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3 games and no wins... so what needs to change??

Marinovich looks out of form and can be viewed at being at fault for a goal a game at the moment, with last nights decision being a shocker to come out.

Laws, is not a natural CB and it shows how he tracks runners and doesn't hold the line to create off sides, or how he allows his man to drift away.

Ridenton, just not as good as Rufer.

Sotorio, his lack of control has lead to two counter attacks and goals against us in two weeks. He's quick, but is a poor finisher and lacks technical ability.

Paine - Fenton offers more offensively.

The only other thing I want to see is if McGarry has a right foot. No excuses for a young professional in today's world to be so one footed. He's doing well, but it limits him.

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While we should remember that last year we had 4 losses on the trot to start off with, I think the predictions that this would be a garbage season not having home games are being borne out.

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at this point I got to question Devere. His weird decision to go al the up to the halfway and get so easily beaten was a bit weird for a player of his experience. In saying that he’s probably needed as TAWH and Laws are both young still. I like Payne and Mcgary, both tried yesterday. Sotirio is Sotirio and I am not sure why people criticise him if they know his game, it’s not new. Piscopo may make an influence when he returns. I think people need to give the Jets some credit also, they had a clear game plan, which was to use pace up front with Yuel or Odonoven being their main target and did it extremely effectively, and could have scored a few more playing on the counter. I wouldn’t panic yet, I think next few games will determine where we are. Man to man we are better than the Mariners and Sydney don’t seem to be the same Sydney as previous years. Let’s hold on to our judgement until then, not panic stations yet.

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I'm not panicking, we have dominated 2 of 3 games so far, but are being let down by some poor decision making, and a little lack of luck.

That been said, 1 point from 9 is not good enough and I would be disappointed if players didn't feel pressure to keep their spots as a result.

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With Rufer out. Would a better formation have been TAHW at CB and Laws as a left sided DM?. But I think maybe TAHW is not match fit for 90 so would be good to see him start getting some minutes on the park. 

Riddenton didn't really take his chance against the Jets. Sotirio much better suited to impact role. So next game I'm expecting to see the same line up as against macarthur. With those two moved to the bench.

With hopefully TAHW coming on in last 20 or so, as we need more options / competition in CB defence.

Marinovich hasn't been at his best. Don't know what's happening there. Is it a lack of leadership in front of him? But we know he is quality, so have to back him to pull it together.

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Has Marinovic gone and changed his name? Seems I'm reading Marinovich and other variations everywhere. 

Ditto Hemed

By the way read somewhere that Piscopo likely won't be ready until the game after CCM, ie Sydney on 8th Feb.

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I think Uffie is right, what needs to change is putting the ball in the net! Work on the combinations with Hemed and his fellow attackers. Obviously change back to Rufer in midfield. 
Who gets to look after Matt Simon will be crucial for the Mariners game, someone that wont be intimidated (bring back Siggy).

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This thread existing is stupid. Its been 3 games and we've been the better team in all of them. Especially after what we saw last year you'd think we'd have a tiny bit of patience, christ.

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Not so sure, yes we have looked good but its also now 10 games and only one win. Big difference from last year is we have no home games to build a winning sequence on. So yes while its only 3 games in like you im not overly concerned but i do have concerns. Would much rather be winning ugly than drawing or winning looking good.

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Nelfoos wrote:

This thread existing is stupid. Its been 3 games and we've been the better team in all of them. Especially after what we saw last year you'd think we'd have a tiny bit of patience, christ.

This.

Biggest change that's needed is a small slice of Lady Luck.

Rufer's stupid sending off, hitting post twice against Jets, and their keeper producing some top saves.

This season league already looks far tighter than last. Anyone beating anyone on the day. 

And I like look of Hemed cutting a frustrated figure. Shows he already cares. Don't think he will go all sulky Latino. Just needs to get used to the idea that his team mates ain't La Liga, EPL or even Championship standard.

Patience.

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coochiee wrote:

Nelfoos wrote:

This thread existing is stupid. Its been 3 games and we've been the better team in all of them. Especially after what we saw last year you'd think we'd have a tiny bit of patience, christ.

This.

Biggest change that's needed is a small slice of Lady Luck.

Rufer's stupid sending off, hitting post twice against Jets, and their keeper producing some top saves.

This season league already looks far tighter than last. Anyone beating anyone on the day. 

And I like look of Hemed cutting a frustrated figure. Shows he already cares. Don't think he will go all sulky Latino. Just needs to get used to the idea that his team mates ain't La Liga, EPL or even Championship standard.

Patience.

Not sure Israeli's "go all sulky Latino" very often at all.

He's been with the team less time than the rest of them, it'll take a few weeks to get settled and for him to be ready for 90 minutes.

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Maybe not sulky latino, but Israelis (at the high risk of stereotyping) are pretty famous for loving a good explosive argument.

Though he's spent plenty of time living in UK, to be aware that that's not really the Anglo Saxon way.

Also comes across as an intelligent, articulate dude. English, Hebrew & Spanish.

No doubt he's working hard with Uffie and his new team mates, to work out a plan.

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coochiee wrote:

Maybe not sulky latino, but Israelis (at the high risk of stereotyping) are pretty famous for loving a good explosive argument.

Though he's spent plenty of time living in UK, to be aware that that's not really the Anglo Saxon way.

Also comes across as an intelligent, articulate dude. English, Hebrew & Spanish.

No doubt he's working hard with Uffie and his new team mates, to work out a plan.


being Israeli, I have spoken to him a few times since he moved on Instagram and over the phone while he had to get his family over to isolate. I asked specifically if his time in England has changed him, he said that he hasn’t lived in Israel for years (it’s been almost 10 years) and that his mentality is for the team to win. Trust me, he isn’t a sucker, he gets frustrated during games of things don’t go well, but like everyone else, he shows his frustration in a certain way. He won’t pack up his bags because his wife isn’t happy or he won’t rage quit. He’s one of the most dedicated professionals out there when it comes to looking after his body and putting his team first 

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Good insights cheers, and I'm sure Talay and Gill did their research before signing him.

They will all be working hard, on a plan to make it work. He's obviously going to be a very crucial cog to how the Nix's season goes, as it showed with Hooper last season.

But Hemed's only been with the team 5 minutes. Patience.

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Talay has always said his game plan is about cohesion and that comes from putting the same team on the park as much as possible. I doubt anything will change unless it's forced on him.

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OK so going by almost everyone here, we have to either wait for the opposition goal keeper to have a bad day in order for us to win and/or magically we will become a top 4 side by winning 1 game in the near future. Yep i will take them odds.

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What needs to change?

We need to score more goals than we concede. Doesn't matter a fudge how we do it

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C-Diddy wrote:

What needs to change?

We need to score more goals than we concede. Doesn't matter a fudge how we do it

Football is a simple game

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I am disappointed in myself that I read this thread... its 3 games...

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Wouldn't be surprised if we knock off the "top spot" Mariners. Three games means nothing, relax everybody.

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new match thread?

Knocking in a few goals would help. 

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Why does Sotorio remind me so much of Appiah? Lot's of speed, poor decision making? Taking on players when a pass would have been better and passing when he should have backed himself.

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Lonegunmen wrote:

Why does Sotorio remind me so much of Appiah? Lot's of speed, poor decision making? Taking on players when a pass would have been better and passing when he should have backed himself.

I guess its sadly due to Aussie and NZ football loving these kind of players. If you have a bit of pace in the lower leagues in both countries you can be seen as something special. This may eventually change but the likes of appiah and sotirio do well in those leagues and get noticed.

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theprof wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Why does Sotorio remind me so much of Appiah? Lot's of speed, poor decision making? Taking on players when a pass would have been better and passing when he should have backed himself.

I guess its sadly due to Aussie and NZ football loving these kind of players. If you have a bit of pace in the lower leagues in both countries you can be seen as something special. This may eventually change but the likes of appiah and sotirio do well in those leagues and get noticed.

Logan Rogerson.

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el grapadura wrote:

theprof wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Why does Sotorio remind me so much of Appiah? Lot's of speed, poor decision making? Taking on players when a pass would have been better and passing when he should have backed himself.

I guess its sadly due to Aussie and NZ football loving these kind of players. If you have a bit of pace in the lower leagues in both countries you can be seen as something special. This may eventually change but the likes of appiah and sotirio do well in those leagues and get noticed.

Logan Rogerson.

Bad comparison. Logan while not great, is twice the player of Sotirio 

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pierre wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

theprof wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Why does Sotorio remind me so much of Appiah? Lot's of speed, poor decision making? Taking on players when a pass would have been better and passing when he should have backed himself.

I guess its sadly due to Aussie and NZ football loving these kind of players. If you have a bit of pace in the lower leagues in both countries you can be seen as something special. This may eventually change but the likes of appiah and sotirio do well in those leagues and get noticed.

Logan Rogerson.

Bad comparison. Logan while not great, is twice the player of Sotirio 

is he really? sure he's dominant in NZ, but he never really looked that sharp when he trialled/played for the Nix - if he really was better then surely he would have been picked up by CCM, Jets or the Roar by now.

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theprof wrote:

pierre wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

theprof wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Why does Sotorio remind me so much of Appiah? Lot's of speed, poor decision making? Taking on players when a pass would have been better and passing when he should have backed himself.

I guess its sadly due to Aussie and NZ football loving these kind of players. If you have a bit of pace in the lower leagues in both countries you can be seen as something special. This may eventually change but the likes of appiah and sotirio do well in those leagues and get noticed.

Logan Rogerson.

Bad comparison. Logan while not great, is twice the player of Sotirio 

is he really? sure he's dominant in NZ, but he never really looked that sharp when he trialled/played for the Nix - if he really was better then surely he would have been picked up by CCM, Jets or the Roar by now.

I mentioned him only because he's the archetypal example of what you were talking about - someone who burst through the ranks based on his pace/ability to run past people at junior levels, and whose career stalled once he reached the level where he couldn't do that anymore. 

Sotirio has 'elite' type pace at the A-league level, that is why he still has a career in the league.

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el grapadura wrote:

theprof wrote:

pierre wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

theprof wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Why does Sotorio remind me so much of Appiah? Lot's of speed, poor decision making? Taking on players when a pass would have been better and passing when he should have backed himself.

I guess its sadly due to Aussie and NZ football loving these kind of players. If you have a bit of pace in the lower leagues in both countries you can be seen as something special. This may eventually change but the likes of appiah and sotirio do well in those leagues and get noticed.

Logan Rogerson.

Bad comparison. Logan while not great, is twice the player of Sotirio 

is he really? sure he's dominant in NZ, but he never really looked that sharp when he trialed/played for the Nix - if he really was better then surely he would have been picked up by CCM, Jets or the Roar by now.

I mentioned him only because he's the archetypal example of what you were talking about - someone who burst through the ranks based on his pace/ability to run past people at junior levels, and whose career stalled once he reached the level where he couldn't do that anymore. 

Sotirio has 'elite' type pace at the A-league level, that is why he still has a career in the league.

that's fair, Sotirio is only 25, I dont think his footballing skills are going to get any better and at some point his speed will drop which i guess will end any a-league career he has left. rogerson is only 22, so i guess his skills could improve and he'll remain quicker than momst for a number of years.

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kwlap wrote:

I am disappointed in myself that I read this thread... its 3 games...

THIS!
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I mean, I'm glad we've got our scapegoat, but Sotirio is better than Appiah. In addition to his speed he can be strong on the ball and he is also fit. He obviously listens to the coach, follows instructions to the best of his ability and puts energy in for the team. It's not his fault he's starting for us. 

On simple statistics Sotirio has been involved directly in 6 goals with the Nix. Appiah got 0. Sotirio has the sublime occasionally in his locker. For a comparison David Ball has been involved in 11 goals. I know this is simplistic analysis, but a fairer one.

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martinb wrote:

I mean, I'm glad we've got our scapegoat, but Sotirio is better than Appiah. In addition to his speed he can be strong on the ball and he is also fit. He obviously listens to the coach, follows instructions to the best of his ability and puts energy in for the team. It's not his fault he's starting for us. 

On simple statistics Sotirio has been involved directly in 6 goals with the Nix. Appiah got 0. Sotirio has the sublime occasionally in his locker. For a comparison David Ball has been involved in 11 goals. I know this is simplistic analysis, but a fairer one.

I think the problem we have with Soririo is that his "strength on the ball" hasnt been seen this season, he has lost the ball at crucial times when he has simply had it at his feet and its been pinched leading to a goal. His pace is fabulous, but he seems to have lost a bit of composure on the ball and is making mistakes in possession.

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While I am as frustrated as anyone, I can see that Davila is finally getting his legs back, and will work out some magic with Hemed and Ball.  I am less optimistic about our central defence and some work might be needed, also to relieve the pressure on Marinovic.  As for the goalie, he had a couple of howlers, and looked a bit slow, but also made some cracking saves so far. Looks just a question of confidence for Marinovic at present (and maybe form) while the defence needs some team-building so they all sing from the same score-sheet.

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Having Sail in goal would be a start, Sortirio to stay but maybe use Hemed as a sub until he finds his feet.

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Am I the only one that sees the problem is with Ball - he is just too slow. He may be tricky but always gets shut down.Our real strikers don't get set up properly. Hence Hemed's frustration.
Rufer is the most effective passer for going forward. It is easy to look good if you are always playing back, but Rufer creates most of our goal chances by getting players in behind the defence.

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Use Ball as an old fashioned Centre Forward playing in the middle of the forward line and let Hemed and DaVilla feed of him??

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I suppose that Hemed should work out the same understanding with Ball, eventually, that Ball managed to get in place with Hooper.   Similar self-discipline, skillset and quiet confidence.

LG
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I wonder if Boxall would consider returning? Still young but now much more experienced.

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Lonegunmen wrote:

I wonder if Boxall would consider returning? Still young but now much more experienced.

In a few years, when he's no longer good enough for the MLS maybe. Not before then.

Tuiloma probably a higher chance of coming to the A League. Still really a fringe player at Portland.

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coochiee wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

I wonder if Boxall would consider returning? Still young but now much more experienced.

In a few years, when he's no longer good enough for the MLS maybe. Not before then.

Tuiloma probably a higher chance of coming to the A League. Still really a fringe player at Portland.

Sam Brotherton who has just come back from the states to Auckland City?

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