Liam Jordan says goodbye to MAGS
Looks like Liam Jordan - widely considered to be among NZ's top 15 year old prospects - may have accepted a spot at Wits in the South African league.
Liam Jordan (IF Brommapojkarna | Sweden)
Need to get him playing in the age group sides and not lose him to Sth Africa.
From everything i have heard the kid has real potential to kick on.
not sure if this is right place, but interesting photo of liam jordan could be leaning towards Sth Africa! https://www.facebook.com/Wynrs
Need to get him playing in the age group sides and not lose him to Sth Africa.
From everything i have heard the kid has real potential to kick on.
Too late
"...the young midfielder made two of his sides three goals in the convincing victory. He was later named Player of the Tournament as well"
He still hasn't signed up for them yet so get him in there.
Also we offer access to junior World Cups, something SA don't make. So we have a couple huge carrots to offer him.
Also no smart man wants to stay in SA for too long.
He still hasn't signed up for them yet so get him in there.
Also we offer access to junior World Cups, something SA don't make. So we have a couple huge carrots to offer him.
Also no smart man wants to stay in SA for too long.
His father wanted him to succeed in SA.
He still hasn't signed up for them yet so get him in there.
Also we offer access to junior World Cups, something SA don't make. So we have a couple huge carrots to offer him.
Also no smart man wants to stay in SA for too long.
His father wanted him to succeed in SA.
As highly as I thought of Kieran, I really hope Liam sees NZ as his way forward long term. All good if he's playing for Kaizer Chiefs etc as long as he wears White/Black when it matters
Just completed training programme with Man U
see latest on www.aucklandcityfc.com
How would it be difficult to move to Man U when he is at Sunderland. What am I missing?
Great for the lad though. His Dad was a classy striker.
How would it be difficult to move to Man U when he is at Sunderland. What am I missing?
Great for the lad though. His Dad was a classy striker.
http://www.kickoff.com/news/48902/bidvest-wits-liam-jordan-completes-assessment-at-english-premier-league-giants-manchester-united
He's not at Sunderland, just has another training gig there.
He will return to SA as the article says, assuming nothing comes of his time there.
Hope he kicks on and chooses NZ over SA. I wonder if he is on the u17 u20 radar. Having lived here for 10 years he qualify for a visa.
Thanks Metal. Seems I really cannot read.
He's eligible for NZ 17s but sounds like will go for SA be a shame could go to u17 World Cup would help with visa to get into England if he was an international footballer. Not sure what the chances of SA qualifying for u17 WC
I wonder if he's waiting to see if they make it or not.
Sth African sport is pretty corrupt, not sure why anyone would want to work within that system.
We've lost him. Just been capped for SA U-17's as sub v Cote d'Ivoire.
see www.aucklandcityfc.com latest
We've lost him. Just been capped for SA U-17's as sub v Cote d'Ivoire.
see www.aucklandcityfc.com latest
If has NZ citizenship he can still switch (before 20/21?). Winston Reid and Tommy Smith played for Denmark and England at age group level.
Though, might not choose to anyway.
We've lost him. Just been capped for SA U-17's as sub v Cote d'Ivoire.
see www.aucklandcityfc.com latest
If has NZ citizenship he can still switch (before 20/21?). Winston Reid and Tommy Smith played for Denmark and England at age group level.
Though, might not choose to anyway.
As long as he had a kiwi passport before that game, he can switch at any time so long as he does not play in a WC qualifier or Africa Cup of Nations qualifier for the seniors.
We've lost him. Just been capped for SA U-17's as sub v Cote d'Ivoire.
see www.aucklandcityfc.com latest
If has NZ citizenship he can still switch (before 20/21?). Winston Reid and Tommy Smith played for Denmark and England at age group level.
Though, might not choose to anyway.
As long as he had a kiwi passport before that game, he can switch at any time so long as he does not play in a WC qualifier or Africa Cup of Nations qualifier for the seniors.
That's right.
FIFA abolished the requirement to switch before you turn 21 a few years ago.
The only requirement is that the player be eligible to play for the country he wants to switch to at the time he plays for the other country at age group level. A passport, birth in that country or a parent or grandparent with citizenship, are enough.
An example of someone who fails this requirement is Auckland City's teenager David Browne who can never play for NZ because he played in competitive games for Papua New Guinea u-17's (the land of his birth - PNG mother, English immigrant father) when he wasn't eligible to play for NZ at the time, having no NZ passport or family connections. Browne has been at high school in Auckland for a few years now and playing for Auckland City, but fulfills no criteria to play for NZ in the future.
We've lost him. Just been capped for SA U-17's as sub v Cote d'Ivoire.
see www.aucklandcityfc.com latest
If has NZ citizenship he can still switch (before 20/21?). Winston Reid and Tommy Smith played for Denmark and England at age group level.
Though, might not choose to anyway.
As long as he had a kiwi passport before that game, he can switch at any time so long as he does not play in a WC qualifier or Africa Cup of Nations qualifier for the seniors.
That's right.
FIFA abolished the requirement to switch before you turn 21 a few years ago.
The only requirement is that the player be eligible to play for the country he wants to switch to at the time he plays for the other country at age group level. A passport, birth in that country or a parent or grandparent with citizenship, are enough.
An example of someone who fails this requirement is Auckland City's teenager David Browne who can never play for NZ because he played in competitive games for Papua New Guinea u-17's (the land of his birth - PNG mother, English immigrant father) when he wasn't eligible to play for NZ at the time, having no NZ passport or family connections. Browne has been at high school in Auckland for a few years now and playing for Auckland City, but fulfills no criteria to play for NZ in the future.
What about Residency i.e. 5 years after 18 like Durante?
Durante never played age group for Australia which is why he is eligible for NZ. That would be the reason I think. (unless I have that wrong and he did)
If Browne had never played for PNG, he could have been eligible for both. For me, as much as he is an 'import' I would love to see the Phoenix sign that kid. He has talent in abundance.
Durante never played age group for Australia which is why he is eligible for NZ. That would be the reason I think. (unless I have that wrong and he did)
If Browne had never played for PNG, he could have been eligible for both. For me, as much as he is an 'import' I would love to see the Phoenix sign that kid. He has talent in abundance.
IIRC, he wont be an import if he has NZ citizenship - it is not based on eligibility to represent Australia or NZ, hence Ali Abbas can be considered a local.
re: the David Browne scenario, there was a guy playing for Mexico v the All Whites who had been a Youth International for Argentina... he had switched to Mexico (was not eligible for them at the time he palyed for Argentina), and was allowed to because his youth appearances hadn't been at a FIFA event - does that cloud/confuse things even further?? perhaps David can switch as he didn't play for PNG at an age-group World Cup?
If he can't, then the Argentinian guy should've been ineligible for Mexico...
Durante never played age group for Australia which is why he is eligible for NZ. That would be the reason I think. (unless I have that wrong and he did)
If Browne had never played for PNG, he could have been eligible for both. For me, as much as he is an 'import' I would love to see the Phoenix sign that kid. He has talent in abundance.
No, think you are right. And the reason Lia couldn't become an AW was because he had.
Durante never played age group for Australia which is why he is eligible for NZ. That would be the reason I think. (unless I have that wrong and he did)
If Browne had never played for PNG, he could have been eligible for both. For me, as much as he is an 'import' I would love to see the Phoenix sign that kid. He has talent in abundance.
No, think you are right. And the reason Lia couldn't become an AW was because he had.
Apparently he came to NZ with PNG U17 for Oceania qualifiers several years ago but has not played an"A" International
We've lost him. Just been capped for SA U-17's as sub v Cote d'Ivoire.
see www.aucklandcityfc.com latest
If has NZ citizenship he can still switch (before 20/21?). Winston Reid and Tommy Smith played for Denmark and England at age group level.
Though, might not choose to anyway.
As long as he had a kiwi passport before that game, he can switch at any time so long as he does not play in a WC qualifier or Africa Cup of Nations qualifier for the seniors.
That's right.
FIFA abolished the requirement to switch before you turn 21 a few years ago.
The only requirement is that the player be eligible to play for the country he wants to switch to at the time he plays for the other country at age group level. A passport, birth in that country or a parent or grandparent with citizenship, are enough.
An example of someone who fails this requirement is Auckland City's teenager David Browne who can never play for NZ because he played in competitive games for Papua New Guinea u-17's (the land of his birth - PNG mother, English immigrant father) when he wasn't eligible to play for NZ at the time, having no NZ passport or family connections. Browne has been at high school in Auckland for a few years now and playing for Auckland City, but fulfills no criteria to play for NZ in the future.
Crazy I didn't know his mumma was a New Guinean just out of curiosity is she black ? cause he looks 100% caucasian to me
We've lost him. Just been capped for SA U-17's as sub v Cote d'Ivoire.
see www.aucklandcityfc.com latest
If has NZ citizenship he can still switch (before 20/21?). Winston Reid and Tommy Smith played for Denmark and England at age group level.
Though, might not choose to anyway.
As long as he had a kiwi passport before that game, he can switch at any time so long as he does not play in a WC qualifier or Africa Cup of Nations qualifier for the seniors.
That's right.
FIFA abolished the requirement to switch before you turn 21 a few years ago.
The only requirement is that the player be eligible to play for the country he wants to switch to at the time he plays for the other country at age group level. A passport, birth in that country or a parent or grandparent with citizenship, are enough.
An example of someone who fails this requirement is Auckland City's teenager David Browne who can never play for NZ because he played in competitive games for Papua New Guinea u-17's (the land of his birth - PNG mother, English immigrant father) when he wasn't eligible to play for NZ at the time, having no NZ passport or family connections. Browne has been at high school in Auckland for a few years now and playing for Auckland City, but fulfills no criteria to play for NZ in the future.
Crazy I didn't know his mumma was a New Guinean just out of curiosity is she black ? cause he looks 100% caucasian to me
You do realise that ethnicity does not equal nationality
We've lost him. Just been capped for SA U-17's as sub v Cote d'Ivoire.
see www.aucklandcityfc.com latest
If has NZ citizenship he can still switch (before 20/21?). Winston Reid and Tommy Smith played for Denmark and England at age group level.
Though, might not choose to anyway.
As long as he had a kiwi passport before that game, he can switch at any time so long as he does not play in a WC qualifier or Africa Cup of Nations qualifier for the seniors.
That's right.
FIFA abolished the requirement to switch before you turn 21 a few years ago.
The only requirement is that the player be eligible to play for the country he wants to switch to at the time he plays for the other country at age group level. A passport, birth in that country or a parent or grandparent with citizenship, are enough.
An example of someone who fails this requirement is Auckland City's teenager David Browne who can never play for NZ because he played in competitive games for Papua New Guinea u-17's (the land of his birth - PNG mother, English immigrant father) when he wasn't eligible to play for NZ at the time, having no NZ passport or family connections. Browne has been at high school in Auckland for a few years now and playing for Auckland City, but fulfills no criteria to play for NZ in the future.
Crazy I didn't know his mumma was a New Guinean just out of curiosity is she black ? cause he looks 100% caucasian to me
You do realise that ethnicity does not equal nationality
ha yes of course was just curious
I think he says he feels at home in a SA jumper? Think we have lost him regardless
re: the David Browne scenario, there was a guy playing for Mexico v the All Whites who had been a Youth International for Argentina... he had switched to Mexico (was not eligible for them at the time he palyed for Argentina), and was allowed to because his youth appearances hadn't been at a FIFA event - does that cloud/confuse things even further?? perhaps David can switch as he didn't play for PNG at an age-group World Cup?
If he can't, then the Argentinian guy should've been ineligible for Mexico...
in the playoffs? are you sure?
Apologies, he may not have taken the field v NZ, but he definitely did against Panama, as there was a rumour they were lodging a complaint with FIFA - but then the statement was made declaring him eligible according to FIFA... Andrew Gourdie had a story about it on the news
The bigger worry is this article:
Who ever wrote it, picked up the info from this thread without even bothering to see whether he really was lost to us. Very poor writing.
Apologies, he may not have taken the field v NZ, but he definitely did against Panama, as there was a rumour they were lodging a complaint with FIFA - but then the statement was made declaring him eligible according to FIFA... Andrew Gourdie had a story about it on the news
He played in the U20 South America Tournament. But because Argentina had qualified for the U20 WC by being hosts, it didn't count as representing them.
As the current tournament is a WCQ competition, Liam would need to have had NZ nationality because he represented SA.
He still hasn't signed up for them yet so get him in there.
Also we offer access to junior World Cups, something SA don't make. So we have a couple huge carrots to offer him.
Also no smart man wants to stay in SA for too long.
His father wanted him to succeed in SA.
Right there.
A very proud moment for us today as our former elite school member Liam Jonathan Jordan signs his first professiona… pic.twitter.com/PlPKhrCY8N
— WGTN Phoenix SS (@WGTNPhoenixSS) August 1, 2016
http://www.kickoff.com/news/67674/liam-jordan-signs-for-portuguese-giants-sporting-lisbon
That's great news for him.
Shame he isn't eligible for NZ.
He is eligible - he spent over 10 years here
He is eligible - he spent over 10 years here
And we need to be doing everything we can to get him into the NZ system... we have the Confed Cup, age group world cups... lets dangle some carrots!
Are we sure he became a NZ Citizen? I do recall reading that Keryn's health status precluded him from becoming one, and that this might have got in Liam's way too? Somebody out there will know better, but that was something that was in the local media at the time.
His dads health would have only affected his own application at the time... but memory I thought his dad became a citizen. I'd be surprised if they didn't all get it as a family