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Marto wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

Feverish wrote:

General Q: globally, what are the leagues that have a primarily FA run league v other, and do these leagues incorporate wimmin,yoof? 

/any other general info

The Premier League, etc is FA controlled but with a board involving all clubss, but appears to have regular disputes between FA and Club board members.(From what I can find) 

O got the impression that the Prem was largely independent of the FA.  Either way, from the Championship down all men's footie is run by the FA and all women's and youth run by the FA.

After your comment looked a little harder:The Member Clubs of the Premier League

The Premier League is a private company wholly owned by its 20 Member Clubs who make up the League at any one time.

Each individual club is independent, working within the rules of football, as defined by the Premier League, The FA, UEFA and FIFA, as well being subject to English and European law.

Each of the 20 clubs are a Shareholder in the Premier League. Consultation is at the heart of the Premier League and Shareholder meetings are the ultimate decision-making forum for Premier League policy and are held at regular intervals during the course of the season.

The Premier League AGM takes place at the close of each season, at which time the relegated clubs transfer their shares to the clubs promoted into the Premier League from the Football League Championship.

Clubs have the opportunity to propose new rules or amendments at the Shareholder meeting. Each Member Club is entitled to one vote and all rule changes and major commercial contracts require the support of at least a two-thirds vote, or 14 clubs, to be agreed.

The Premier League Rule Book serves as a contract between the League, the Member Clubs and one another, defining the structure and running of the competition.

Any serious breach of the Rule Book results in an independent three-person tribunal sitting to hear the case, ascertain guilt and set the punishment, which can range from fines to points deductions and, in extreme cases, expulsion from the competition (this has never happened in the history of the Premier League)

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@skynz verse @fox  Has the FFA given any credit to sky for the NZ portion  of Super rugby ? 

Imagine FOX sending or contracting a full crew to cover the NZ franchises Just ?????

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Blew.2 wrote:

Marto wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

Feverish wrote:

General Q: globally, what are the leagues that have a primarily FA run league v other, and do these leagues incorporate wimmin,yoof? 

/any other general info

The Premier League, etc is FA controlled but with a board involving all clubss, but appears to have regular disputes between FA and Club board members.(From what I can find) 

O got the impression that the Prem was largely independent of the FA.  Either way, from the Championship down all men's footie is run by the FA and all women's and youth run by the FA.

After your comment looked a little harder:

The Member Clubs of the Premier League

The Premier League is a private company wholly owned by its 20 Member Clubs who make up the League at any one time.

Each individual club is independent, working within the rules of football, as defined by the Premier League, The FA, UEFA and FIFA, as well being subject to English and European law.

Each of the 20 clubs are a Shareholder in the Premier League. Consultation is at the heart of the Premier League and Shareholder meetings are the ultimate decision-making forum for Premier League policy and are held at regular intervals during the course of the season.

The Premier League AGM takes place at the close of each season, at which time the relegated clubs transfer their shares to the clubs promoted into the Premier League from the Football League Championship.

Clubs have the opportunity to propose new rules or amendments at the Shareholder meeting. Each Member Club is entitled to one vote and all rule changes and major commercial contracts require the support of at least a two-thirds vote, or 14 clubs, to be agreed.

The Premier League Rule Book serves as a contract between the League, the Member Clubs and one another, defining the structure and running of the competition.

Any serious breach of the Rule Book results in an independent three-person tribunal sitting to hear the case, ascertain guilt and set the punishment, which can range from fines to points deductions and, in extreme cases, expulsion from the competition (this has never happened in the history of the Premier League)

Exactly as I thought.  Completely independent.  Thanks Blew.2.

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Blew.2 wrote:

@skynz verse @fox  Has the FFA given any credit to sky for the NZ portion  of Super rugby ? 

Imagine FOX sending or contracting a full crew to cover the NZ franchises Just ?????

Fox sport

"The Australian Rugby Union has made a NZ$293m broadcasting rights deal with Fox Sports"  2016/20

"The deal marks the third major football broadcast agreement this year in Australia, with the National Rugby League securing A$1.8 billion (NZ$1.9b) over five years and the Australian Football League signing a A$2.5b (NZ$2.7b) six year deal earlier this year."

Put Fox input into The A-League in perspective

FFA land $346 million A-League broadcast deal with Fox Sports
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Blew.2 wrote:

Congress Review Working Group 

AFPCA:

Gregg Griffin

Simon Pearce

Federations:

Football New South Wales

Football Federation South Australia

Football Federation Victoria

Football West (Western Australia)

PFA:

To be confirmed

FFA:

To be confirmed 

Chairman:

To be confirmed 

  Season is over this weekend. Will we see the other candidates names soon. Meetings to organise and coordinate so all can attend to meet the below deadlines!

The Working Group is required to submit its proposal to FIFA/AFC by the end of July with adoption at a Special General Meeting of FFA by no later than 7 September 2018.

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Here's Lucy

"To the fans, players, club administrators and officials who have continued to turn-up every week this season, I want to say thank you because even in the face of adversity, your commitment hasn’t wavered and it’s been a sound lesson for all of us."

O'Rouke MarKey $ Chest

"The commercial view is this is going to cost us money."

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Global Game wrote:
A league to join World Leagues Forum

This is a FFA initiative?

Interesting times! 

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scribbler wrote:

Global Game wrote:
A league to join World Leagues Forum

This is a FFA initiative?

Interesting times! 

Last Line of press article "FFA has been contacted for comment"

It maybe. APFCA initiative

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How would that work if the A League is still under FFA control? Surely [under the current structure] the A League representative at any meeting would be the FFA nominee?

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How would that work if the A League is still under FFA control? Surely [under the current structure] the A League representative at any meeting would be the FFA nominee?

If they wait for the FFA/Special General Meeting they will not get included. So file the application now
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Congress Review Working Group

AFPCA:

Gregg Griffin

Simon Pearce

Federations:

Football New South Wales

Football Federation South Australia

Football Federation Victoria

Football West (Western Australia)

PFA:

Brendan Schwab (unconfirmed)

FFA:

Chris Nikou  (unconfirmed)

Chairman:

To be confirmed 

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At Guess: Who does what - Fun meeting ahead

APFCA:  A-League, W-League, Youth Leage 

Federations: Grassroots, Youth, Mens, Womens, Local league clubs and leagues, NPL (Tier 2 for a better name AAFC)

PFA: Players welfare, security, equality, conditions including wages etc

FFA: Control and Money (Football Legacy) National Teams.

Chairman: Medeator 

Both APFCA and Federations have Academy/Development to manage.

All have to have a say on the congress with balanced Voting rights. (No FFA Vito) 

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Blew.2 wrote:

At Guess: Who does what - Fun meeting ahead

APFCA:  A-League, W-League, Youth Leage 

Federations: Grassroots, Youth, Mens, Womens, Local league clubs and leagues, NPL (Tier 2 for a better name AAFC)

PFA: Players welfare, security, equality, conditions including wages etc

FFA: Control and Money (Football Legacy) National Teams.

Chairman: Medeator 

Both APFCA and Federations have Academy/Development to manage.

All have to have a say on the congress with balanced Voting rights. (No FFA Vito) 

I've probably missed it, but have you seen a reporting timeframe anywhere.

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Blew.2 wrote:

[quote=Blew.2]

Season is over this weekend. Will we see the other candidates names soon. Meetings to organise and coordinate so all can attend to meet the below deadlines!

The Working Group is required to submit its proposal to FIFA/AFC by the end of July with adoption at a Special General Meeting of FFA by no later than 7 September 2018.

Only seen these dates. But other forums are saying the Independent Chairperson that they all agree on is the problem
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FFA internal note: VAR controversy is dying down we need to deflect attention away from CRWG Just release some more Nix sold stories 

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Ozzy press still not covering CRWG or making any attempt to find information.

Being the biggest story in the Football World in Australia you would presume the would be digging deep

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FFA By Numbers

Best piece

as one source remarked: ‘When will the Australians realise we won’t take them seriously until they sort out their own mess?’

By that, they mean the FFA Congress.

Seventeen days after FIFA announced the terms of reference and membership of the Congress Review Working Group, nothing has been heard other than to confirm the individuals representing the A-League clubs (Greg Griffin and Simon Pearce) and the member federations (Kimon Taliadoros, Sam Ciccarello, Anter Isaac and Liam Twigger). This group’s first task, together with the FFA Board and PFA representatives is to “unanimously” agree on a chairperson for the working group. Time is ticking-by. There are 102 days remaining in which to report a majority view to FIFA and AFC on the composition of the FFA Congress.

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15 Member associations’ statutes

Member associations’ statutes must comply with the principles of good governance, and shall in particular contain,
at a minimum, provisions relating to the following matters
:a) to be neutral in matters of politics and religion;
b) to prohibit all forms of discrimination
;c) to be independent and avoid any form of political interference
;d) to ensure that judicial bodies are independent (separation of powers)
;e) all relevant stakeholders must agree to respect the Laws of the Game,the principles of loyalty, integrity, sportsmanship and fair play as well as the Statutes, regulations and decisions of FIFA and of the respective confederation
;f) all relevant stakeholders must agree to recognise the jurisdiction and authority of CAS and give priority to arbitration as a means of dispute resolution
;g) that the member association has the primary responsibility to regulate matters relating to refereeing, the fight against doping, the registrationI I. Membership 14 of players, club licensing, the imposition of disciplinary measures, including for ethical misconduct, and measures required to protect the integrity of competitions
;h) definition of the competences of the decision-making bodies
;i) to avoid conflicts of interests in decision-making
;j) legislative bodies must be constituted in accordance with the principles of representative democracy and taking into account the importance of gender equality in football and
;k) yearly independent audits of accounts. 

The Key to the CRWG outcome - J:

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CRWG todate 442au foroum

"Right now Lowy and his legal cohorts are trying to figure out how they can seem to comply with FIFAs requirements AND retain control. A seemingly impossible task but this is Australia and we are a corrupt nation!" 

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Blew.2 wrote:

CRWG todate 442au foroum

"Right now Lowy and his legal cohorts are trying to figure out how they can seem to comply with FIFAs requirements AND retain control. A seemingly impossible task but this is Australia and we are a corrupt nation!" 

Don’t you know it. Reckon they will do this by buying an ‘independent’ chairperson 

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Global Game wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

CRWG todate 442au foroum

"Right now Lowy and his legal cohorts are trying to figure out how they can seem to comply with FIFAs requirements AND retain control. A seemingly impossible task but this is Australia and we are a corrupt nation!" 

Don’t you know it. Reckon they will do this by buying an ‘independent’ chairperson 

Is there not another independent Lowy, Gallop son or daughter they can appoint?

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Gallop and O'Rourke are proving Article 15 of FIFA membership is alive and well in the R for trash draw of the FFA boardroom.

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FFA trying to get the PFA on their side

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Tegal wrote:

FFA trying to get the PFA on their side

Be a better idea to have loans to NPL sides for the PFA - Within HaL would stuuppid
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Lets hope she is clear of fox connections.SBS view

 

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Looks like a great choice to chair this panel. It would seem that in a couple of months we'll have a better idea of where the HAL is heading re governance.

"The newly formed panel must submit its proposal for the new makeup of Australian football's governance system by July 31." 

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Blew.2 wrote:

Congress Review Working Group

AFPCA:

Gregg Griffin

Simon Pearce

Federations:

Football New South Wales

Football Federation South Australia

Football Federation Victoria

Football West (Western Australia)

PFA:

Brendan Schwab (unconfirmed)

FFA:

Chris Nikou  (unconfirmed)

Chairman:

Judith Griggs (unconfirmed)

  

Next move 31 July. Lets hope the Ozzy media follow this a bit better.

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Blew.2 wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

Congress Review Working Group

AFPCA:

Gregg Griffin

Simon Pearce

Federations:

Football New South Wales

Football Federation South Australia

Football Federation Victoria

Football West (Western Australia)

PFA:

Brendan Schwab (unconfirmed)

FFA:

Chris Nikou  (unconfirmed)

Chairman:

Judith Griggs (unconfirmed)

  

Next move 31 July. Lets hope the Ozzy media follow this a bit better.

The proposal will be out before the FFA names the successful HAL expansion teams. I wonder how that will work? Especially if the proposal recommends an independent HAL in which case FFA shouldn't be the ones making any expansion decisions. 
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scribbler wrote:

Next move 31 July. Lets hope the Ozzy media follow this a bit better.

[/quote]The proposal will be out before the FFA names the successful HAL expansion teams. I wonder how that will work? Especially if the proposal recommends an independent HAL in which case FFA shouldn't be the ones making any expansion decisions. 

Exactly what the APFCA was saying "FFA do not have a mandate to expand the league while the governance is under review"
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Blew.2 wrote:

Blew.2 wrote:

Congress Review Working Group

AFPCA:

Gregg Griffin

Simon Pearce

Federations:

Football New South Wales

Football Federation South Australia

Football Federation Victoria

Football West (Western Australia)

PFA:

Brendan Schwab (unconfirmed)

FFA:

Chris Nikou  (unconfirmed)

Chairman:

Judith Griggs 

  

Next move 31 July. Lets hope the Ozzy media follow this a bit better.

APFCA confirm the Chairperson

On 28th May 2018, following conclusion of the FIFA eligibility check, the Chairman of the FIFA Review Committee declared Ms. Griggs eligible for the position of Chairperson of the CRWG. Furthermore, on 29th May 2018, Ms. Griggs met with representatives of the FIFA administration in Zurich and it was agreed that she would assume responsibilities as Chairperson of the CRWG as per its terms of reference with immediate effect.

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Terms of reference:

  • Alignment with art. 15 of the FIFA Statutes
  • “Full participation of women” at all levels of football governance
  • FFA Board composition and independence
  • Pathway for an alternative A-League model
  • Pathway for other stakeholders to become FFA members, including possible associate membership
  • Representation of NPL clubs in football governance structures.

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