Chris Wood (Burnley FC | England)

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Dare I say it, I think VAR opens the gates for all kinds of potential corruption, what with the huge amounts gambled on games.

That's a goal all day. 

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Nah VAR or any sports video review system, causes everything to be slowed down (ie not in real time) - so that even incredibly minor touches/bumps can seem illegal.

Unless the officials have a real strong 'feel for the game', then dumb decisions can be made. That's whats happened here.

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coochiee wrote:

Nah VAR or any sports video review system, causes everything to be slowed down (ie not in real time) - so that even incredibly minor touches/bumps can seem illegal.

Unless the officials have a real strong 'feel for the game', then dumb decisions can be made. That's whats happened here.

I'm not saying this was an occasion, but the ability to chalk goals off like that really is a powerful thing.

pacy

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martinb wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Nah VAR or any sports video review system, causes everything to be slowed down (ie not in real time) - so that even incredibly minor touches/bumps can seem illegal.

Unless the officials have a real strong 'feel for the game', then dumb decisions can be made. That's whats happened here.

I'm not saying this was an occasion, but the ability to chalk goals off like that really is a powerful thing.

How is that different to before when a referee could do what they like or claim they haven't seen something? Now it is different with replays everywhere you can't feign ignorance.

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Ryan54 wrote:

martinb wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Nah VAR or any sports video review system, causes everything to be slowed down (ie not in real time) - so that even incredibly minor touches/bumps can seem illegal.

Unless the officials have a real strong 'feel for the game', then dumb decisions can be made. That's whats happened here.

I'm not saying this was an occasion, but the ability to chalk goals off like that really is a powerful thing.

How is that different to before when a referee could do what they like or claim they haven't seen something? Now it is different with replays everywhere you can't feign ignorance.

Deliberation time and that that's your only responsibility, and a much vaster array of angles and views. But I guess the public gets the same to judge them.

pacy

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Not in match day squad as Burnley lose 2-4 to Chelsea.

Clarets down 0-4 until 86 mins

US wunderkid Pulisic with a hat trick, for the Blues.

Wood injured?

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coochiee wrote:

Not in match day squad as Burnley lose 2-4 to Chelsea.

Clarets down 0-4 until 86 mins

US wunderkid Pulisic with a hat trick, for the Blues.

Wood injured?

There were reports ahead of the match that he had a tightness in a calf.

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coochiee wrote:

Not in match day squad as Burnley lose 2-4 to Chelsea.

Clarets down 0-4 until 86 mins

US wunderkid Pulisic with a hat trick, for the Blues.

Wood injured?

There were reports ahead of the match that he had a tightness in a calf.

Hammy wasn't it?

Loves a Long Pin

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Yes hammy. Hopefully nothing major, with AWs games approaching.

https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/chelsea/injury-news/news/chris-wood-a-doubt-to-face-chelsea-with-hamstring-injury_376259.html

Has some history with hamstring strains of course.

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Still injured as it turns out.

Missing as Burnley lose 3-0 at Sheffield United.

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tell ya what- seems to have a decent boss 

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Scored Burnley's second in a 3-0 win over West Ham.

Mocked VAR (okay, parodied) during his celebration.

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5 goals over his last 5 EPL games.

May have done his Kiwi team mate Reid a favour, as he seeks to break into Hammers match day squads.

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only watched highlights but, Great finishing by Wood. Both the goal and the disallowed goal.

Hes looking fit and sharp for AW match coming up.

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only watched highlights but, Great finishing by Wood. Both the goal and the disallowed goal.

Hes looking fit and sharp for AW match coming up.

https://myfootballhighlights.com/burnley-vs-west-ham-highlights/

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coochiee wrote:

Ranix wrote:

only watched highlights but, Great finishing by Wood. Both the goal and the disallowed goal.

Hes looking fit and sharp for AW match coming up.

https://myfootballhighlights.com/burnley-vs-west-ham-highlights/

Interesting where they put the VAR lines on his offside goal. Looking at the defender I'd say the initial line they put down which Wood was in front of, was perhaps 2 or 3 inches short of where the defender's shoulder was (not counting the foot mind you which is obstructed)


And for Wood's line (thin yellow line below) they've put it on the tip of his knee when it looks like clearly his upper body and head is closer to goal.

In this case it makes no difference to me, narrowly offside - but it makes you question their margins of error when they can't even decide what part of the body is closer to goal from certain angles - let alone if a part of the body is obstructed by a defender as the right boot is in the first pic.

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In conclusion: VAR is bullshark, bro

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joshyboy007 wrote:

coochiee wrote:

Ranix wrote:

only watched highlights but, Great finishing by Wood. Both the goal and the disallowed goal.

Hes looking fit and sharp for AW match coming up.

https://myfootballhighlights.com/burnley-vs-west-ham-highlights/

Interesting where they put the VAR lines on his offside goal. Looking at the defender I'd say the initial line they put down which Wood was in front of, was perhaps 2 or 3 inches short of where the defender's shoulder was (not counting the foot mind you which is obstructed)


And for Wood's line (thin yellow line below) they've put it on the tip of his knee when it looks like clearly his upper body and head is closer to goal.

In this case it makes no difference to me, narrowly offside - but it makes you question their margins of error when they can't even decide what part of the body is closer to goal from certain angles - let alone if a part of the body is obstructed by a defender as the right boot is in the first pic.

Isn't it the blue line that lines up with the forward most body part for each player? The knee for the defender and Wood's head, the yellow line takes into account the angle of the camera/pitch to compare the relative positions. The issue for me in this is still the margin of error though, given that if the defender was standing in a natural position with no player ahead of him, his foot would be in a position to put Wood onside. On-field decision should have been used.

Damn shame too as it was a freaking sumptuous goal.

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djtim3000 wrote:

Isn't it the blue line that lines up with the forward most body part for each player? The knee for the defender and Wood's head, the yellow line takes into account the angle of the camera/pitch to compare the relative positions. The issue for me in this is still the margin of error though, given that if the defender was standing in a natural position with no player ahead of him, his foot would be in a position to put Wood onside. On-field decision should have been used.

Damn shame too as it was a freaking sumptuous goal.

Yeah true, guess that makes more sense. The blue line is still so hard to trust! Haha

Considering the offside toe in the Spurs v Sheffield game, and here we can't see the whole defending player - it is inconclusive 

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