Legend
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Yes I see how you're trying to angle this very cleverly and paint anti-Sky people as anti-Nix. 

For the record I do have Sky and will be watching games I'm not at.

Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to be pissed off at their snail-paced efforts to move with the times whilst being in direct control of some content I want/need.

The most basic way of explaining it is that in the modern online world, we get what we want, when we want, without paying for what we don't want. Sky unfortunately is not yet offering this. 

Legend
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And change is not always good mate.

And I did not say it was, just to clear that up! Just said it's inevitable in this instance, because it is. 

Lawyerish
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As does Gallop no doubt

As I said if something better comes along and they are prepared to put the Bucks in then great, but this is what we have to work with at the moment so getting rid of it, watching it at the pub when you don't have an alternative is not helping keep this team here. 

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I refuse to support sky's odious bundled business model, but am willing to pay for live sport, preferably when on-demand, and HD.

I don't use stolen streams as a matter of choice, but the concept of territorial rights is an outdated artificial model based on Satlittle footprint or other small area distribution models. It's no longer relevant.

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The problem with SKY it is a bad deal, you pay to much for just watching the A-League. SKY have to step up and make I proper product. I'm willing to eg $29.99/month to watch the a-league and ASB football but not $79 (or what ever price you get) to have ALL the other stuff I don't like to see. I want to see it online live streaming and replay on-demand, I want a weekly 1/2h  football show with highlights, news, interviews and pre and after game show with some experts like Ifill, ex-all whites. Nothing crazy, just basic TV.

Appiah without the pace
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over 16 years

Sky are doing a weekly football magazine show starting 9 November. Assume it's ASBP related.

Listen here Fudgeface
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2ndBest wrote:

Sky are doing a weekly football magazine show starting 9 November. Assume it's ASBP related.

I'm hoping it'll be 10 mins Nix and 20 mins ASBP, which would be awesome. But it's definitely come about because of the ASBP.
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2ndBest wrote:

Sky are doing a weekly football magazine show starting 9 November. Assume it's ASBP related.

If it's as well made as the teaser, there is hope.

https://www.facebook.com/ASBPremiership/videos/1045776318800827/

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A-League streaming is $54 USD for entire season via this link: (25% off).

https://secure.soccer.livesport.tv/buy/key/CC10

You'll need a US-based VPN.

Includes all this content:

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Can I have some lungs please miss
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over 16 years

Before you go to 4K, Foxes, or wherever to watch the game tonight, or to bed if you're not a true fan (lol), make sure your decoder (if you have one) is on and set to SS2!

Every bit helps!

#SaveTheNix

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2ndBest wrote:

Sky are doing a weekly football magazine show starting 9 November. Assume it's ASBP related.

Dennis Katsanos to host?

LG
Legend
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Just think, if Sky got the EPL back and then put in a bid for the A League, the boot might be on the other foot so to speak. Now that would be funny. But then Sky are too far up Rugbys arse to even  consider it. I have long said Sky should have a dedicated football channel offering the main countries, Scotland, England, Germany, Nederlands, Spain, Italy, USA, any of the South American games, even the J and K Leagues.

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over 16 years

zonknz wrote:

A-League streaming is $54 USD for entire season via this link: (25% off).

https://secure.soccer.livesport.tv/buy/key/CC10

You'll need a US-based VPN.

Includes all this content:

No On-demand unfortunately though.

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Lonegunmen wrote:

Just think, if Sky got the EPL back and then put in a bid for the A League, the boot might be on the other foot so to speak. Now that would be funny. But then Sky are too far up Rugbys arse to even  consider it. I have long said Sky should have a dedicated football channel offering the main countries, Scotland, England, Germany, Nederlands, Spain, Italy, USA, any of the South American games, even the J and K Leagues.

Funnily enough I think that would be a huge step backwards. The idea of channels and "scheduled programming" is the enemy. EPL has up to 10 games live simultaneously some rounds, I know what I want to watch, sky has to guess.

Light box, please pickup la liga, uefa champions league and a- league, all on demand. That would be awesome.

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axxaa wrote:
zonknz wrote:

A-League streaming is $54 USD for entire season via this link: (25% off).

https://secure.soccer.livesport.tv/buy/key/CC10

You'll need a US-based VPN.

Includes all this content:

No On-demand unfortunately though.

Sadly not.

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Tegal wrote:

I'm appalled (but not surprised) that sky sport haven't tweeted a thing in support of (or even about) the nix since the licence news broke. Says a lot really. 

Can't figure out how to post links or screenshots on the app, but I think you will find SKY Sport have tweeted in support today.

Marquee
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zonknz wrote:

Lonegunmen wrote:

Just think, if Sky got the EPL back and then put in a bid for the A League, the boot might be on the other foot so to speak. Now that would be funny. But then Sky are too far up Rugbys arse to even  consider it. I have long said Sky should have a dedicated football channel offering the main countries, Scotland, England, Germany, Nederlands, Spain, Italy, USA, any of the South American games, even the J and K Leagues.

Funnily enough I think that would be a huge step backwards. The idea of channels and "scheduled programming" is the enemy. EPL has up to 10 games live simultaneously some rounds, I know what I want to watch, sky has to guess.

Light box, please pickup la liga, uefa champions league and a- league, all on demand. That would be awesome.

It is only on the last day of the season that they do that. There is no other time that all fixtures are played at the same time.

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Big lol as far as support. Only posting it on game day.

SKY Sport NZ ‏@skysportnz

6h6 hours ago

#SAVETHENIX Show your support for the @WgtnPhoenixFC by following them into battle tonight! #MVCvWEL 9.30pm LIVE SS2

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Frankie Mac wrote:

It is only on the last day of the season that they do that. There is no other time that all fixtures are played at the same time.

Er.. most rounds see at least 4, games played simultaneously, with a further 2 games back to back, prior/after those games - Broadcasting that in a single 'channel' via tape delay is a nonsense model. It's even worse during midweek rounds, where there are 5 games simultaneously.

Marquee
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zonknz wrote:

Frankie Mac wrote:

It is only on the last day of the season that they do that. There is no other time that all fixtures are played at the same time.

Er.. most rounds see at least 4, games played simultaneously, with a further 2 games back to back, prior/after those games - Broadcasting that in a single 'channel' via tape delay is a nonsense model. It's even worse during midweek rounds, where there are 5 games simultaneously.

Er....that is very much the case, but the only time that they play 10 games simultaneously is the last day of the season.

edit - just seen the original comment said "up to 10 games simultaneously". Meh, my point still stands that the only time all 10 fixtures are at the same time is the last day.

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Royz wrote:

Big lol as far as support. Only posting it on game day.

SKY Sport NZ ‏@skysportnz

6h6 hours ago

#SAVETHENIX Show your support for the @WgtnPhoenixFC by following them into battle tonight! #MVCvWEL 9.30pm LIVE SS2

Thats seriously shark, but hey, Sky is a company out to make money like any other.  Clearly their support for the nix only goes as far as getting more people watching them on Sky so they can make more money from ads.

Maybe if the Nix played rugby it wouldnt be an issue.

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The SKYPhoenc Fan Pass is $19.99 / week that would be $560 for a 7 month A-League season.

Watching the Phoenix only you could buy a $14.99 / 24h pass that would be $195 for 13 away games plus the games the don't play in Wellington.

It's pricey, but still cheaper than having a SKY Box with all the other channels for 12 month.

If SKY is really interested in football, they should offer a deal for streaming ASB and A-League for a reasonable price. In the current deal you subsidize the millions they spent on rugby rights.

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SKY lose there broadcast contract after 2016/17 A-League season. What they do between now and then would more likely rely on if the Nix's are still around for the next four years. So I doubt they would do streaming packages until they know they have a product to use.

So maybe more of the same from SKY until then.

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Lonegunmen wrote:

Just think, if Sky got the EPL back and then put in a bid for the A League, the boot might be on the other foot so to speak. Now that would be funny. But then Sky are too far up Rugbys arse to even  consider it. I have long said Sky should have a dedicated football channel offering the main countries, Scotland, England, Germany, Nederlands, Spain, Italy, USA, any of the South American games, even the J and K Leagues.

Sky says that losing the EPL cost them hardly any viewers. As for the A-league, the playoff game against City only got a viewership of 22,000 and that was our biggest game of the season. That's lower than just about every ITM Cup game. Sky shouldn't be expected to do anything. If Sky didn't exist some other company wouldn't come along and provide all of that content because it probably isn't economic for them to do so.

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Ryan54 wrote:
Sky says that losing the EPL cost them hardly any viewers.

And when they lost it they kept pushing the line that "A league games get more viewers." Which of course failed to take into account that EPL games are in the middle of the night here so a large number of people would record them whereas A League games would mostly be watched live because of the time they play. Since they have stated publicly how popular A League is compared to EPL it will be interesting to hear what they come out with when the rights come up for renewal.

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ajc28 wrote:

Ryan54 wrote:
Sky says that losing the EPL cost them hardly any viewers.

And when they lost it they kept pushing the line that "A league games get more viewers." Which of course failed to take into account that EPL games are in the middle of the night here so a large number of people would record them whereas A League games would mostly be watched live because of the time they play. Since they have stated publicly how popular A League is compared to EPL it will be interesting to hear what they come out with when the rights come up for renewal.

It probably means next to no football going forward.

EPL games that are recorded and viewed within a week I'm pretty sure counts as views.

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number8 wrote:

The problem with SKY it is a bad deal, you pay to much for just watching the A-League. SKY have to step up and make I proper product. I'm willing to eg $29.99/month to watch the a-league and ASB football but not $79 (or what ever price you get) to have ALL the other stuff I don't like to see. I want to see it online live streaming and replay on-demand, I want a weekly 1/2h  football show with highlights, news, interviews and pre and after game show with some experts like Ifill, ex-all whites. Nothing crazy, just basic TV.

Sky though do have some pretty generous special offers these days.

With the deal I'm on I pay only $39 / month including Sky Sport.

Sky Basic = $29 / month

Sky Basic + one premium channel package (e.g. Sport or Movies) = $39 / month

Sky Basic + two premium channels = $49 / month

Plus free My Sky + for a year.

You can get Sky Basic plus Sport for only $39 / month by phoning this marketing company who work for Sky:

Phone 0800 475 988

You might have to keep phoning back until someone answers (what I did) and can also leave a message for them.

Probably better to phone on a week day too.

Note that you can't get this offer by phoning the standard Sky TV numbers, only the number above.

Only a six month contract but you get the reduced price for one year.

In other words you can terminate it after six months or if you want, carry on getting the reduced price and free My Sky + for one year.

(You probably will have to give Sky TV some notice before they will disconnect you)

Offer open to anyone who has never had Sky or (like me) has not had Sky TV in the last 60 days (minimum period of 30 days notice plus 60 days with Sky disconnected)

STREAMING:

Sky these days live stream all their sports channels 24 hours on Sky Go, including live A-League.

Sky Sports 1-4. all three Sport pop-up channels and ESPN 1 and ESPN 2 all live stream here:

http://www.skygo.co.nz/livetv/

Half hour highlights packages of all Phoenix matches are also available On Demand on Sky Go:

http://www.skygo.co.nz/catchup/sport/

SKY ON DEMAND:

They are rolling out a new on demand service for all subscribers over the summer so you can watch content on demand through the planner on your set top box. (no extra charge):  

http://skyondemand.co.nz/whatsnew.php

Sky do now have a half hour NZ football show on Monday nights at 7.30 pm "NZ football Weekly" with ASB Premiership highlights and highlights of the most recent Phoenix match.

Some of the filler between highlights like players goofing around is unnecessary, but they have had some good interviews such as with Liverpool legend David Fairclough who was visiting NZ recently. 

It would be good to have serious interviews with NZ players and football personalities on this show and more content surrounding Phoenix matches such as pre and post match shows.

Marquee
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over 12 years

I just upgraded my internet to unlimited data, signed up to Netflix and cancelled Sky.

I feel like I've just emerged from my nuclear bunker and found out that the Cold War is over.

Lawyerish
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over 13 years

Thats what happens when you get rid of sport, you have to get out of your house to find things to do

Marquee
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over 12 years

Chromecast + stream for sports now ;)

WeeNix
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570
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over 10 years

Streaming is the way forward. I find fanpass has awesome quality. Best part is that its not using Sky's sharkty Go service. If I need to watch any other streams like champions league, EPL etc I use Kodi app and with other sports add-ons to stream from and its free though some streams can be low quality and you have to click through to find the good ones.

axxaa
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Trialist
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130
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over 16 years

Fanpass + chromecast is great. Just wish Sky dropped the price

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I don't know how this may affect the NZ SKY/TV market, It seems FOXTEL is on struggle street and Telstra will off load its %50 stake in the company.

Does a struggling company pay top dollar for A-League??

Read it here

Legend
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almost 17 years

Sky copping some flak for their outdated model in the mainstream media now

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/7845501...

Bout time.

Although I'm puzzled as to why they are saying Sky are "last" in the list of reputable companies. Aren't they actually 25th? Or do they only survey on these 25 companies alone?

Marquee
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It's interesting to see these outdated companies clinging desperately to what is clearly a doomed business model. I used to work in a CD store and it was blatantly obvious that the model of people buying albums and singles in physical disc form was collapsing but both the company I worked for and the record labels themselves stemmed to suffer some sort of paralysis in responding to it. I think Sky are in the same boat - they're too committed to the bundled pay tv model Ann's even when it's clearly doomed they just keep trying to squeeze every last cent out of it. Sure, they have started to take some steps towards a new model but reluctantly and only after constantly jacking up prices while losing content and viewers.

Sports are the last thing holding the pay tv model together. Netflix etc have destroyed it for tv shows and movies. If someone came in and outbid Sky for rugby rights they would be royally fudged. Check out how many people commenting on that article are rugbyheads saying they only have Sky for rugby...

Starting XI
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They have Rugby til 2021 & Cricket til 2020, am interested to see what develops for other sports during this time.

THe weird one for me is their token attempts to compete in the new areas, Neon & FanPass seem both halfassed, and overpriced.

Neon crashes for my wife at least once a night (We have a 2 month trial)

And Fan Pass seems to be priced as more expensive than paying for Sky Basic + Sky Sport (Which is nuts given you only get Sport)

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It's interesting to see these outdated companies clinging desperately to what is clearly a doomed business model. I used to work in a CD store and it was blatantly obvious that the model of people buying albums and singles in physical disc form was collapsing but both the company I worked for and the record labels themselves stemmed to suffer some sort of paralysis in responding to it. I think Sky are in the same boat - they're too committed to the bundled pay tv model Ann's even when it's clearly doomed they just keep trying to squeeze every last cent out of it. Sure, they have started to take some steps towards a new model but reluctantly and only after constantly jacking up prices while losing content and viewers.

Sports are the last thing holding the pay tv model together. Netflix etc have destroyed it for tv shows and movies. If someone came in and outbid Sky for rugby rights they would be royally fudged. Check out how many people commenting on that article are rugbyheads saying they only have Sky for rugby...

that's a massive if

Marquee
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chopah wrote:

It's interesting to see these outdated companies clinging desperately to what is clearly a doomed business model. I used to work in a CD store and it was blatantly obvious that the model of people buying albums and singles in physical disc form was collapsing but both the company I worked for and the record labels themselves stemmed to suffer some sort of paralysis in responding to it. I think Sky are in the same boat - they're too committed to the bundled pay tv model Ann's even when it's clearly doomed they just keep trying to squeeze every last cent out of it. Sure, they have started to take some steps towards a new model but reluctantly and only after constantly jacking up prices while losing content and viewers.

Sports are the last thing holding the pay tv model together. Netflix etc have destroyed it for tv shows and movies. If someone came in and outbid Sky for rugby rights they would be royally fudged. Check out how many people commenting on that article are rugbyheads saying they only have Sky for rugby...

that's a massive if

Yeah, true. But it seems risky for Sky to base their entire business model on that. They probably didn't think they'd get outbid for EPL rights either, but that happened. Rugby would be a much bigger scale of course, but you never know who might sweep in...
Marquee
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almost 17 years

chopah wrote:

It's interesting to see these outdated companies clinging desperately to what is clearly a doomed business model. I used to work in a CD store and it was blatantly obvious that the model of people buying albums and singles in physical disc form was collapsing but both the company I worked for and the record labels themselves stemmed to suffer some sort of paralysis in responding to it. I think Sky are in the same boat - they're too committed to the bundled pay tv model Ann's even when it's clearly doomed they just keep trying to squeeze every last cent out of it. Sure, they have started to take some steps towards a new model but reluctantly and only after constantly jacking up prices while losing content and viewers.

Sports are the last thing holding the pay tv model together. Netflix etc have destroyed it for tv shows and movies. If someone came in and outbid Sky for rugby rights they would be royally fudged. Check out how many people commenting on that article are rugbyheads saying they only have Sky for rugby...

that's a massive if

Yeah, true. But it seems risky for Sky to base their entire business model on that. They probably didn't think they'd get outbid for EPL rights either, but that happened. Rugby would be a much bigger scale of course, but you never know who might sweep in...

The difference is it would take a LOT of capital to take on the host broadcasting responsibilities from sky.

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