Nix Transfer Speculation 2019-20

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Boro4eva wrote:

Need a 15 plus goal scorer

Davila is on track. :)

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I like the D-Man playing in a central role behind the striker. It seems to give him more room to do his stuff. 

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Ryan wrote:

Smith doesn't seem particularly good for team culture, I'd pass for the kind of money he'd expect.

I'd say Smith would have zero interest in relocating his young family to NZ, unless the Nix offered very big money. He's far more an Englishman than a Kiwi. By comparison Steven Taylor was a single bloke looking for an overseas adventure

If Smith's negotiations with the Rapids fall over he'll be back in East Anglia.

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Sadly I think you're right coochiee - still though, we should give it a crack.

And if not him, getting a better CB than DeVere should be priority - someone who is perhaps not getting as much game time as they would like in say Serie B, lower Championship/League One or similar...

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What is interesting is that Ipswich are currently 2nd in League One, and so looking at this early stage (17 games into a 44 game season) a chance of being promoted.

If they end up back in The Championship, they would you think be looking to open the cheque book a bit in 2020, to strengthen their squad. In that case Smith may not fit the bill, being 2-3 years older since he last played for the Tractor Boys, and back then he had already been demoted to squaddie/bench status.

Still there is probably plenty of other League One level sides around the UK, that would seriously look at Smith for a year or so. Maybe Huddo will pop up as manager at Accrington Stanley or somewhere!

One attraction Nix may have is a comparatively shorter A League season, and played in warmer weather (similar to MLS) - than the lower level English winter football slogfest.

All moot if he can renegoiate with the Rapids.

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coochiee wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Smith doesn't seem particularly good for team culture, I'd pass for the kind of money he'd expect.

I'd say Smith would have zero interest in relocating his young family to NZ, unless the Nix offered very big money. He's far more an Englishman than a Kiwi. By comparison Steven Taylor was a single bloke looking for an overseas adventure

If Smith's negotiations with the Rapids fall over he'll be back in East Anglia.

To be fair Smith did grow up in New Zealand and has returned for his off-season holidays on occasion. But he’d have to take a huge pay cut. Nando Pijnaker would have been a more realistic option but that never materialised. 

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How many years did Smith spend in NZ as a boy?

Don't know many Kiwi kids called Tommy, and neither remember him visiting NZ at all apart for football - not that these things matter much, but bit different to say Reid who was born in NZ and has family there.

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coochiee wrote:

How many years did Smith spend in NZ as a boy?

From memory, not that many - maybe 5 or 6?

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Moved to NZ when he was 8 years old (1998) then appears to have signed for Ipswich U18 in 2008 so possibly 10 years?

Can't find any specific reference other than "grew up" or "spent his youth" in NZ... 

EDIT: It's probably less - according to this, he signed his first professional contract in 2007, by which time he was already a product of the Ipswich YT - so you'd think he'd been there 2-3 years by that point. 

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Moved to NZ when he was 8 years old (1998) then appears to have signed for Ipswich U18 in 2008 so possibly 10 years?

Can't find any specific reference other than "grew up" or "spent his youth" in NZ... 

EDIT: It's probably less - according to this, he signed his first professional contract in 2007, by which time he was already a product of the Ipswich YT - so you'd think he'd been there 2-3 years by that point. 

Yeah I have feeling El Grap has it about right. So saying he grew up in NZ is a bit of a stretch, plus I thought all his whanau were in Blighty.

His ties to NZ ain’t that strong, plus his wife and kids are English.

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would rather we spend this kind of coin more creatively 

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Call me crazy but Ball, Taylor, Hooper, Greenacre, Ifill and Warner were all English and didn’t have many problems coming down here

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I'm assuming people are thinking that he'd take a paycut to come "home" when home is in fact the UK.

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Also isn't he Ipswich's longest ever servicing player (most games?).

Not sure if he has coaching aspirations, but from memory he has setup some sort of youth academy in the Ipswich area.

Like him or not, he is an experienced leader. He may be seeking to move into an off field role back at the Tractor Boys in due course. Not sure if heading to all the way to NZ rather than the UK somewhere, would fit in with plans like that if they exist.

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From memory his family migrated to NZ, setting up home in Papamoa when he was in primary school.  I believe he moved to Auckland as a teen to play for Westlake Boys and was spotted by Ipswich when touring England with the NZ Secondary Schools team.  It seems the only reason he moved back to England at that stage was because he was good at football - if he hadn't been signed as a pro chances are he'd have remained in NZ?  

Don't know him, have never met him, but I think his connection to this country would be as least as strong as any of the non-NZ born players who have represented us (like Smeltz?)

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Moved to NZ when he was 8 years old (1998) then appears to have signed for Ipswich U18 in 2008 so possibly 10 years?

Can't find any specific reference other than "grew up" or "spent his youth" in NZ... 

EDIT: It's probably less - according to this, he signed his first professional contract in 2007, by which time he was already a product of the Ipswich YT - so you'd think he'd been there 2-3 years by that point. 

Yeah I have feeling El Grap has it about right. So saying he grew up in NZ is a bit of a stretch, plus I thought all his whanau were in Blighty.

His ties to NZ ain’t that strong, plus his wife and kids are English.

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I wonder where his parents & siblings are?

I've never heard mention of him visiting any family in NZ, unlike say Reid now & again. 

Reid setup an academy in NZ, Smith in East Anglia.

Flipping across the Tasman, for 'AusKiwis' like Moss & Smeltz would be dead easy in comparison to uprooting from the UK/US to NZ. Esp if you have a young family, plus UK business interests.

Just don't see the Nix/NZ as an option for him, unless he was dead out of other club options, at comparable pay.

Anyway all moot if he stays in Colorado.

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coochiee wrote:

I wonder where his parents & siblings are?

I've never heard mention of him visiting any family in NZ, unlike say Reid now & again. 

Reid setup an academy in NZ, Smith in East Anglia.

Flipping across the Tasman, for 'AusKiwis' like Moss & Smeltz would be dead easy in comparison to uprooting from the UK/US to NZ. Esp if you have a young family, plus UK business interests.

I vaguely remember they all moved back to UK when Tommy signed as he was still young?
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Now doyle is a free agent, Question is....

Do we pick him up? I liked him in CB

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Now doyle is a free agent, Question is....

Do we pick him up? I liked him in CB

No thanks; he wasn't re-signed for a reason. Good guy, but not a good defender.

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Now doyle is a free agent, Question is....

Do we pick him up? I liked him in CB

Talay declined the chance to re-sign him in the off season, so it's not gonna happen. We have 2 roster spots left, Lewis and Musa would be my wish list.

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