Feel like that last game we were extra physical than normal but the ref let it slide. Im sure there will be stats on which ref has given out the most cards - even more interesting would be to see the split of cards he has awarded to each team
General A-League discussion
Are there any stats on which refs where more card happy than others?
Ultimate A-League has career stats, but not per season. I have tweeted them to ask if its possible to get per season.
Ok so it breaks down like this
Gillett - 5.17
Beath - 6
Millner - 5
Delovski - 4.41
GJ - 5.9
Williams - 5.1
Green - 4.58
Laverdue - 5.13
Hayward - 6.5
Evans - 3.71
O'Leary - 3.8
Kersey - 3.8
Queffelic - 8
Gillett M - 3
McGilchrist - 6
I guess if you look at the top 7 in terms of games done, Green and Delovski are the ones that keep the cards in their pocket.
Gillett makes it 6 reds in 18 games now.
Ok so it breaks down like this
Gillett - 5.17
Beath - 6
Millner - 5
Delovski - 4.41
GJ - 5.9
Williams - 5.1
Green - 4.58
Laverdue - 5.13
Hayward - 6.5
Evans - 3.71
O'Leary - 3.8
Kersey - 3.8
Queffelic - 8
Gillett M - 3
McGilchrist - 6
I guess if you look at the top 7 in terms of games done, Green and Delovski are the ones that keep the cards in their pocket.
Perhaps not-so-coincidentally Green and Delovski are the two best refs in the league, to my mind at least.
Ignoring his less than stellar showing in the recent AWs game, Stebre is obviously well respected by A League players and controls the game with calm authority. He's consistent and dodgy decisions are few and far between. Green is very good too. He has a knack of making himself largely invisible. No stamping his personality on the game, no long schoolmasterly lectures when they aren't warranted, no smirking and patting players a la Ben Williams, very few of the kind of crazy, bolt from the blue howlers that have ruined many a game this season.
One positive thing I will say about A League reffing this season is that the playing of advantage has definitely helped the flow of the game and has generally been used very well by all refs.
Ok so it breaks down like this
Gillett - 5.17
Beath - 6
Millner - 5
Delovski - 4.41
GJ - 5.9
Williams - 5.1
Green - 4.58
Laverdue - 5.13
Hayward - 6.5
Evans - 3.71
O'Leary - 3.8
Kersey - 3.8
Queffelic - 8
Gillett M - 3
McGilchrist - 6
I guess if you look at the top 7 in terms of games done, Green and Delovski are the ones that keep the cards in their pocket.
Perhaps not-so-coincidentally Green and Delovski are the two best refs in the league, to my mind at least.
Ignoring his less than stellar showing in the recent AWs game, Stebre is obviously well respected by A League players and controls the game with calm authority. He's consistent and dodgy decisions are few and far between. Green is very good too. He has a knack of making himself largely invisible. No stamping his personality on the game, no long schoolmasterly lectures when they aren't warranted, no smirking and patting players a la Ben Williams, very few of the kind of crazy, bolt from the blue howlers that have ruined many a game this season.
One positive thing I will say about A League reffing this season is that the playing of advantage has definitely helped the flow of the game and has generally been used very well by all refs.
Just realised thats the 2nd time in a knock out game that Gillett has ruled a late penalty thats been dodgy against Perth. If one were to speculate.....
Foxtel Investing 20 Million into Junior Football in Aussie....
Foxtel Investing 20 Million into Junior Football in Aussie....
Rupert Murdock has just been on TV and announced this deal over 4 years.
Foxtel has partnered with Football Federation Australia for a new deal including naming rights and the establishment of a new grass-roots football program.
The Foxtel All-Stars will play Manchester United in Sydney in July, while the Pay TV provider also gets naming rights for the Foxtel National Youth League.
Over the next four years Foxtel will invest over $20 million dollars into supporting football in Australia, including an exciting new grassroots and development program to help to grow the game.
Foxtel is proud to join forces with Socceroos superstar Tim Cahill for an exciting initiative, the Foxtel All Stars Ambition Program which will reach kids and clubs all over Australia seeking to provide young players with the inspiration to be their best and follow their football ambitions.
Other aspects of the partnership include a naming rights sponsorship of the newly formed Foxtel All-Stars, who will play Manchester United here in Sydney in July and a naming rights partnership for the Foxtel National Youth League.
Foxtel Chief Executive Richard Freudenstein said: “We at Foxtel believe participation in sport is a vital part of the Australian culture and we think we have an important role to play inspiring a new generation of football fans and players.
“It’s no secret that Foxtel is a huge supporter of Australian football. Since the inception of the Hyundai A-League in 2005, we have been committed to taking the game to the next level and our long association, along with our partner Fox Sports, has given our customers the best viewer experience in Australia.
“This new program takes us full circle with our involvement in football, from development and grassroots to our live and extensive broadcast of every single A-League match, in HD and without ad-breaks and our extensive live coverage of the Qantas Socceroos as they strive to qualify for next year’s FIFA World Cup.”
FFA Chief Executive David Gallop said: “Football has 1.7 million participants across Australia and the majority are young players who enjoy a game that is skilful, safe and accessible to boys and girls.
“I’m delighted that Foxtel will be a partner in community football and will give 1,000 young players a special opportunity to be a part of the Foxtel All Stars Academy with Tim Cahill.
“At the elite level, it’s great to have Foxtel behind the A-League All Stars and backing the next generation of stars in the Foxtel National Youth League. Today marks another big step forward for football in Australia.”
Socceroo Tim Cahill said: “I’m thrilled to join Foxtel for this exciting new initiative and program. My passion is to increase the footprint of football in Australia and I’m excited that Foxtel share the same enthusiasm I have for growing the game. To me it’s a perfect partnership that will deliver what is needed to provide children of Australia a fun and active way of enjoying football.”
The project will see the introduction of the Foxtel All-Stars Academy and the Foxtel All-Stars Ambitions Tour.
The Foxtel All-Stars Academy will be offered free to 1,000 kids around Australia with ten two-day clinics in capital cities and regional centres. Would-be participants will be asked to share stories of their passion for the game and then selected to join these school holiday camps that will include all aspects of football preparation and training.
Foxtel and the Tim Cahill Coaching Clinic will work together to create and manage these camps and other elements of the extensive program.
Freudenstein said: “Tim Cahill shares Foxtel’s passion for grassroots football and has been an amazing ambassador for Australian football both here and around the world, playing a key role in growing participation in the game. It’s fantastic to have such an iconic Australian hero be part of this.”
The Foxtel All-Stars Ambitions Tour is another strand of the program and will be a week-long intensive experience for young future potential superstars of the game, who might otherwise not get an opportunity to develop their skills. The program will choose 30 girls and boys, aged between 10-15 years and host them at a specially designed and created week-long football academy during the A-League season.
Throughout the week participants will get access to experts across all facets of the game and competition as well as advice on exactly what it takes to reach the elite level of football.
“We see the importance of engaging with passionate, talented young football players, especially those from disadvantaged backgrounds, and giving some of them the chance to be part of something very special,” said Freudenstein.
http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2013/04/foxtel-kicks-off-ffa-deal-for-foxtel-all-stars.html
An Australia Day grand final in 2015 is set to be the
showpiece of the inaugural FFA Cup, which will finally kick-off this
time next year, Football Federation Australia boss David Gallop has
announced.
The much-anticipated knockout tournament, based on England's FA Cup, will feature around 700 teams across Australia with the A-League sides to join in September and October at the same time as their season starts.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-10/ffa-cup-set-to-kick-off-next-year/4620966?section=sport
So Gillett has been stood down by FFA, according to Perth's FB page
GILLETT STOOD DOWN AS FFA ADMIT ERROR ON PENALTY
''There's no doubt, with all the footage available, that the Victory player (Nabbout) did control the ball with his arm," A-League boss Damien de Bohun.
Jarred Gillett has been dropped from referring any games this weekend.
He was not appointed anyway... Big whoopie about nothing. Taking the handball aside, it was not even a penalty.
I think the way that Sage and Perth have handled this incident has been disgraceful.
I think the way that Sage and Perth have handled this incident has been disgraceful.
I have not see anything so I am intrigued in what you have but I would say, if you are knocked out 2 years in a row, with a very late penalty that is shown to be incorrect both times, by the same referee both times, what conclusion would you draw?
Last year's penalty was a penalty.
Last year's penalty was a penalty.
Don't know how anyone can consider that minuscule contact worthy of a pen, unless you're a Roar supporter of course.
Because that contact caused him to plant his foot on the ball, the ball then bobbled because of that, and he air swung because the ball was in the air.
Last year's penalty was a penalty.
Totally agree.
Because that contact caused him to plant his foot on the ball, the ball then bobbled because of that, and he air swung because the ball was in the air.
Totally agree
Just to illustrate
And of course the only person that matters in this decision is the ref, regardless of the fact that most people might think they are poor.
Because that contact caused him to plant his foot on the ball, the ball then bobbled because of that, and he air swung because the ball was in the air.
Agree 100%.
I got a hell of a lot of abuse on twitter after last years grand final for saying that Gillett got it right for the reasons you stated after seeing it on the replays.
This year, Gillett got it completely wrong. it was handball, so he shouldn't have even had to make a decision on the penalty at all (which, for the record, he got wrong as well).
I think the way that Sage and Perth have handled this incident has been disgraceful.
I have not see anything so I am intrigued in what you have but I would say, if you are knocked out 2 years in a row, with a very late penalty that is shown to be incorrect both times, by the same referee both times, what conclusion would you draw?
We all know that the Hand of Payne goal should never have stood, but did you see Terry and Tony P out in the media after the game condeming the referee and saying he should never visit Wellington again? Nope.
Perth and Sage can feel how they want, but these concerns should be made in private to the FFA, not the media. Nothing is achieved by going to the media.
Just watched the vid again and still completely disagree with the decision. His left foot recovered, he had it planted on the ground, he just made a meal of the swing. Still dont believe the contact had anything to do with him being unbalanced. His fall just wasnt natural given the angle of the challenge and extent of contact made.
The thing is though - its the refs interpretation, whether i agree with it or not. Theres no real rule for what is or isnt a penalty in this exact situation. Contact was made - refs call. So by the rule book, Gillett has done nothing wrong. Personally i just dont like this 'form' of refereeing where every little piece of contact is picked at and dissected and dealt with under a microscope. I just feel like he doesnt let enough go, hes too critical.
Just watched the vid again and still completely disagree with the decision. His left foot recovered, he had it planted on the ground, he just made a meal of the swing. Still dont believe the contact had anything to do with him being unbalanced. His fall just wasnt natural given the angle of the challenge and extent of contact made.
We aren't talking about his balance. Watch the ball itself, and ask yourself why does it bobble like that? There's nothing wrong with the pitch. His foot was fouled into the path of the ball, which caused the bobble.
We aren't talking about his balance. Watch the ball itself, and ask yourself why does it bobble like that? There's nothing wrong with the pitch. His foot was fouled into the path of the ball, which caused the bobble.
Still not buying it. If that's why the pen was awarded, and If he stayed on his feet, would it have still been given? Highly doubt it. What sold the pen was the fall. I read a lot of stuff during the aftermath of this and Im pretty sure Berisha himself said he was just tripped, cannot recall him saying anything re: the bobble.
Not a penalty for all the rice in China.
Not a penalty for all the rice in China.
I find that racist.
Because that contact caused him to plant his foot on the ball, the ball then bobbled because of that, and he air swung because the ball was in the air.
Correct. Can't understand people still whining about it.
Edit: Not talking about those who don't think its a penalty but more the Perth and anti Brisbane fans on other forums who just can't let it go.
We aren't talking about his balance. Watch the ball itself, and ask yourself why does it bobble like that? There's nothing wrong with the pitch. His foot was fouled into the path of the ball, which caused the bobble.
Still not buying it. If that's why the pen was awarded, and If he stayed on his feet, would it have still been given? Highly doubt it. What sold the pen was the fall. I read a lot of stuff during the aftermath of this and Im pretty sure Berisha himself said he was just tripped, cannot recall him saying anything re: the bobble.
Have you ever taken a massive air swing caused by a bobble? I have, and it sends you way off balance just like happened to Berisha.
We aren't talking about his balance. Watch the ball itself, and ask yourself why does it bobble like that? There's nothing wrong with the pitch. His foot was fouled into the path of the ball, which caused the bobble.
Still not buying it. If that's why the pen was awarded, and If he stayed on his feet, would it have still been given? Highly doubt it. What sold the pen was the fall. I read a lot of stuff during the aftermath of this and Im pretty sure Berisha himself said he was just tripped, cannot recall him saying anything re: the bobble.
Have you ever taken a massive air swing caused by a bobble? I have, and it sends you way off balance just like happened to Berisha.
And then you look like a plonker.
We still arguing about this ? wow.
We aren't talking about his balance. Watch the ball itself, and ask yourself why does it bobble like that? There's nothing wrong with the pitch. His foot was fouled into the path of the ball, which caused the bobble.
Still not buying it. If that's why the pen was awarded, and If he stayed on his feet, would it have still been given? Highly doubt it. What sold the pen was the fall. I read a lot of stuff during the aftermath of this and Im pretty sure Berisha himself said he was just tripped, cannot recall him saying anything re: the bobble.
Have you ever taken a massive air swing caused by a bobble? I have, and it sends you way off balance just like happened to Berisha.
This.
I cannot answer that
We aren't talking about his balance. Watch the ball itself, and ask yourself why does it bobble like that? There's nothing wrong with the pitch. His foot was fouled into the path of the ball, which caused the bobble.
Still not buying it. If that's why the pen was awarded, and If he stayed on his feet, would it have still been given? Highly doubt it. What sold the pen was the fall. I read a lot of stuff during the aftermath of this and Im pretty sure Berisha himself said he was just tripped, cannot recall him saying anything re: the bobble.
Have you ever taken a massive air swing caused by a bobble? I have, and it sends you way off balance just like happened to Berisha.
And then you look like a plonker.
Agreed.
I think the way that Sage and Perth have handled this incident has been disgraceful.
I have not see anything so I am intrigued in what you have but I would say, if you are knocked out 2 years in a row, with a very late penalty that is shown to be incorrect both times, by the same referee both times, what conclusion would you draw?
We all know that the Hand of Payne goal should never have stood, but did you see Terry and Tony P out in the media after the game condeming the referee and saying he should never visit Wellington again? Nope.
Perth and Sage can feel how they want, but these concerns should be made in private to the FFA, not the media. Nothing is achieved by going to the media.
Yet Durrante criticising a ref and the officials after a game earlier this season was completely acceptable? Hell, it was so acceptable we were raising money to pay any fine he got for it
I heard the A-League awards are tonight, so what are peoples tips? Fair Play & Golden Boot have known criteria, so are easy to work out.
Fair Play Award - Brisbane Roar
Golden Boot - McBreen
Foreign Player of the Year - McGlinchey
Goal of the Year - Ono's 1st v Victory, Rnd 14
Goalkeeper of the Year - Covic
Johnny Warren Medal - McGlinchey
Manager of the Year - Popovic
Referee of the Year - Milliner
Young Footballer - Sainsbury
I want McGlinchey to get Foreign player of the year and think he should, but I am pretty sure it will go to ADP, ugh.
I'd agree with all your other tips. I think McGlinchey deserves the awards though :)
I want McGlinchey to get Foreign player of the year and think he should, but I am pretty sure it will go to ADP, ugh.
I'd agree with all your other tips. I think McGlinchey deserves the awards though :)