at half time over Chile! Is an action packed high class game. Any folks who think AWs would match up well against Socceroos, are sorry in fairy land.
Apart from an aged Cahill, they have no big star names, but I'd say well coached with Ange Pot, and pretty consistent high quality across the field. No A League journeymen, or guys playing French 4th Division. Some youngest guys like Rogic, Mooy & Matt Ryan (now signed by EPL promoted Brighton) who have all come out the A League who could become stars in Europe.
But then with 5x NZ's popn, and large longstanding immigrant football communities (Greek, Italian, Slavic etc) they should be a much better side than us. I'd say only Thomas would go close to making a Socceroos starting eleven.
Reid
DFS had a pod a few months back where they argued about how many of our boys they would take. I think they settled on Reid, Wood and Rojas. They were lamenting the fact that these guys were all better than anyone they had in those positions. I reckon Smith and Thomas would be close to the starting line up too, so that's 5 guys you could make an argument for.
As someone who was in Russia, Tommy was class on the pitch and off it. He played very well and really built bridges. His parents, along with Wood's and Thomas' were also very friendly and got amongst the 20 or so kiwi fans here.
while really enjoying my AW Road trip, Russia (beautiful place with some very nice people) and us playing very well against Mexico and Portugal, why did Themi not feature. I could not understand Hudson basically not playing him on this tour nor giving Roux a run at all, also Tuiloma looked good when he played but only ever used off the beach.
I can't help but think had Themi been out there either in DM or CB with either Roux or preferably Boxall at RB we might not have conceeded the winning goal for Mexico or a couple of goals against Portugal. I think Ingham will go on to be a good player for us but not yet. Should have stayed with the U20s to stop the hiding we had against The USA.
Should have stayed with the U20s to stop the hiding we had against France USA
