Things that piss you off...

bun1
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From stuff

New Zealand goalkeeper killed


Stuff has learned Atta Elayyan, 33, the goalkeeper for the national and Canterbury men’s futsal teams, was shot by the gunman as he prayed at a mosque in the city on Friday.


Elayyan, who was born in Kuwait, recently became a father and was a popular member of the Christchurch tech industry. He was a director and shareholder of a company called LWA Solutions.


NZ Football declined to comment on Saturday night as they had not had confirmation from police about Elayyan’s death

Leggy
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If ever there was a time to reintroduce the death penalty, it is for crimes like this.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

Lonegunmen
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Leggy, this is an act of terrorism. Isn't that cobweb covered law still in existance for Treason? And could this be seen as an act of treason against the people of New Zealand? Just asking.

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liberty_nz
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No and No

(to be slightly clear, 'no' to the death penalty and 'no' to this being treason)

AucklandPhoenix
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What pisses me off beyond belief is that on at least three occasions attempts have been made to toughen the gunlaws - the last two years ago.

After the mourning, the politicians whom prevented this should be named in the coming days.

This nutcase simply could not have killed the numbers he did if he had committed this act of terror in his home country as they have banned semi automatic weapons.

I have no doubt the gun laws here were a factor in his decision making in doing this here.

Auckland will rise once more

Leggy
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Lonegunmen wrote:

Leggy, this is an act of terrorism. Isn't that cobweb covered law still in existance for Treason? And could this be seen as an act of treason against the people of New Zealand? Just asking.

Treason is committing a crime against ones country. He is an Australian. 

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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What pisses me off beyond belief is that on at least three occasions attempts have been made to toughen the gunlaws - the last two years ago.

After the mourning, the politicians whom prevented this should be named in the coming days.

This nutcase simply could not have killed the numbers he did if he had committed this act of terror in his home country as they have banned semi automatic weapons.

I have no doubt the gun laws here were a factor in his decision making in doing this here.

The nats identified gun law as a way to mobilise their base. Chris Bishop of lower Hutt was at the forefront for stopping change last time around.

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It does not surprise me

googling him he appears to be in the headlines in the last day for telling that Australian senator off

If what you say is correct it sounds like he should be the last person in our country to preach to anyone and he should shut his own mouth or if he talks explain his actions

Now is not the time for naming but there will come a time 

when each and everyone of those politicians will be asked to explain their actions and agenda

 They did not keep our country safe

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newzealandpower
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I agree. Don't want to make this a political issue or use it to a party's advantage, but with 1.3M guns in a country of 4.5M people, tough gun regulations are needed. Luckily we don't need to deal with that second amendment crap and can change our laws if only the political goodwill is there.
Those who jeopardised this process in the pass should be held to account.

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Ryan
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What pisses me off is people sweeping this under the carpet and saying "this isn't us." particularly the Australian media as this is contradicted by a number of Australian senators who were elected. You don't solve problems without confronting them.

It is us and it is Australians. Anytime we do anything to dehumanise others, even if it's a joke or talking about stereotypes, we're complicit in the thinking which made this terrorist.

We're herding animals, we stick to our herd and we talk think less of others. Our herds have grown from families, to villages, to towns, to cities, to religions. The challenge for us is to utilise the technology that we have to grow our tribe to the world.

We stop this by stopping stereotypes. By stopping casual racism. By thinking of others as humans, not by looking down on others.

I heard on the radio that the debate about video games has restarted - that they are the cause, to me video games are the easy targets but they don't stop the fundamental issues in society. They are the symptom not the cause. 

We don't stop this by ignoring it, calling it a one off, and not using the opportunity to fix our society. Because terrorism comes from disillusionment and alienation as much as by stereotyping and dehumanising. The only way to fix this is simply to treat each other with respect and be nice to each other. That's it. As easy as that. The way not to fix this is to say "this isn't us." and move on.

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Kotahitanga. We are one.

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They should have been safe. Should have been protected. I am so ashamed as an Australian of the carnage this nutter has created across the Muslim community, the Christchurch community and the nation of New Zealand. I'm equally angered by the response of our gutless and racist Australian politicians. I can't say enough good things about how Jacinda has responded and provided real leadership at this time. The comparison is a stark.

Changing tack, and not wanting to demean any of the above comments, I left the game last night frustrated. A beautiful evening, a fantastic game of football, a winning side who are making serious headway towards a home final and yet only 7000+ odd turned up. I know there was the vigil at the Basin and I'm glad that people took the opportunity to go to that.

I also accept that 7pm on a Sunday night is a very family unfriendly time (I left my wife at home with our two babies).

What do we have to do to get decent crowds at the Ring of Fire? I really think the club has tried everything. Surely it's time for us fans to do our bit...? 

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I think there would have been more at the stadium last night had the events of Friday not taken place, like you I thought 7500 was light given we were sitting 4th and had just smashed CCM 8-2.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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Yesterday is not the game to be judging crowd figures on. Anything that you try to read into yesterday's attendance is immediately invalidated by the events of the two days proceeding the game. 

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

Oi Oi Edgecumbe
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theprof wrote:

I think there would have been more at the stadium last night had the events of Friday not taken place, like you I thought 7500 was light given we were sitting 4th and had just smashed CCM 8-2.

Yes a shame for the club and the players, but for once I think it was understandable.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

newzealandpower
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Central library now closing due to earthquake concerns. I love books and read a lot...this really sucks!

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Lonegunmen
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Upper Hutt Library has been closed for a couple of years, although I believe there is a temp facility in Astral Towers somewhere. 

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Lonegunmen wrote:

Upper Hutt Library has been closed for a couple of years, although I believe there is a temp facility in Astral Towers somewhere. 

It re-opened earlier this month.
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The 👌 "ok" symbol being associated with white power. Extremely idiotic

                                                                     

newzealandpower
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I must I have notice that one and it's being grinding my gears!

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