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If Aussie keep their borders shut until late next year as has been suggested. It may be case of who wants to live in Oz for a season as o mto how much we can pay them.

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el grapadura wrote:

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el grapadura wrote:

Ryan wrote:

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You guys do realise that the salary cap will basically be halved for the next season, and that the club is facing a prospect of no income from ticket sales until 2021 at least?

I'm worried about who we can afford to keep that we've signed for next season already, let alone how we strengthen the squad.

Yep, great point - the current deals that extend beyond this season were all made with a larger salary cap (and income) in mind, so they will have to be re-structured, and some players probably let go too.

Or it might be seen as an opportune time to bin the salary cap all together. There's enough excemptions at the moment that it's mostly pointless. 

Scrapping of the cap will happen sooner rather than later, assuming the league gets through this tough period. But it's illusory to think that any club in the league, in the current environment, will be looking to splash serious cash on the squad for next season even if there is no cap in place.

Factor in the extra expense for the Nix, if they get a W league side up and running. Start up cost for that will be significant.

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Government will fund the Womens team partly IMO. It is in their interests to have a successful National Team with us hosting the World Cup.

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el grapadura wrote:

You guys do realise that the salary cap will basically be halved for the next season, and that the club is facing a prospect of no income from ticket sales until 2021 at least?

Why do you say the salary cap will be halved? If clubs can’t afford to use the current cap next year, they can simply choose not to spend it. I think that makes more sense than reducing the cap, then increasing it again later. Or is the cap automatically linked to the broadcasting deal? I wouldn’t think that the cap would automatically reduce because The broadcasting Deal is less.
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el grapadura wrote:

You guys do realise that the salary cap will basically be halved for the next season, and that the club is facing a prospect of no income from ticket sales until 2021 at least?

Why do you say the salary cap will be halved? If clubs can’t afford to use the current cap next year, they can simply choose not to spend it. I think that makes more sense than reducing the cap, then increasing it again later. Or is the cap automatically linked to the broadcasting deal? I wouldn’t think that the cap would automatically reduce because The broadcasting Deal is less.

Ain't so simple.

The A-League salary cap is $3.2 million for the 2019–20 season. Clubs must spend at least the salary floor which is $2.88 million (representing 90% of the salary cap). 

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If the salary cap is reduced, all clubs are in the same boat. Probably good news for "economical" clubs like ourselves.

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Or should they just reduce the salary floor for next season?

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Doloras wrote:

If the salary cap is reduced, all clubs are in the same boat. Probably good news for "economical" clubs like ourselves.

Not sure it's very fair to call us an 'economical' club. Our squad has two ex-Premier League players, an ex-Bundesliga player, and a bunch of others with good experience and track record in competitive leagues around the world. It's certainly not a cheap squad, and I would be shocked if our player budget for this season in particular was in the bottom half of the league.

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Ranix wrote:

Or should they just reduce the salary floor for next season?

The whole point of the salary cap and floor as a concept is to keep the spend on players across all the clubs in the same ballpark, so any measure really has to cover both at the same time. 

I do expect both to go once the new league structure gets in place (assuming all goes well), but that will bring a new set of issues along too. The most important thing for the league next season is to ensure financial viability and demonstrate commercial potential to attract new partners and that's going to be a challenge given the incoming income hit for everyone, and the greater overlap with NRL and AFL seasons next year.

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The other benefit of the salary cap is to try and stop teams from gambling by taking on a lot of debt to try and win the league and hope the returns from that make it worth while.

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el grapadura wrote:

Doloras wrote:

If the salary cap is reduced, all clubs are in the same boat. Probably good news for "economical" clubs like ourselves.

Not sure it's very fair to call us an 'economical' club. Our squad has two ex-Premier League players, an ex-Bundesliga player, and a bunch of others with good experience and track record in competitive leagues around the world. It's certainly not a cheap squad, and I would be shocked if our player budget for this season in particular was in the bottom half of the league.

All that's true, but they've also got two players they're not paying at all.

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el grapadura wrote:

Doloras wrote:

If the salary cap is reduced, all clubs are in the same boat. Probably good news for "economical" clubs like ourselves.

Not sure it's very fair to call us an 'economical' club. Our squad has two ex-Premier League players, an ex-Bundesliga player, and a bunch of others with good experience and track record in competitive leagues around the world. It's certainly not a cheap squad, and I would be shocked if our player budget for this season in particular was in the bottom half of the league.

All that's true, but they've also got two players they're not paying at all.

Wait what? who's not being paid? 

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Sutton is one, Zac Jones the other maybe? Not exactly big savings on offer considering what their market rate would otherwise be.

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Why are those two off the payroll?

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Why are those two off the payroll?

They haven't been given Scholarships deals for some reason, despite training with the club full time.
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Why are those two off the payroll?

They're on Academy deals, aren't they?

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Ah, so when the academy went on hiatus they stopped being paid? Although it was said recently that the academy is back up and running.

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I don't think we should overdramatise our wage bill

Of the two premiership players mentioned

1: One wasplaying in league one (and a quick google search indicates wages in that league are not high)

2: The second was released from a championship club and if he didn't come here was heading to the league below 

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I don't think we should overdramatise our wage bill

Of the two premiership players mentioned

1: One wasplaying in league one (and a quick google search indicates wages in that league are not high)

2: The second was released from a championship club and if he didn't come here was heading to the league below 

Hooper was never going to League One, far too good, just had a huge string of injuries so Sheff Wed couldn't justify taking a risk and paying him the huge wages he was on

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If he actually had an offer from a championship club I dont think he would be here do you?

That would actually apply to any of our players 

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