Contracted Players - Matija Ljujić, come on down!
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Off Contract Players
patrick478
patrick478
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Bossi Insider
Where the players stand
Phoenix players off contract at the end of the season:
Paul Ifill, Manny Muscat, Mark Paston, Chris Greenacre, Vince Lia, Dani Sanchez, Tony Warner, Daniel, Nick Ward, Niko Tsattalios, Brent Griffiths, Cameron Lindsay
On the books for 2012-2013:
Andrew Durante, Ben SigmUnd, Tony Lochhead, Jimmy Downey, Tim Brown, Leo Bertos, Lucas Pantelis, Mirjan Pavlovic
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/football/5898320/Phoenix-look-to-future-talent/Phoenix players off contract at the end of the season:
Paul Ifill, Manny Muscat, Mark Paston, Chris Greenacre, Vince Lia, Dani Sanchez, Tony Warner, Daniel, Nick Ward, Niko Tsattalios, Brent Griffiths, Cameron Lindsay
On the books for 2012-2013:
Andrew Durante, Ben SigmUnd, Tony Lochhead, Jimmy Downey, Tim Brown, Leo Bertos, Lucas Pantelis, Mirjan Pavlovic
Opinions on who we should keep?
patrick478
Junior82
Legend
Smeltz and Rojas.
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theprof
Marquee
Paul Ifill, Manny Muscat, Mark Paston, Chris Greenacre, Vince Lia, Dani Sanchez, Tony Warner, Daniel, Nick Ward, Niko Tsattalios, Brent Griffiths, Cameron Lindsay
need to makle serious efforts to keep these guys, although I'd like to think we'd try to keep them all to avoid any last minute filling of the squad next season.
need to makle serious efforts to keep these guys, although I'd like to think we'd try to keep them all to avoid any last minute filling of the squad next season.
Queenslander 3x a year
bigtobz
First Team Squad
Really early in the season aye, any that I'd cull haven't had the chance to prove themselves yet.
Obv keep Moosecat, Iffy, Lia.
Prob keep Daniel, Sanchez.
Poss keep Ward.
Wait and see Lindsay, Griffiths.
Greenache, Pasty, Warner- have to wait and see where their thinking is at, and how much longer they want to keep playing footy.
theprof
Marquee
Greenie may not stay on as a player but I suspect he'll be kept as a coach at least.
Queenslander 3x a year
goldienz
First Team Squad
Really early in the season aye, any that I'd cull haven't had the chance to prove themselves yet.
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Obv keep Moosecat, Iffy, Lia.
Prob keep Daniel, Sanchez.
Poss keep Ward.
Wait and see Lindsay, Griffiths.
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Greenache, Pasty, Warner- have to wait and see where their thinking is at, and how much longer they want to keep playing footy.
Greenacre will likely still be around in a coaching role though wouldn't he?
Be handy to know he could kit up if need be.
Yellow Whever Whanganui
sthn.jeff
Marquee
I had posted this in another thread but seems more appropriate here
Will probably get lambasted on this one, but beginning to think Iffy's time is drawing near and I would not want to spend large wads of cash to keep him beyond the end of this year. Keep him by all means but I would not put the house on him. Clealry his first year was the best for us with 13 Goals (2 pens) and 9 assists from 30 matches. Last year he managed 7 Goals (2pens) and 2 assists from 20 games. He spent the last third of the season injured and the remainder of the season he was a shadow of what he was the year before.
He looked a lot fitter at the beginning of this year but injury has struck again and at 32, it is only ever going to get tougher to get over injuries and an injured groin is a very difficult one to get over.
I hope he burns up the rest of the year once he gets fit again (2 more weeks seems to be the indication) but at the moment if I had to spend a good chunk of our salary cap on him, I would be somewhat hesitant.
He is a top bloke, a legend, and close to the best ever A league import in his first season but everyones time comes to an end eventually.
sthn.jeff2011-11-03 13:19:25
uhfan
Phoenix Academy
sthn.jeff Totally agree with your words regarding Iffy and I am sure that he is not that stupid to know it also.
He has also made comment in the past about staying in NZ so there could be a roll for him to re coaching along with Greenacre.
uhfan
C-Diddy
Chant Savant
sthn.jeff Totally agree with your words regarding Iffy and I am sure that he is not that stupid to know it also.
He has also made comment in the past about staying in NZ so there could be a roll for him to re coaching along with Greenacre.
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Bullion
Starting XI
If Greenacre is happy to play for another season let him. We can probably offer him a low playing salary topped up with his coaching salary, I assume that Musc**t had this arrangement.
sthn.jeff
Marquee
If Greenacre is happy to play for another season let him. We can probably offer him a low playing salary topped up with his coaching salary, I assume that Musc**t had this arrangement.
So do all of ACFC players i mean coaches
hlmphil
Starting XI
I'd be looking to sign them in this order personally:
Manny Muscat, Paul Ifill, Dani Sanchez, Mark Paston, Vince Lia, Nick Ward, Niko Tsattalios, Tony Warner, Daniel, Cameron Lindsay, Brent Griffiths,
Chris Greenacre - not sure he'll keep playing, otherwise somewhere in the middle.
RR
Bossi Insider
If Greenacre is happy to play for another season let him. We can probably offer him a low playing salary topped up with his coaching salary, I assume that Musc**t had this arrangement.
I wouldnt mind keeping him on, but the problem would be if they reduced the import quota as its been suggested. All our import slots are available for next season. If it goes down to 4, I would keep Ifill, and depending on how the season goes, Sanchez and Smith, and leave us 1 import slot for a new younger striker.
Moving Greenacre to the backroom would be good, if Ifill breaks down he can always be an injury replacement.
Luis Garcia
Marquee
I'd be looking to sign them in this order personally:
Manny Muscat, Paul Ifill, Dani Sanchez, Mark Paston, Vince Lia, Nick Ward, Niko Tsattalios, Tony Warner, Daniel, Cameron Lindsay, Brent Griffiths,
Chris Greenacre - not sure he'll keep playing, otherwise somewhere in the middle.
I'm happy for the squad to be players from whatever country, but I definitely think that all 3 of the youth players should be New Zealanders.
Bullion
Starting XI
If Greenacre is happy to play for another season let him. We can probably offer him a low playing salary topped up with his coaching salary, I assume that Musc**t had this arrangement.
I wouldnt mind keeping him on, but the problem would be if they reduced the import quota as its been suggested. All our import slots are available for next season. If it goes down to 4, I would keep Ifill, and depending on how the season goes, Sanchez and Smith, and leave us 1 import slot for a new younger striker.Moving Greenacre to the backroom would be good, if Ifill breaks down he can always be an injury replacement.
Good point. How long until Greenacre and Ifill are eligible for NZ citizenship?
zinidane
First Team Squad
re-signing Ifill will really depend on how he goes for the rest of the season. He's a top player and if he is any where near top form then another year for certain.
Greenacre will be 35 by the middle of next season. Not sure we want an import slot tied up. Fine as assistant coach but its his last season for me.
Sign Sanchez for another couple of years right now.
We seem to have a reasonably old squad...nothing wrong with that as long as you have a plan to introduce younger players in a sensible way, to bed them into the Nix system. The last thing you want is the squad starting to look old and creaky and then have to go out and recruit a whole bunch of new players in one hit.
The young players recruited to make up the under 20 quota should not be recruited to just make up the numbers. Tsats, Griffiths and Lyndsay should be there to groom, to take over from Locky, Durante/Siggy and Brown one day. I will leave it you guys to decide if thats viable.
paullt
First Team Squad
re-signing Ifill will really depend on how he goes for the rest of the season. He's a top player and if he is any where near top form then another year for certain.
Greenacre will be 35 by the middle of next season. Not sure we want an import slot tied up. Fine as assistant coach but its his last season for me.
Sign Sanchez for another couple of years right now.
We seem to have a reasonably old squad...nothing wrong with that as long as you have a plan to introduce younger players in a sensible way, to bed them into the Nix system. The last thing you want is the squad starting to look old and creaky and then have to go out and recruit a whole bunch of new players in one hit.
The young players recruited to make up the under 20 quota should not be recruited to just make up the numbers. Tsats, Griffiths and Lyndsay should be there to groom, to take over from Locky, Durante/Siggy and Brown one day. I will leave it you guys to decide if thats viable.
Grooming conjours up all sorts of creepy scenarios..and as for bedding them in....lol
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Three words: KEEP VINCE LIA
You cannot break my heart by letting him go, please. Willing to beg.
End of an era. Vinnie - It's over.
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Junior82
Legend
Three words: KEEP VINCE LIA
You cannot break my heart by letting him go, please. Willing to beg.
Hmmmm.
Grooming.... bedding in.....?
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