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bwtcf wrote:

No, not a foreign concept at all. I get it. 

We (Nola and I) talked about how how people feel disloacted when they lose a club they are passionate about.

I know I felt aggreived when the Knights sent letters to the Kingz season ticket holders worded just assuming that as Kingz fans they would want to be Knights fans. I was hurting having lost the Kingz, and was relatively put off by that assumption...

<snip>

Sounds very similar to how I felt when the Newcastle Breakers were wound up. Not nice memories

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SurgeQld wrote:
Not seeing much love for the Knights, understandably... anyone else at their (and the A-league's) 1st game?

Was at both first games... both losses... can still see the boys running out at North Harbour to smoke machines and Phil Collins " In the Air Tonight". 

Wynton played well, Ivan and Chris too.

Happy teenage memories (17/18).

I got a signed letter from the team when I turned 21. Still proudly framed.

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Marto wrote:

SurgeQld wrote:
Not seeing much love for the Knights, understandably... anyone else at their (and the A-league's) 1st game?

Was at both first games... both losses... can still see the boys running out at North Harbour to smoke machines and Phil Collins " In the Air Tonight". 

Wynton played well, Ivan and Chris too.

Happy teenage memories (17/18).

I got a signed letter from the team when I turned 21. Still proudly framed.

Did Wynton play for the Knights? I thought he retired at the Kingz
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Nah.  That is Kingz 1st game.  Wynton, Vicelich and Jacko.

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Aaron Silva scored 11 goals that first year for the Kingz.

The Knights... Josh Rose goal after Sean Devine flick on. Ben Collett cleared off line. Robbie Middleby flattened the ref at the final whistle. Nearly 10,000 at Albany.

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oh yes shit i was at that first game but dont remember shit otherthan the fact there were actually some people at a game of soccer in auckland after many null years of attendance when the kingz were around. I also happen to remember the funny subway like business called "subz" or something that sponsored the knights. 

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Zeros subs.  The Philly Cheese Steak was excellent.

Incidentally, did I see Sean Devine was the new coach at Canterbury United?

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Marto wrote:

SurgeQld wrote:
Not seeing much love for the Knights, understandably... anyone else at their (and the A-league's) 1st game?

Was at both first games... both losses... can still see the boys running out at North Harbour to smoke machines and Phil Collins " In the Air Tonight". 

Wynton played well, Ivan and Chris too.

Happy teenage memories (17/18).

I got a signed letter from the team when I turned 21. Still proudly framed.

Did Wynton play for the Knights? I thought he retired at the Kingz

Knights first game had the likes of Hickey and Hay, not in the same league as the boys in the first Kingz game against Carlton.

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Have you thought about interviewing PROAK (Riccardo Ball) I think he worked as ground announcer at Kingz games.
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Hard News wrote:

Zeros subs.  The Philly Cheese Steak was excellent.

Incidentally, did I see Sean Devine was the new coach at Canterbury United?

Correct. Cue comedy laugh roll tape.
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Sean Devine Devine, he wears number ten not nine...

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Devine, Devine, he used to play for Barnet, he used to have a barnet...

WeeNix
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Found this beauty of an add today

Legend
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Sean Devine Devine, he wears number ten not nine...

I remember when we changed the lyrics to "na na na na na na na" instead of "he scores great goals all the time" and a few Exeter fans near us got all upset about it because he was an Exeter legend or something. I thought it was fair enough to do it given how shite he was for us.

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KG19 wrote:

Found this beauty of an add today

This is a fab ad. Good to see Buncy's not doing shinnies!

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Buffon II wrote:

Sean Devine Devine, he wears number ten not nine...

I remember when we changed the lyrics to "na na na na na na na" instead of "he scores great goals all the time" and a few Exeter fans near us got all upset about it because he was an Exeter legend or something. I thought it was fair enough to do it given how shite he was for us.

He wasn't an Exeter legend but did score the goal that earned Exeter a replay in the FA Cup later stages.  He made the club a big amount of coin hosting Man U in Exeter and playing at Old Trafford.

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KG19 wrote:

Found this beauty of an add today

Julio Cuello was not acting in this ad, he was actually doing his best to save those shots.

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sensational - god the 90s were great

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Ivan got better with age.

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He'll be a legend when he gets to my age!

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Knights RIP, our photo page of fun in the crowd at the last ever game..

http://plainsrangers.com/action40.html

Might be a sign as well, 2 - 0 against Perth!

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Observations:

Gerard Davis.

Michael Cartwright - His Mrs... wow!

Ivan's hair not a patch on what it is now.

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Knights RIP, our photo page of fun in the crowd at the last ever game..

http://plainsrangers.com/action40.html

Might be a sign as well, 2 - 0 against Perth!

Malik Buari!  Still remember that goals, first ever Knights win?  I was listening to that in the car down on Cambridge terrace.  God he was gash but great strike.

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Hard News wrote:

Ivan's hair not a patch on what it is now.

To be fair news.... those in glass houses...

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Buari only played 2nd season so not first goal.  He did score against Adelaide to break a ridiculous drought.

Ivan has reversed.  It looks scruffy there compared to the Silky locks he has now (or so I <3 Nix keeps reminding me).

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bwtcf wrote:

[quote=Hard News]

Ivan's hair not a patch on what it is now.

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Hard News wrote:

Buari only played 2nd season so not first goal.  He did score against Adelaide to break a ridiculous drought.

Ivan has reversed.  It looks scruffy there compared to the Silky locks he has now (or so I <3 Nix keeps reminding me).

Must have been first win that season?

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Every chance.  Think it was the 8th game in season 2.  What a Clusterfuck that was.

Took them 8 to get a win, then they lost 8 after that, only getting a win thanks to a Roar own goal.

http://www.ultimatenzsoccer.com/NZClubSoccer/id185...

The last 5 games were after the FFA pulled the licence.

Opinion Privileges revoked
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james dean wrote:

Hard News wrote:

Buari only played 2nd season so not first goal.  He did score against Adelaide to break a ridiculous drought.

Ivan has reversed.  It looks scruffy there compared to the Silky locks he has now (or so I <3 Nix keeps reminding me).

Must have been first win that season?

It was first ever win at home. The 1 win in the first season was on the road.

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Hard News wrote:

Every chance.  Think it was the 8th game in season 2.  What a Clusterfuck that was.

Took them 8 to get a win, then they lost 8 after that, only getting a win thanks to a Roar own goal.

http://www.ultimatenzsoccer.com/NZClubSoccer/id185...

The last 5 games were after the FFA pulled the licence.

I still maintain there's a great book in all of the Kingz/Knights/Phoenix stuff.  Just need 6 months gardening leave...and a good researcher

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james dean wrote:

Hard News wrote:

Every chance.  Think it was the 8th game in season 2.  What a Clusterfuck that was.

Took them 8 to get a win, then they lost 8 after that, only getting a win thanks to a Roar own goal.

http://www.ultimatenzsoccer.com/NZClubSoccer/id185...

The last 5 games were after the FFA pulled the licence.

I still maintain there's a great book in all of the Kingz/Knights/Phoenix stuff.  Just need 6 months gardening leave...and a good researcher

I reckon the McIlroys are holed up in some Nth Shore dive working on it. Slowly.

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Probs the family home in Northcote.

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My (partial) memories of the Kingz/Bloc......

I remember going to NHS, and trying to sit in behind Richard, Mike and their friend (also called Mike?) no one stood there at the time - the three of them were Bloc(k) 5 in the beginning. the chanting was minimal, as you'd expect with 3 people in those early days. I remember one match someone kept on playing the ball backwards and I grumbled, and Rich said "play the way you face", to which I replied " the player should face the other fudgeing way" #bantz

I didn't go to many games at NHS, as I live(d) in Papakura - so was more than happy the Kingz moved to Mt Smart - that's where I really joined the Bloc. There was a pre-season match against someone (a local club team?), and I remember earlier in the day I posted on the "Stand Up" forum that Paston was a good keeper. Some dude called DRX (oh Mr Cross.....) ridiculed my assertions over Paston loudly not knowing I was nearby. How did that go Dave? ;)

It's all a bit fuzzy now.....I remember the Japanese Appreciation Night, and the Viking hats for the 2 Norweigan boys, both of whom were shark. Oh! And Gay Pride night for when Eastern Pride came to town, and I wore a boob tube. And the time I got the Holmes show along....Pete Cronshaw I think was the reporter. Wazza gave a great reply when Cronshaw asked "what do you say that soccer is only kiss and cuddle?" Waz replied straight away "isn't rugby all grab and grope?". Sharp.

I remember the bloody postie.....what was his name? Worzel Gummidge lookalike, loved Man U - only rode a bike? Anyway, we bought each other beers all night one week, and I thought he was a good bloke. I didn't know he only rode, so he was ok - meanwhile, I'm struggling to see my car let alone the road.....misspent youth and all that. There was always a lot of drink at the Kingz. A lot of drink. It probably helped to get through the 90 minutes.

The confetti! Oh, the fudgeing confetti! You quickly learned to cover your beers when the confetti was around. Who brought it in? Grant? And it would be only your body for days/weeks after! Standing at the traffic lights, having a sneeze, and *bang* there's a halo of confetti on the footpath - a week after the match.

It was good times in the Bloc, in it's heyday - you'd have to get there pretty early to get a spot.....or be one of the "main" guys, and you could turn up late and you'd get pulled in (which was lucky for me). One game I turned up from cricket (long time player) with my pads on and in full whites - luckily the cricket match was washed out and I shot off to Mt Smart

We all went down to Wellington (twice?) - couldn't get into the Cake Tin so we had a sit down protest till CT talked the goons into letting us in. I remember people looking at us on the concourse, with our Bloc 5 shirts on, saying "there's those guys"....that was a bit cool. And singing Auckland Kingz, while the Brooklyn boys were throwing shark at us, and Rich trying to shoosh me. Another time, we stayed at some backpackers the other side of town once, and Rich and I were the last ones back and we forgot the code to get in, so we had ring and wake someone up (cant remember who). The dorm door was a curtain, and when you pulled it back the odour of a dozen smelly guys made you wish you were still on Lambton Quay......I somehow pulled both calf muscles overnight, and flew back the next day (Sat morning) and played cricket by fielding in the same spot all game and occasionally falling over.

The trip to Hamilton was fun too, we sung "Shake It Up Baby" for what seemed like half an hour, everyone taking turns at being the leader.

The Stand Up forum was a good little site, and everyone knew each other (as Brandon said earlier). A lot of us were about the same age, give or take, and would go to each others houses......we would also go into town to watch away matches, and grab a kebab (my first kebab!). That's where I started calling Jeremy Christie "Plodder", and came up with the Andy Bluhm chant (a fan fave, even though it was quickly taken off the site by Stack). There was someone calling himself "carefree" who only seemed to be on there to moan about us.....

Brandon started that "How do you spell "referee" chant.....that was a bit on the nose hahahaha. As was my chant about General Pinochet during the Chile U23 match

I know Wynton comes in for a lot of stick, but he was all class on the field - was it against Melbourne he scored a double to win the match? That was a hell of a match, in the rain. Wynton Rufer is easily the best player to play for an NZ club side in Aussie.

It was really sad what happened in the end.....I remember I got us special permission to stand on the "opposite" side of the ground at Mt Smart, just as it was getting torn down for a 1982 All Whites Appreciation Day. Kingz probably lost that match. The ground announcer said "thank you to the 1200 people who turned up", but as we looked over to the main stand - no lie, there was no more than 40 people.

In the end, the Hamilton peeps didn't come up - I think Dave moved to Wellington by then. Everyone started to give up. Bloc 5 was literally 5 people at the end; Ric and Mike, me and Karl, and Milts. And then Milts left......other people came in, but some of those guys were real dicks. Who was that young guy with blond hair?

Then they moved to NHS (was it then they took the Knights name?), and I just couldn't be arsed anymore.

When ACFC started, me, Karl, Rich and Mike met up in Little India in Kingsland and I suggested that we start a new Bloc.....I wanted to call it something lame like the B-Team or something.....Rich (and Mike?) came up with the 248 Service Crew pretty soon after, and the rest is history. I went to the first match, but never went back - playing cricket clashed with the times, and I preferred to be sending down some dobblies.....but it wasn't the same, not for me anyway.

I'd need to look at some old postings, or talk to guys to remember a lot more.....but they were good days. Even though the Kingz were really shark, and the crowds were really shark, and everything was just generally shark......they were real good times.....Rich and Mike deserve a lot of credit for virtually inventing the "NZ football fan" as we now know it. Those guys, along with many others who I wont name for fear of missing someone out, really took NZ sports crowd support to a whole new level (without whom I doubt the YF would be around in it's present form - in some form, no doubt, but maybe a lesser form)

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I just remembered something 10 mins after posting this - remember when Rich met that bird......and she was alright......and bam, he's off to a wine-tasting on Waiheke instead of being at the Kingzfor a week.....so none of us are infallible! haha

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Baz - the postie was Baz.

Does Stack (or anyone) have a photo of the Bloc when it was rocking? (maybe taken from the track?)

LG
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Thanks Rusty for a really good read. a few chuckles and a lot of history fan related explained.

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That was an awesome read.

Who out of these guys (aside from HN) are involved with the Fever now? 

Where are "Rich" and "Mike" these days?

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I think BWTCF (Brandon) is down in Wellington now, and from what I've read here he is on the periphery of YF? But those postings were from 2014, so maybe he's more integrated now?

Mike and Rich are still the hardcore-core of the 248 Service Crew. I see them on TV every now and then. In my mind I see Nola there too, but don't know if that's because of reality or he's somehow become imprinted on my mind. I really hope its the former.

Just to make a couple of things clear - Milts didn't just "leave", he emigrated to Saudi or the UAE or somewhere. If he could have made it back for a game, he would have. Top guy Milts, and loves his NZ football - anyone who has watched the videos he produced would attest to that (Dunedin Tech Season Review, and I think there was a championship season review too?). And the Bloc carried on at NHS during that ill-fated Knights phase; I never went as I didn't much like some of the newer guys (though I'm sure they were nice chaps and all that), wasn't up for the long drive and, the most important thing, my team was the Kingz - not the Knights. They might as well have been Sydney for all I cared. But the Bloc lived on for that season back at NHS

Looking back on it now, there are a lot of things that the Kingz and the Bloc could have done better.....and some things that the Bloc seem to have done better than YF (looking from the outside) - for instance, I think there was a lot more humour in the Bloc than in YF. Note that's just my perspective and not based on any fact.....just seems that sometimes YF seems a bit self-important. Having said that, I'm reminded of the joke Martin (Tunnel Rat) said - how many Bloc 5 members does it take to change a lightbulb? A: One of them, and the rest to sing about it. Should also mention that Bloc 5 wasn't the only fan group for the Kingz - there were the Tunnel Rats and Block 23. Not sure how the Rats started, but Martin Sutcliffe was involved - he was the guitarist for local funk band The Hot Grits. Block 23 was mainly younger guys, teenagers, on the other side of the pitch at Mt Smart. I think Stack was like a quasi-bridge between Bloc 5 and Block 23 - would that be right?

It's hard to imagine a car door being dumped in the centre circle at the Cake Tin! One of the most surreal moments in NZ sport. Rob's humour was pretty out there. He once rang me up from a different number, yelling and accusing me of sleeping with his wife......before he said "oh hey man, it's Rob", and letting me know it was a joke. Gallows humour!

The initials of the Kingz - K.F.C - why didn't we make more use of that??? CT could have been the Colonel, or maybe Harry Ngata? (surely the essence of a Bloc 5'er on the field?) . CT once threatened me with legal action over some piffling thing. But it was like that, even the CEO knew who people were and had their phone number. We might as well have been a small village.

The Bloc was also a bit sweary.....so while we had an image of the "hot new underground thing" in Auckland (we would often see people who obv weren't football fans mooching about - there were girls who looked like they just came from CBGBs in the 70s), we probably drove them away with being a bit......not sure of the right word here. Provocative? Non-inclusive? Certainly not family-friendly. It would be a hard thing to say cliquey, but I could see how people thought that......we all knew each other you see......maybe more effort could have been done to be more 'of the people'? Who knows. I think Rich made an effort to go and talk to people, but the rest of us could have been more open. At the end of the day, we were there to have a good time and support our team and didn't pay any mind to anything else, which is how it's meant to be?

Chris Knox (The King of Auckland) was there too at the end - and we'd all sing Not Given Lightly to him. I read that Jeremy Eade from Garageland would go too, but I don't think I saw him. The Bloc at Mt Smart was just a small area, and vision to the upper stands was non-existent. There were a lot of Britpop and bFM references going on too.

It's also hard to imagine now that the Kingz also had a link-up with Chelsea! What was that about? Imagine todays Chelsea throwing loadsamoney at the Phoenix! It wasn't like that back in the day. I don't know what either side got out of that arrangement. Crazy.

It would be cool to think that at the Kingz 20th Anniversary, the Phoenix would wear a homage shirt (remember that god-awful Canterbury deign from the 1st season? Maybe a riff on that, using the Phoenix colours). And if it could be arranged that Team Wellington played ACFC as a curtain raiser, then Mike and Rich (and others?) could be there, and the two fan cultures could be merged? As Bowie said "we could (all!) be heroes, just for one day......"

WeeNix
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Hard News wrote:

bwtcf wrote:

nightz wrote:

I might have a bit of stuff/vids floating around that I picked up on a couple of trips to Auckland.

Okay, let's see how good the memory is...

Back row: Geoff (Robin's husband), ?, Streee-eetched to the Limit, Nola, ?,?, Ejit?, nightz, ?

Front row: Ally, Dion , ? Andy Spirite, ?, ?, Stack


That's all I can fill in.

There are a few more.

No way that goalie is Eejit......I don't know who that is, but it ain't Eejit. Eejit's face is burnt into my mind as he gave me a big sloppy kiss for dropping him off at the Horse & Trap. A man doesnt forget that.

Karl is next to Stack. Karl and I would come in from Papakura.....we'd swap turns at driving. I would drink more than Karl, so he was probably quite happy when he drove in.

That guy behind Stack was in and around the Bloc.....what was his name? So was the guy between Geoff and Chris

Spirite Andy - what a player he was.....crisp striker of the ball

Appiah without the pace
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Milts is around. He posts here every now and again. Still doing his videos.

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Interesting stuff

btw I didn't draw on anything around this when I formed YF as I didn't know about it

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