Reserve or Yoof teams

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How have you guys been noticing growth among your players in your B teams?

 

Not sure how it works, but it seems that play time = Growth in the amount of precious stars the have? One of my players has gained a whole star.. Maybe I'm just imagining shit?

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That player probably hit their bloom period,which is when they develop the most. 

The only real advantage of a B team is extra routine for your developing players. Which is a pretty big advantage actually. 

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So will they ever actually reach their full potential? How long does it take?

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It depends,they can bloom early,normally or late! Scout them to find out. Or check their TI if you have pro. 

It takes a much shorter time now that new youths are recruited as age 18 rather than 16-17 like they used to be. 

I think generally they go until have a star of their potential,then take a little longer for the last half star. Depends on training facilities and coaches too. If you have a 5 star youth,but no facilities or coaches,you're almost better off just selling him for a tonne perhaps,then using that money to buy a finished product. Haven't had that decision with my Wellington Phoenix side yet. 

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Azevo
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Am also curious as to why I was given a free goal keeper haha.

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You get crap players if you don't have enough to fill your team.

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Azevo
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Awesome, so can I potentially sell him? Infinite wealth cheat. 

 

Though, lets be honest, no one would buy him... Plus he is retiring at the end of the season mesthinks.. who knows. Haven't really looked at him, he'snot even my back up keeper, some defensive midfielder is.

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Plus he's costing you 30k per week! 

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Does the pool of yoof available on saturdays become better if my academy is of a higher level currently i'm building level 4 but the talent isn't much better than when i was on level one will i only see real talent if i build up to level 10 ?

also did it always cost 2 pro points for younger youth ?

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It increase slightly,but also the recommendation is more accurate. You also get more youths per week the higher you go. The younger talent thing is a vaguely long story,but basically: every youth you pulled use to be a 'younger talent' at age 16ish. TM decided to improve this as they said it was boring it took two seasons before you could sell,and longer still before they're first team ready. Their solution was to make youth pulls 18 instead of 16,they said the players 

would still work out to be just as good. Some people didn't understand this and kept moaning how their youths wouldn't be as good anymore. so TM in a bit of a smartass move,made the option younger youth pulls costing pro days. If you believe TM,there is no advantage

 To pulling younger guys,except maybe a couple of years extra in their career. 

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Guess we could uses this as a reserves as well as a youth intake thread? (Patrick could change the title to something suitable?)

I see TTU pulled a 4.5 star on the weekend. Lucky bastard. 

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Sounds good, I need a place to rant about continually getting 1.5 star players.

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My youth accademy is up to level 8 and my training is up to level 9, and it is now starting to deliver.

Two of my first team players are youth graduates now. Jimmy McCann is my OML - he's 20 and still developing but already 3 stars and a free kick danger (16).

Even more promising is Tim Hickey my centre midfielder who is 4.5 stars potential and coming on in leaps and bounds.

Looking forward to the next stellar draw...

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I'm getting some reasonable potential players through witha level 6 academy and level 5 training. I'd like to get more but can't afford it, end of season sponsor money is going to be a huge help.

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I downgraded my youth facilities from 7 to 6 to save cash - $1,350,000 pw to be exact. Got sick of paying the money, getting guys come through either only being 2-2.5 stars or saying they will be 3-3.5 and then when I get them into my squad all my scouts saying they are only 2.5. It was just pissing me off. The only youth player I've ever pulled who's got into my 1st team on even a semi-regular basis was the very first youth player I ever pulled when I had a 1 star setup anyway.

I figure the actual difference in the odds of getting a quality youngster between a 6/10 and 7/10 youth setup doesn't justify spending an extra $16m a season.

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Agree with that. Sensible. I think at a level below premiership/top of championship there are a lot of kiwi players floating about on the transfer market. 

However above that, there isn't a lot. So what I'd save on maintenance, I'd end up paying in over the top transfer fees to get a kiwi player, and bidding against clubs with a lot more money. I've also found since taking the plunge and upgrading all the way that I've pulled more 3-3.5 potential players, which I then sell straight away for a profit. So that recoups some of the cost. 

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yeah, I've upgraded my training facilities to 6 now too so that the couple of youngsters I have got through with 3.5 star potential should at least get a bit closer to that mark, and so it can start to be worth me buying youngsters with potential rather than waiting for the randomness of youth academy production to turn out in my favour.

As well as downgrading my youth academy I've also built a team around a solid defensive base and quick counterattacks and plan to continue to utilise that approach. I care greatly about the league table. I splashed a lot of cash on a foreign striker who was much better than any of my current options. I've never read Moneyball but I  think it's potential application to running football clubs is probably minimal. Plus I like cats and don't really care whether native bird species survive or not beyond zoos and predator-free zones like Zealandia. 

Basically I'm the anti-Gareth Morgan.

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Every week I look forward to new youth players, every week I get mad after picking up a 0.5 star player.

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I think I have been approaching youth recruits the wrong way.

I have been only hiring good prospects, thinking I'll develop them.

I think, with a high investment in youth and training facilities I need to recruit ALL players who are even halfway decent and if they are not ones I want to keep, put them up for sale to generate cashflow...

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 Exciting times for Peow FC as our star graduate looks to make his move into the first team in the next few games.

46. Duncan Abbott
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ClubPeow FC Reserves Age21 Years 9 Months Height / Weight170cm / 71 kg Wage152,016 Recommendation Skill Index5,340 Status Routine15.5
Skills Strength15 Passing10 Stamina12 Crossing5 Pace15 Technique12 Marking4 Heading10 Tackling7 Finishing17 Workrate6 Longshots13 Positioning5 Set Pieces9

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