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I agree, and I'd wish that the Phoenix wouldn't give him any interviews but unfortunately they do. The former national team coach pretty much exclusively talked to him.

When he's mentioned on here it's almost always qualified with a statement about his past and the way he has conducted himself since and IMO that's probably all we can do without ignoring any football news that comes through him.

An option would be to update the swear filter to rename Veitch to something else?

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Unfortunately he hosts the most popular sports show on the wireless.

He is a cock, but  he is a cock with an audience

Listen here Fudgeface
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I'm still in favour of an autocorrect like the swear filter. "Veitch" can become "unrepentant, cowardly, woman-bashing scumbag"

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So "Veitch" should auto correct to "BlockHead" or .... 

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Veitch should auto correct to Grub

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Putting aside his breaking of a back competely, it is his attempts to be a right wing Larry Williams politicial commentator that infuriates me

Listen here Fudgeface
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I do enjoy that a thread asking for all Tony Veitch chat to be removed has turned into a home for Tony Veitch chat.

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patrick478 wrote:

I do enjoy that a thread asking for all Tony Veitch chat to be removed has turned into a home for Tony Veitch chat.

It is a discussion of an issue. It didn't need to be moved here either.

Be good to hear why so many people feel the need to back Veitch. Very much the 'sportshead' stereotype. Overlooking the ethical and moral as long as they get their sports fix. Be great to have an unequivocal repudiation of support for Veitch from both the club and the supporters group.

Back Veitch? Support? Things like liking and following his social media space. Things like listening to his show. Doing interviews with him.

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I don't support anything he has done but I do enjoy listening to his show.

Jordan Belfort was a creep and a low life but he knew how to sell things.

If Veitch does not tell me how to treat other humans or moralise on how to look after my wife, I really don't care what he does. I have no idea of the details of his punishment or what he has said or done in relation to his ex wife and its also none of my business. I don't listen to the radio to here him regale about what a great human he is or to others.

He talks about sport, I want to listen to sport. Listening to him talk about sport does not forgive him or absolve him of his sins. Thats about as far as it goes....

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I just hope all those supporters of Anfony Hudson, understand that Veitch is his wing man in ponsonby bars

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I listen to his show.

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What happened was indefensible and repulsive.

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Why I choose to listen to him in the weekend is he was dealt with by the courts and I believe in second chances, which I think life is about.

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I'm a passionate fan, like many here. Tony is an accomplished radio host and his shows are lively and fun.

It is cause for self reflection, that sharing this enthusiasm it can be a possible negative if not channeled right.

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There are two factors here. The first is he submitted falsified documents and lied and used his clout to get a more lenient sentence.

He has never appeared repentant, every statement he's ever made about it painted him as the victim.

Of course there are second chances, and there are plenty of jobs in sports journalism where he wouldn't be front and center. Seeing as he's chosen to continue his career in the public eye then he has additional responsibilities which wouldn't fall on him if he continued his career in private

Even the most stringent opponent of his has said that if he spent some of his profile fighting against domestic violence they would remove all objections.

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Yeah I think second chances need to be earned. Given the factors Ryan mentions, I’m not sure he has earned his. 

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I listen to his show as well as I like sport and there are no other options

As I listen to all other radio sport hosts

Veitch I find the worst by far. He just sucks up to sports players and coaches with no objective comment at all, unless he dabbles in politics which by Christ I don't want to hear from him.

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I manage to enjoy sport while not giving him any attention, it's not hard.

and 1 other
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I listen to his show as well as I like sport and there are no other options

As I listen to all other radio sport hosts

Veitch I find the worst by far. He just sucks up to sports players and coaches with no objective comment at all, unless he dabbles in politics which by Christ I don't want to hear from him.

Oh hell yeah. I try not to listen to him as much as I can, but I have occasionally when big stories occur, and the guy is so far up Steve Tew and Grant Fox's ass it's absurd.

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As much as I'm glad he has been removed from the show I understood White Ribbon was about rehabilitating people and helping them turn their lives around. I wonder how much this says to people "don't bother, there's no chance you will ever be accepted by anyone again."

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ajc28 wrote:

As much as I'm glad he has been removed from the show I understood White Ribbon was about rehabilitating people and helping them turn their lives around. I wonder how much this says to people "don't bother, there's no chance you will ever be accepted by anyone again."

The entire argument is that Veitch isn't rehabilitated, and that if he had shown any sign of taking responsibility for his actions and doing his bit to communicate that domestic violence is not ok, then he'd be readily accepted back into a broadcasting role. 

If anyone is taking that view then they're being deliberately disingenuous because I'm not sure I've seen even the most vocal Veitch detractors display that sentiment.

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Nelfoos wrote:

ajc28 wrote:

As much as I'm glad he has been removed from the show I understood White Ribbon was about rehabilitating people and helping them turn their lives around. I wonder how much this says to people "don't bother, there's no chance you will ever be accepted by anyone again."

The entire argument is that Veitch isn't rehabilitated, and that if he had shown any sign of taking responsibility for his actions and doing his bit to communicate that domestic violence is not ok, then he'd be readily accepted back into a broadcasting role. 

If anyone is taking that view then they're being deliberately disingenuous because I'm not sure I've seen even the most vocal Veitch detractors display that sentiment.

I've seen those organisations reach out to him to use his pedestal to address the issue. Apparently a lot of those organisations have reformed abusers involved.

Listen here Fudgeface
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ajc28 wrote:

As much as I'm glad he has been removed from the show I understood White Ribbon was about rehabilitating people and helping them turn their lives around. I wonder how much this says to people "don't bother, there's no chance you will ever be accepted by anyone again."

Veitch hasn't turned his life around at all though. He's victim-blamed and refused to accept any responsibility for what he did.

If anything, this is an example to say to people  " look what happens if you aren't going to put in effort to change your ways and accept responsibility for what you have done".

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Fair enough. Haven't really looked into the full story.

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Pulling the pin on ZB, unfortunately he wasn't pushed.

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Surge wrote:

Pulling the pin on ZB, unfortunately he wasn't pushed.

just got a message from a mate who has a mate who works at Radio Sport and said they canned him.

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Ding Dong the witch is dead...

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Ryan wrote:

There are two factors here. The first is he submitted falsified documents and lied and used his clout to get a more lenient sentence.

He has never appeared repentant, every statement he's ever made about it painted him as the victim.

Of course there are second chances, and there are plenty of jobs in sports journalism where he wouldn't be front and center. Seeing as he's chosen to continue his career in the public eye then he has additional responsibilities which wouldn't fall on him if he continued his career in private

Even the most stringent opponent of his has said that if he spent some of his profile fighting against domestic violence they would remove all objections.

He almost paid the ultimate price for what he did - death by suicide. While he was the author of his own misfortune, he doesn't deserve to be vilified in such a savage way by many on here. In fact, early on in his return to the airwaves I've heard him talk about what he went through - not in any great detail but he didn't hide from the fact. I've also heard someone have a crack at him on air and he cut them off with a resigned sigh. I actually used to enjoy his show but in recent times have gone right off his over the top, gushy, self important manner. He did a cod of a thing for sure but everyone should move on.
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He's not moved on himself until he's taken responsibility.

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Never apologised, never seen any remorse, he should count himself lucky he didn't end up in jail

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chopah wrote:

Surge wrote:

Pulling the pin on ZB, unfortunately he wasn't pushed.

just got a message from a mate who has a mate who works at Radio Sport and said they canned him.

Yes I was very sceptical of his claim that he was leaving of his own accord. The current climate was probably a factor. Should never have been allowed back on the radio so soon, especially without a proper apology.

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I don't believe that, they brought him back and made him  their main broadcaster and one of the highest paid. Maybe there was a change at the top and one of his mates left or something.

WeeNix
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People get canned in radio all the time. I can certainly believe that they wanted to avoid having someone like Veitch around in the current climate and perhaps they felt a new direction for Saturday and Sunday afternoon shows would improve their ratings (though I don't believe the new show has started yet, it's just Watson hosting sport ATM).

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Ryan wrote:

There are two factors here. The first is he submitted falsified documents and lied and used his clout to get a more lenient sentence.

He has never appeared repentant, every statement he's ever made about it painted him as the victim.

Of course there are second chances, and there are plenty of jobs in sports journalism where he wouldn't be front and center. Seeing as he's chosen to continue his career in the public eye then he has additional responsibilities which wouldn't fall on him if he continued his career in private

Even the most stringent opponent of his has said that if he spent some of his profile fighting against domestic violence they would remove all objections.

He almost paid the ultimate price for what he did - death by suicide. While he was the author of his own misfortune, he doesn't deserve to be vilified in such a savage way by many on here. In fact, early on in his return to the airwaves I've heard him talk about what he went through - not in any great detail but he didn't hide from the fact. I've also heard someone have a crack at him on air and he cut them off with a resigned sigh. I actually used to enjoy his show but in recent times have gone right off his over the top, gushy, self important manner. He did a cod of a thing for sure but everyone should move on.

Kinds of says it all about him..."...about what he went through."

Even his most veiled of apologies have involved victim blaming talking about being in a terrible relationship etc.

He is someone who tried to buy his way out, never apologised, never took the opportunity to use his fame to say "yup, I did it, it was my fault, it was awful, here is what I learnt and here is what you can learn".

Pity that his victim couldn't move on...or her family after seeing the man who violently attack someone given a podium to speak from with seemingly little or no punishment...but hey, he's famous and talks about sport so let's cut him some slack. Would you be so defensive of average Joe Bloggs on the street if he beat up his wife?

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I'd really like to know what you know exactly about what has happened since he carried out that vile assault on his wife/girlfriend. Have you gleaned all of your information from the media or do you know something else? I certainly don't know exactly what has happened or even if he has shown any remorse at all outside of the media gaze. So its pretty rich to base your quite rabid opinion without knowing all of the facts. I don't give a fudge whether or not he's on TV or just some suburban wife beater - what I do care about is people being vilified for things without there being any basis to back the accusations up. Yes, he committed an horrific assault and has been called to account, now you are saying he has shown no remorse etc etc - there is no way in the world you can know that. 

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I'd really like to know what you know exactly about what has happened since he carried out that vile assault on his wife/girlfriend. Have you gleaned all of your information from the media or do you know something else? I certainly don't know exactly what has happened or even if he has shown any remorse at all outside of the media gaze. So its pretty rich to base your quite rabid opinion without knowing all of the facts. I don't give a fudge whether or not he's on TV or just some suburban wife beater - what I do care about is people being vilified for things without there being any basis to back the accusations up. Yes, he committed an horrific assault and has been called to account, now you are saying he has shown no remorse etc etc - there is no way in the world you can know that. 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/79741914/Tony-Veitch-speaks-out-acknowledges-domestic-abuse-of-former-partner-Kristin-Dunne-Powell

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I'd really like to know what you know exactly about what has happened since he carried out that vile assault on his wife/girlfriend. Have you gleaned all of your information from the media or do you know something else? I certainly don't know exactly what has happened or even if he has shown any remorse at all outside of the media gaze. So its pretty rich to base your quite rabid opinion without knowing all of the facts. I don't give a fudge whether or not he's on TV or just some suburban wife beater - what I do care about is people being vilified for things without there being any basis to back the accusations up. Yes, he committed an horrific assault and has been called to account, now you are saying he has shown no remorse etc etc - there is no way in the world you can know that. 

I take it you have never read the above article? So you've assumed I know nothing.

Sounds like you're making excuses for him.

Until I hear it from Veitch himself or his ex-partner, I'll always assume he's a victim blaming, violent person with little remorse for anything other than his own status and career.

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LeighboNZ wrote:

I'd really like to know what you know exactly about what has happened since he carried out that vile assault on his wife/girlfriend. Have you gleaned all of your information from the media or do you know something else? I certainly don't know exactly what has happened or even if he has shown any remorse at all outside of the media gaze. So its pretty rich to base your quite rabid opinion without knowing all of the facts. I don't give a fudge whether or not he's on TV or just some suburban wife beater - what I do care about is people being vilified for things without there being any basis to back the accusations up. Yes, he committed an horrific assault and has been called to account, now you are saying he has shown no remorse etc etc - there is no way in the world you can know that. 

I take it you have never read the above article? So you've assumed I know nothing.

Sounds like you're making excuses for him.

Until I hear it from Veitch himself or his ex-partner, I'll always assume he's a victim blaming, violent person with little remorse for anything other than his own status and career.

Fudge me, did you read what I wrote? so the evidence you provide to disprove that you have made up your mind from media sources - is a media source??? give me a break.
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We don't know what goes on behind closed doors but the fact is he lied and submitted false documents at his court case.

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LeighboNZ wrote:

I'd really like to know what you know exactly about what has happened since he carried out that vile assault on his wife/girlfriend. Have you gleaned all of your information from the media or do you know something else? I certainly don't know exactly what has happened or even if he has shown any remorse at all outside of the media gaze. So its pretty rich to base your quite rabid opinion without knowing all of the facts. I don't give a fudge whether or not he's on TV or just some suburban wife beater - what I do care about is people being vilified for things without there being any basis to back the accusations up. Yes, he committed an horrific assault and has been called to account, now you are saying he has shown no remorse etc etc - there is no way in the world you can know that. 

I take it you have never read the above article? So you've assumed I know nothing.

Sounds like you're making excuses for him.

Until I hear it from Veitch himself or his ex-partner, I'll always assume he's a victim blaming, violent person with little remorse for anything other than his own status and career.

Fudge me, did you read what I wrote? so the evidence you provide to disprove that you have made up your mind from media sources - is a media source??? give me a break.

...and your approach is to give him a fair go because he MAY have apologised?

If Veitch had apologised, he'd be the first to tell everyone who would listen.

Have you actually taken time to read the summary of facts...understand all that went on?

If you haven't, read it and you might understand by "rabid opinion". if you have read it and it still doesn't change your stance, then I'm  appalled.

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