College Football
College Football
What was the score in the Coll vs Stream game today?
rundown?
I went over to watch and got there when Coll were winning 2-1. Stream equalised then Coll went ahead again soon after. The most of the next 15 minutes was played in Streams half but they soaked up the pressure and then they managed to construct a few attacks of their own , some sloppy defending from Coll and it was 3-3. Stream then took the lead about 5-10 from time and held out until the end. It was fairly even throughout the game I thought but I saw Coll miss quite a few chances in the time I was there.
Stream managed to do the [away] double with their Rugby boys coming from 3-21 down to win it 24-21 with the last kick of the game being a penalty from 45 metres (that's assuming the field is full size, which it isn't) after some hand bags 55m out and the ref marching them ten. The Stream kicker took the penalty well under extreme pressure from the home supporters. He missed an easier conversion at 21-21 though.
Stream managed to do the [away] double with their Rugby boys coming from 3-21 down to win it 24-21 with the last kick of the game being a penalty from 45 metres (that's assuming the field is full size, which it isn't) after some hand bags 55m out and the ref marching them ten. The Stream kicker took the penalty well under extreme pressure from the home supporters. He missed an easier conversion at 21-21 though.
Saw the whole game.
Coll were definitely all over them in the front third with their big striker Hillbron a real handful. Coll seem to have a real weakness at the back when dealing with set pieces.If they can sort that out they will be a worry for most teams when the season proper starts. Their Number one goalie and best defender were both ill which wouldnt have helped.
The turning point was when their talented striker, Amir Mohamed, received a second yellow with twenty to go. He had also put the ball in the back of the net 5 mins prior only for Mr Cross to call it back for a push.
One of those games which Coll should have won but full credit to Stream for gutsing it out and securing bragging rights for another year !!
Coll were definitely all over them in the front third with their big striker Hillbron a real handful. Coll seem to have a real weakness at the back when dealing with set pieces.If they can sort that out they will be a worry for most teams when the season proper starts. Their Number one goalie and best defender were both ill which wouldnt have helped.
The turning point was when their talented striker, Amir Mohamed, received a second yellow with twenty to go. He had also put the ball in the back of the net 5 mins prior only for Mr Cross to call it back for a push.
One of those games which Coll should have won but full credit to Stream for gutsing it out and securing bragging rights for another year !!
Why is it that many College players are choosing to play for a club instead? They are only there for 5 years max - why not make the most of it? Are they in a hurry to get to men's football to progress their careers? But what are the odds of this actually coming to much? Bugger all. I hear that an issue is that the standard is crap - but isn't this just a self-fulfilling prophesy? Are many of them just going to be senior benchwarmers anyway?
I reckon they should play for for their College and the 'near leavers' can also play U21 on Sunday if they want. This will help create the standard and numbers in U21 for an A and B league.
I think you will find that the majority play for their First eleven's. I know for a fact that only ONE player at Wellington College chooses to play for his club to the exclusion of his school team and that is the goalkeeper, Clarke. All the others love the school team and it is definitely their priority team.
I totally agree with you that those school days are special and they will definitely look back with regret if they reject their school's team. Less than half of the Coll team choose to play for a club but those that do, only play AFTER the school game, and usually for Cap 1 or under 21 team on Sundays.
The standard is certainly not crap in the College grade but that is a favourite call from those with other agendas !
If youre playing in the top College grade, the standard is good and the teams are usually pretty well run. Where as if youre not, you'd be better off playing Mens football.
And back when i was finishing up at school (2002/03) all the Hutt schools (except Silverstream) played weekday football, so everyone out there was playing Cap Prem/Reserve/1 as well. Same with Kapiti and Pram colleges, i know a few of those guys who played for Wests on the weekends. Wellington Coll XI were playing as Mar Reserves...
And back when i was finishing up at school (2002/03) all the Hutt schools (except Silverstream) played weekday football, so everyone out there was playing Cap Prem/Reserve/1 as well. Same with Kapiti and Pram colleges, i know a few of those guys who played for Wests on the weekends. Wellington Coll XI were playing as Mar Reserves...
Yes, if you're playing in the top college grade then the standard is good - for a college grade. As a learning experience it's crap. You just have to look at the standard of the players that come from colleges. If you're not in the top grade, then the standard of everything is appalling in most cases.
The learning in club football is from the passing on of experience from older players to younger team-mates and learning that you're a little fish in a big pool so have to play as a team. Its not just from the coaching. At school, reasonable players stand out in the tiny pool and think they're world-beating stars and never learn to pass.
I think you will find that the majority play for their First eleven's.
The standard is certainly not crap in the College grade but that is a favourite call from those with other agendas !
Two massive yarns there.
Take a look at the First XIs of Tawa, Hutt Valley High School, Onslow, and St Pat's Town and you will see a considerable number of kids at the top end of the spectrum who are playing senior football ahead of junior football.
Or, to look at it another (better) way, have a look at the Federation squads for 1993-1995 and see how many of them ARE playing school football exclusively.
The standard of the College Premier Grade is reasonable. The top three or four school teams in Wellington would do okay in Cap 1. But Cap Premier and Central League are a different story altogether. The reality is that most school football is of a poor standard.
What is sad is when college coaches actively discourage kids from challenging themselves at a higher level.
Would be great to see Cap Football and College Sport get their heads together, scrap the U15 league, and put the College Premier comp on a Wednesday night so that kids who are genuinely good players and want to push themselves can play in both. That would lift the standard of the school league without compromising those players' opportunities.
I would have to agree that your last paragraph makes perfect sense which is the reason Capital Football will probably never do it !
Hear, hear Smithy but sadly, Spurs, I agree it's too sensible for Cap Fed.
Ummm, it has nothing to do with Capital Football. School sport is administered by College Sport Wellington. Capital Football have no authority over it.
Totally agree with Smithy, School football (Nationally) should be a mid week fixture. Then the more talented boys can test themselves at a potential higher level at club football in the weekends. The sooner it happens the better.
Nelson College 2 - Nayland College 1.
This result happened last week, meaning Nayland College will need a wildcard spot if they want to make the top eight at nationals, something they've reached for the past five years.
This result happened last week, meaning Nayland College will need a wildcard spot if they want to make the top eight at nationals, something they've reached for the past five years.
Totally agree with Smithy, School football (Nationally) should be a mid week fixture. Then the more talented boys can test themselves at a potential higher level at club football in the weekends. The sooner it happens the better.
Totally agree with Smithy, School football (Nationally) should be a mid week fixture. � Then the more talented boys can test themselves at a potential higher level at club football in the weekends. The sooner it happens the better.�
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Now that there are artifical pitches with lights there is even more opportunitity for them to play the college games during the week.
If you agree with me I change my mind.
Do you or anyone else know if College sport see any merit in what you are suggesting Smithy ? What is the likelihood of it actually happening next season in your opinion ?
Little to none. College sports have inflated views of their competition, ignoring the potential impacts.
In the view of my sources.
In the view of my sources.
Ummm, it has nothing to do with Capital Football. School sport is administered by College Sport Wellington. Capital Football have no authority over it.
Smithy, it was only a couple of years ago that Capital Football decided it could do even less work for the exhorbitant money we pay them if they abandoned college age football. I am waiting for the gradual disappearance of junior football then shrinkage and disappearance of football altogether which they seem to be working toward.
It is true that Cap Fed NOW has nothing to do with college football - except I would think that the FIFA link is through them and I suspect that they reach into our pockets for subsidies for all sorts of things. Many schools did not, and do not, take football seriously, some even outlawing "the pooftah's game" not that long ago, and the tension between colleges and associations has long been a feature of NZ football. Was it Jeff? Adams who took his school to court and won the right to play for his club rather than his Wellington college?
Ummm, it has nothing to do with Capital Football. School sport is administered by College Sport Wellington. Capital Football have no authority over it.
Smithy, it was only a couple of years ago that Capital Football decided it could do even less work for the exhorbitant money we pay them if they abandoned college age football.� I am waiting for the gradual disappearance of junior football then shrinkage and disappearance of football altogether which they seem to be working toward.
It is true that Cap Fed NOW has nothing to do with�college football - except I would think that the FIFA link is through them and I suspect that they reach into our pockets for subsidies for all sorts of things. Many schools did not, and do not, take football seriously, some even outlawing "the pooftah's game" not that long ago,�and the tension between colleges and associations has long been a feature of NZ football.�Was it Jeff? Adams who took his school to court and won the right to play for his club rather than his Wellington college?
You're confusing how it is with how it should be.
I agree it would be ideal for CF to take charge of football across the board, but it just isn't going to happen.
To be fair to them College Sport (Tracey) do a good job of running their comps though.
Do you or anyone else know if College sport see any merit in what you are suggesting Smithy ? What is the likelihood of it actually happening next season in your opinion ?
Zero chance. Was College Sport's idea to get rid of Wednesday comp originally and there's been no change in management or direction since then.
Totally agree with Smithy, School football (Nationally) should be a mid week fixture. Then the more talented boys can test themselves at a potential higher level at club football in the weekends. The sooner it happens the better.
Now that there are artifical pitches with lights there is even more opportunitity for them to play the college games during the week.
If you agree with me I change my mind.
Funny old world....
Rongotai beat Stream today
Rongotai beat Stream today
Ummm, it has nothing to do with Capital Football. School sport is administered by College Sport Wellington. Capital Football have no authority over it.
Smithy, it was only a couple of years ago that Capital Football decided it could do even less work for the exhorbitant money we pay them if they abandoned college age football. I am waiting for the gradual disappearance of junior football then shrinkage and disappearance of football altogether which they seem to be working toward.
It is true that Cap Fed NOW has nothing to do with college football - except I would think that the FIFA link is through them and I suspect that they reach into our pockets for subsidies for all sorts of things. Many schools did not, and do not, take football seriously, some even outlawing "the pooftah's game" not that long ago, and the tension between colleges and associations has long been a feature of NZ football. Was it Jeff? Adams who took his school to court and won the right to play for his club rather than his Wellington college?
You're confusing how it is with how it should be.
I agree it would be ideal for CF to take charge of football across the board, but it just isn't going to happen.
To be fair to them College Sport (Tracey) do a good job of running their comps though.
that doesnt happen often for rongotai!
Nelson College 2 - Marlborough Boys College 0.
Nelson qualify top from the top of the south. Nayland qualify second, but will apply for a wildcard in order to make reaching the top 8 a possibility.
Nelson qualify top from the top of the south. Nayland qualify second, but will apply for a wildcard in order to make reaching the top 8 a possibility.
From today's game
Pats SIX Stream 3
9 goals! jeepers
What has happened to wellington college? Losing to pats , are they even going to qualify for nationals
Stream, Coll and tawa to nationals
wild card entry
town i heard is band from nationals..
6-3 town beat stream... although one of streams players went off with a busted face and thats when the flood gates opened
Just talked to someone today about that, heard it was still 0-0 at that time, and even when he came back on. 1 goal led to the other after that.
What has happened to wellington college? Losing to pats , are they even going to qualify for nationals
Everyone qualifies for the nationals, there is more than 1 tournament.
What has happened to wellington college? Losing to pats , are they even going to qualify for nationals
Everyone qualifies for the nationals, there is more than 1 tournament.
There are several national tournaments, but the only one requiring qualification is the lotto premier ("the nationals")
MAGS suffered there first defeat of the season today to Ranigtoto 3-2...... Gutting. 1-0 up then 2-1 up but threw it away. Oh well not the end of the world and were still coming first !
HIBS have got a wildcard entry to nationals, or so Facebook tells me.
MAGS suffered there first defeat of the season today to Ranigtoto 3-2...... Gutting. 1-0 up then 2-1 up but threw it away. Oh well not the end of the world and were still coming first !
LOL
How could they loose to my old school
Probably cayse you are a monkey
They could "loose" cause you are a hack like your avatar
MAGS suffered there first defeat of the season today to Ranigtoto 3-2...... Gutting. 1-0 up then 2-1 up but threw it away. Oh well not the end of the world and were still coming first !
LOLHow could they loose to my old school
Ha no offence but the supporters were all muppets.. 1 was a 60 year old man 'yahooing', simply pathetic and embarrassing for you guys
And so MAGS should be coming first with their daily practices, recruitment of top players from round the country, your football academy etc.
Which makes the win by Rangitoto even more fantastic !!!