The New Zealand Herald

everyone calls rugby rugby, everyone calls league league. there is no risk of confusion by calling football football. and if there was im sure it would become pretty clear once somebody starts reading.

A pedant writes: pure? Rugby's rules had solidified before the FA drew up their rules - come to think of it, so had Victorian/Australian Rules. And some hard-core Irish would say that Gaelic is the pure form of football.

But it's called football in every civilised country in the world except Italy. Doloras2010-06-02 13:14:02

Oh, new nominee for stupidest writer at the Herald.

Nah, he's right.  Everyone puts adidas products in the fridge.

* Controversy rages. A constant email stream arrives at the Herald, expressing everything from frustration to outrage that this newspaper refers to the beautiful game as soccer rather than football.

This is not a matter up to writers and reporters.

The word soccer has been set as the Herald's style, to distinguish the game from other football codes.

People in high Herald places say the newspaper will not buckle.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10649020&pnum=0

yep, it's not rocket science, even Aucklanders should be able to follow ML's logic

Never mind, at least Wellington is wonderful (and the Dom   is aware what century New Zealand has entered).

I assume the "buckle" pun is unintended, or is their an ounce of wit somewhere in their building?

Interesting though - I had this crazy idea that successful businesses were responsive to their customers.

tigers2010-06-02 20:48:33

I was listening to Brendan Telfers rant re the Herald. He said they should call it Football. He spoke to Miles about it and Miles said it doesn't bother him as long as they are talking about it.

It's dumb for them to keep calling it the S word when NZ Football changed it's name from the S word.

Good articles linked on the YF home page ... from the Herald (and note Caro Meng-Yee calls it FOOTBALL)

My god, new prize for weirdest nonsense to come out of the Herald. Step forward sports editor Paul Lewis, who in the midst of an otherwise unexceptional rant about the glory of video refs, had this to say:



... okay, Platini is a transvestite who gets whipped and humiliated by an even bigger transvestite and later shoots him with a pitchfork capable of emitting a beam of pure antimatter?!?

yeh, i noticed someone reading a herald on friday which had the word "football" in a teaser for a weekend article

perhaps they have now joined the rest of NZ in this century

Yes, much of the copy refers to 'football'  ... eg this from michael brown ..

sounds like they are getting their journalistic act together

and fair play to them - moving with the times .. they do say it's good for business

edit - changed the message icon from 'thumbs down' = temporarily giving them the benefit of the doubttigers2010-06-13 20:24:13

A quick question. I noticed that back in the 80's New Zealand Football was the New Zealand Football Association, so when and why did it change to New Zealand Soccer?

Although i was reading it yesterday and in the midst of a lengthy piece about the final, the writer was talking about Holland's thuggish tactics and that they played 'anti-soccer'...

That is just so wrong...

I'm quite keen on the "Herald On Sunday" for its football coverage- and, yes, this edition of the Herald does use"Football" as the heading for its round ball coverage. Its results section also uses "Football."

I think they should use the correct Gaelic spelling with an 'H' in it. It is clear racism and anti-papism.

michael brown is good and Herald on Sunday is better than sunday star times for football.

Do they call it Diving?

damn, might have to further revise my anti-auckland bias

anywhere in kilbirnie/newtown that sells this Herald on Sunday??

Hello, I love your, "It's a bit like Pantene......happen". It took me sometime to adjust to calling soccer-football when I began posting in a forum in the UK.
Now, its like water off a duck's back.

European posters were never rude when I would type soccer, probably because I am a female-there were only 2 of us one from Italy and myself from New Zealand..Great guys, but of course they are now very happy that I have dispensed with the word soccer and just say 'football' now.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10673209

Preview of the victory game and they have picture of kosta wearing the old home shirt

So with the latest round of "Let's sling some filth at the guy who has p!ssed off the editor and sell some more copy" @ Doom Post and the inconvenient truth that Stuff is Fairfax, I have been looking at the Herald website more today/last night.

Just went to the link on the homepage to find out the Fred is penning for the Herald now (or maybe just this story).

"See how the story has developed" 

We perfectly understand that - our coverage definitely reflects that truth. I don't see how that line can be seen as insensitive.

The timeline is simply another way of showing our readers how the tragedy has unfolded. What's wrong with that?

Fair enough, it is all about perception. Story is the term we use, but I agree it might not be seen as the appropriate term for the public. You'll often here the term "developing story"  used for everything from a political scandal to a tragedy like this. I can assure you the Herald's online newsroom, and other newsrooms around the country, have nothing but the utmost sympathy for all the families and friends of those involved. I know it is looking bleak but I still hold out hope we will have these 29 men back with their loved ones soon.

Fair point. As I said, it's just something that irritates me. I wasn't suggesting any insensitivity.

I don't really know what you want them to call it?

Genuine question. I can't think of anything else. They're reporting on it,not talking to friends about it,the contexts are different.

Well done Herald - three post-match stories.

Of course I'm pleased to see the Herald pick up its game with regard to football. I know there are a fair few football fans in my newsroom and also in the print section, so hopefully the sports guys will keeping producing good football stories.

It all comes down to readers though. If we write good copy and get good feedback, it will encourage more coverage. I think the All Whites' great year has helped give football more exposure and show editors there is a hunger out there for good coverage. Long may it continue!

try telling that to the doom post - they know we'd love them if they'd report on the football and not the crap going on behind the scenes.

And another good read with Terry interviewing Ritchie after he had a nice sleep- in!

Soccer: Young star taking on the world
Soccer is giving Luke Adams the chance to see the world. Australian-born of English parents and one of the youngest players� More etc by Madderford in todays Herald.

Well DC this is definitily the most purile inane article I've had the misfortune to read on the Phoenix Home Page this year. If it were printed matter toilet paper at best.
Soccer is giving Luke Adams etc. FFS use the right code for a start...football.
Terry M Rex's Waitakere muppet.
In future please DONT use such articles in latest news from Maddaford/Waitakere as it's really a blog and zero relevance as with most of Maddaford's articles.
He who pays the piper eh Terry.