Shark, after going 7 in a run undefeated, I am terrified that now have to play the last placed team at home.
... I hope we win.
R13 vs Central Coast Mariners | Sat 12 Jan | 7.35pm | Westpac | #KidsGoFree
Shark, after going 7 in a run undefeated, I am terrified that now have to play the last placed team at home.
... I hope we win.
you mean the team that a couple of seasons ago got only 13 points and 7 of them came from us!
... I hope we win
Last four games against CCM
2-0 (H) win - 15-Dec-18
0-1 (A) loss - 23-Feb-18
0-0 (A) draw - 31-Dec-17
1-4 (H) loss - 25-Nov-17
Current form
Phoenix - WWDDW
CCM - LLLLL
I'm worry about this one, Everyone thought we would beat Adelaide and look what happened. CCM have nothing to lose.
Jesus we're a depressing bunch lol
3-1 to us I reckon. It's like we don't know how to be confident, we've never been this far
Shark, after going 7 in a run undefeated, I am terrified that now have to play the last placed team at home.
... I hope we win.
you mean the team that a couple of seasons ago got only 13 points and 7 of them came from us!
... I hope we win
dear god, is that the same team!?! Why are we even bothering then! We have no chance.
But still ... I hope we win
How about we stop doing the usual mopey NZ sports supporter thing of being surprised everytime we play well, and feeling justified/smug everytime we play badly? Would be nice for both the team and supporters to have a bit of confidence. We should expect to beat CCM - if we don't, what are we doing? Do we want to win the league one day, or not? If so, we need to develop a club culture where it is expected that we perform, especially at home, and especially against teams below us.
Is it still possible we will lose? Yes, it's possible that we'll lose any game, it's the bloody A-League. Even if we did, I won't care as much as I would've earlier in the season when we weren't displaying the same qualities as we are displaying now. We're still building, and I have confidence that Rudan now knows what he is doing (I didn't earlier in the season, I must admit, as some decisions seemed baffling from the outside). He has been justified in his actions by our recent performances and everyone should be behind him now.
I'm worry about this one, Everyone thought we would beat Adelaide and look what happened. CCM have nothing to lose.
Ahhh did they??
Look what happened? Um we got a red card to a key player with 25 minutes remaining and held on for a fantastic point away in the South Australian heat.
I'm worry about this one, Everyone thought we would beat Adelaide and look what happened. CCM have nothing to lose.
Ahhh did they??
Look what happened? Um we got a red card to a key player with 25 minutes remaining and held on for a fantastic point away in the South Australian heat.
My team for this game;
Kurto
Taylor Durante Doyle
Fenton Kopy Butters Cacace
Singh
Krishna Sheridan
Harsh on Williams, and I'm a big fan of his; but I just think he's a bit too similar to Krishna. Sheridan offers something different, and since we are going long quite often (basically every goal kick goes long), it makes sense to have Sheridan challenging for balls rather than Krishna.
I think Williams gets one more week as the starter, with Sheridan to come on after 60 minutes. I feel like Williams pressed the ball better than Sheridan against WSW - due to lack of match fitness and/or tactical familiarity - and this has been crucial to our success this season. Could be wrong, but that was my impression.
Think it would also be beneficial to keep the starting XI as consistent as possible given that it will be an untested pair in defensive midfield.
I'm worry about this one, Everyone thought we would beat Adelaide and look what happened. CCM have nothing to lose.
Ahhh did they??
Look what happened? Um we got a red card to a key player with 25 minutes remaining and held on for a fantastic point away in the South Australian heat.
It was only 25 that day, hardly hot.
Referee: Alex King
Assistant Referee 1: David Walsh
Assistant Referee 2: Mark Rule
Fourth Official: Adrian Arndt
VAR: Nick Waldron
Wellington Phoenix Squad: 1.Filip KURTO (gk), 5.Ryan LOWRY, 6.Dylan FOX, 7.Cillian SHERIDAN 8.Mitch NICHOLS, 9.Nathan BURNS, 11.David WILLIAMS, 13.Liberato CACACE, 15.Michal KOPZCYNSKI, 16.Louis FENTON, 17.Callan ELLIOT, 18.Sarpreet SINGH, 19.Tom DOYLE, 20.Oliver SAIL (gk), 21.Roy KRISHNA, 22.Andrew DURANTE (c), 23.Max BURGESS, 27.Steven TAYLOR **two to be omitted**
Central Coast Mariners squad: 1.Ben KENNEDY (gk), 2.Jonathan ASPROPOTAMITS, 4.Jake McGING, 6.Tom HIARIEJ, 7.Andrew HOOLE, 8.Michael McGLINCHEY, 10.Tommy OAR, 11.Connor PAIN, 12.Adam PEARCE (gk), , 15.Kye ROWLES,18.Matt MILLAR, 19.Matt SIMON (c), 22.Jacob MELLING, 23.Mario SHABOW, 25.Jordan MURRAY, 26.Joshua NISBET **one to be omitted**
Great time to be a Phoenix supporter and get those crowds in again.
CCM will come out firing for sure, but Rudan has this side really believing in themselves, and handling adversity during a game at a level not seen for years.
The latter is what I’m loving.
anyone got a pax?
I'm worry about this one, Everyone thought we would beat Adelaide and look what happened. CCM have nothing to lose.
Ahhh did they??
Look what happened? Um we got a red card to a key player with 25 minutes remaining and held on for a fantastic point away in the South Australian heat.
Exactly - to get a point away from home, with 10 men, after playing awful is a fantastic point.
I'm worry about this one, Everyone thought we would beat Adelaide and look what happened. CCM have nothing to lose.
Ahhh did they??
Look what happened? Um we got a red card to a key player with 25 minutes remaining and held on for a fantastic point away in the South Australian heat.
Exactly - to get a point away from home, with 10 men, after playing awful is a fantastic point.
I put money on a draw as I was feeling optimistic
We need some of the cockiness/confidence of All Blacks fans now - go into this game expecting to play well and win. Let's do it!
Pax 8833
Pax 8833
This includes all 5k members? So ideally need PAX to get to circa 12k to hopefully get a 10k crowd? But I assume there will be a thousand or two walk up if the weather plays ball
Pax 8833
This includes all 5k members? So ideally need PAX to get to circa 12k to hopefully get a 10k crowd? But I assume there will be a thousand or two walk up if the weather plays ball
Its looking ok there
I reckon we will crack 12k
I feel outdone.
as long as its not by the mariners eh?
Just managed to drag along 4 more casuals which also made me realise we'll probably come close to losing it or play sharke this game but then I figured out how I don't care and that its all part of supporting the team.
Guy from work going along, will be the first ever football match he's gone to (he's a top club grade rugby player).
Nick Waldron doing VAR, FFS Deja Vu? I just want the team for go out after them and not ease off.
Nick Waldron doing VAR, FFS Deja Vu? I just want the team for go out after them and not ease off.
That breaks my heart, no one else capable? Sponsored by Specsavers?
I know history doesn't count for much but I thought this was interesting; when you look at Wellington's results in round 13 in the 11 seasons they've been in the A-League, they've won 7, drawn 3, and lost only 1. This is comfortably their best round for results. The next best is round 11 with 6 wins, 3 draws, and 3 losses.
Unfortunately, that one round 13 loss was against Central Coast (3-1 on new year's eve, 2015/16) and the Phoenix also drew against them in round 13 last season.
The other two draws were against Sydney FC (in season 1), and Adelaide in 16/17.
The wins (in order) were against Victory, Newcastle, Perth, Newcastle, Heart, Wanderers, and Adelaide.
(Their worst round for results is round 4; they won the round 4 match in season 1 (first Phoenix win ever), but since then, there's only been two draws and 8 losses (several of these are the Melbourne Cup Monday games against the Victory))
I know history doesn't count for much but I thought this was interesting; when you look at Wellington's results in round 13 in the 11 seasons they've been in the A-League, they've won 7, drawn 3, and lost only 1. This is comfortably their best round for results. The next best is round 11 with 6 wins, 3 draws, and 3 losses.
Unfortunately, that one round 13 loss was against Central Coast (3-1 on new year's eve, 2015/16) and the Phoenix also drew against them in round 13 last season.
The other two draws were against Sydney FC (in season 1), and Adelaide in 16/17.
The wins (in order) were against Victory, Newcastle, Perth, Newcastle, Heart, Wanderers, and Adelaide.
(Their worst round for results is round 4; they won the round 4 match in season 1 (first Phoenix win ever), but since then, there's only been two draws and 8 losses (several of these are the Melbourne Cup Monday games against the Victory))
Yes but what you have for Round 13 for last three seasons is Draw, Draw, Lost. Was only our lucky round 2008/09 season to 2014/15 season. Otherwise our best round last few seasons has been Round 6 with draw, win, win, win before we get to a lost back in 2014/15
Tomorrow night can't come soon enough! Buzzing!
I wonder what Mariners fans would think about us angsting about possible failure against them. Their team hasn't won a game since Adam was a boy, their striker has run away from home, their star defender has gone loco, the players are dissing the coach, the club is in general turmoil and they are off to play away against a team that's on a 7 game unbeaten streak which beat them convincingly less than a month ago. Don't think they will be expecting much.
I know history doesn't count for much but I thought this was interesting; when you look at Wellington's results in round 13 in the 11 seasons they've been in the A-League, they've won 7, drawn 3, and lost only 1. This is comfortably their best round for results. The next best is round 11 with 6 wins, 3 draws, and 3 losses.
Unfortunately, that one round 13 loss was against Central Coast (3-1 on new year's eve, 2015/16) and the Phoenix also drew against them in round 13 last season.
The other two draws were against Sydney FC (in season 1), and Adelaide in 16/17.
The wins (in order) were against Victory, Newcastle, Perth, Newcastle, Heart, Wanderers, and Adelaide.
(Their worst round for results is round 4; they won the round 4 match in season 1 (first Phoenix win ever), but since then, there's only been two draws and 8 losses (several of these are the Melbourne Cup Monday games against the Victory))
I'm interested in seeing how that compares with "milestone" games... If you're taking requests. I feel like we're traditionally jinxed on 100, 250 etc games, but happy to have the numbers prove otherwise
I know history doesn't count for much but I thought this was interesting; when you look at Wellington's results in round 13 in the 11 seasons they've been in the A-League, they've won 7, drawn 3, and lost only 1. This is comfortably their best round for results. The next best is round 11 with 6 wins, 3 draws, and 3 losses.
Unfortunately, that one round 13 loss was against Central Coast (3-1 on new year's eve, 2015/16) and the Phoenix also drew against them in round 13 last season.
The other two draws were against Sydney FC (in season 1), and Adelaide in 16/17.
The wins (in order) were against Victory, Newcastle, Perth, Newcastle, Heart, Wanderers, and Adelaide.
(Their worst round for results is round 4; they won the round 4 match in season 1 (first Phoenix win ever), but since then, there's only been two draws and 8 losses (several of these are the Melbourne Cup Monday games against the Victory))
I'm interested in seeing how that compares with "milestone" games... If you're taking requests. I feel like we're traditionally jinxed on 100, 250 etc games, but happy to have the numbers prove otherwise
I don't know anywhere that lists different milestone games, but from games I found
Andrew Durante and Vince Lia 250th (total A-League) and 200th game - Played Newcastle Jets and won 2-0
Andrew Durante 250th game for club - Played Western Sydney Wanderers and lost 0-3
Jon McKain 200th National League level appearance - Played Perth Glory and won 2-1
Paul Ifill 400th senior match - Played Central Coast Mariners and won 2-0
1st game - Played Melbourne Victory and drew 2-2
50th game - Played Central Coast Mariners and drew 0-0
100th game - Played Adelaide and won 1-0
150th game - Played Newcastle Jets and drew 1-1
200th game - Played Brisbane Roar and won 3-0
250th game - Played Central Coast Mariners and won 3-0
300th game - Played Adelaide United and lost 1-3 (Note that was the game on 24-Nov-18)
I wonder what Mariners fans would think about us angsting about possible failure against them. Their team hasn't won a game since Adam was a boy, their striker has run away from home, their star defender has gone loco, the players are dissing the coach, the club is in general turmoil and they are off to play away against a team that's on a 7 game unbeaten streak which beat them convincingly less than a month ago. Don't think they will be expecting much.
I wonder what Mariners fans would think about us angsting about possible failure against them. Their team hasn't won a game since Adam was a boy, their striker has run away from home, their star defender has gone loco, the players are dissing the coach, the club is in general turmoil and they are off to play away against a team that's on a 7 game unbeaten streak which beat them convincingly less than a month ago. Don't think they will be expecting much.
If I was a Mariners fan going into the match I'd be thinking:
'if we play to the best of our abilities we can get a result. Phoenix have both their defensive midfielders out, so the engine of their team is significantly weakened. Phoenix are on a good run, but they aren't a team I'm scared of. We've been close to getting results recently, many times justifiably going ahead, if we keep it together for a full 90 we can get a result. We're definitely due!!'
I've predicted Phoenix by 2 or more though!
Yes, we are strong favourites, and we should win. Also, anyone can beat anyone in this league, and I don't think CCM are quite as hopeless as they seem on the surface, even though they are sucking.
If our replacements for Mandi & Rufer aren't going well, it does get dicey.
I know history doesn't count for much but I thought this was interesting; when you look at Wellington's results in round 13 in the 11 seasons they've been in the A-League, they've won 7, drawn 3, and lost only 1. This is comfortably their best round for results. The next best is round 11 with 6 wins, 3 draws, and 3 losses.
Unfortunately, that one round 13 loss was against Central Coast (3-1 on new year's eve, 2015/16) and the Phoenix also drew against them in round 13 last season.
The other two draws were against Sydney FC (in season 1), and Adelaide in 16/17.
The wins (in order) were against Victory, Newcastle, Perth, Newcastle, Heart, Wanderers, and Adelaide.
(Their worst round for results is round 4; they won the round 4 match in season 1 (first Phoenix win ever), but since then, there's only been two draws and 8 losses (several of these are the Melbourne Cup Monday games against the Victory))
I'm interested in seeing how that compares with "milestone" games... If you're taking requests. I feel like we're traditionally jinxed on 100, 250 etc games, but happy to have the numbers prove otherwise
I don't know anywhere that lists different milestone games, but from games I found
Andrew Durante and Vince Lia 250th (total A-League) and 200th game - Played Newcastle Jets and won 2-0
Andrew Durante 250th game for club - Played Western Sydney Wanderers and lost 0-3
Jon McKain 200th National League level appearance - Played Perth Glory and won 2-1
Paul Ifill 400th senior match - Played Central Coast Mariners and won 2-0
1st game - Played Melbourne Victory and drew 2-2
50th game - Played Central Coast Mariners and drew 0-0
100th game - Played Adelaide and won 1-0
150th game - Played Newcastle Jets and drew 1-1
200th game - Played Brisbane Roar and won 3-0
250th game - Played Central Coast Mariners and won 3-0
300th game - Played Adelaide United and lost 1-3 (Note that was the game on 24-Nov-18)
I just got Stat Yak attacked and I like it