The shame of FIFA - Don't be silent

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foal30 wrote:

be BLack and/or poor Ryan?

General left-wing crap.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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I do detect a degree of hypocracy from some of you.

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how so? You think they're using slaves to build stadiums too?

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Let's face it, opposing slavery is "general left-wing crap". 

But any fule know that all the Gulf oil states operate like this - the actual locals live lives of ease while bonded immigrant labour does all the actual work and is deprived of all human rights in return for a bare living. I'm in favour of a campaign, but what are we protesting in particular - Qatar's slave-labour regime or FIFA corruption? Mixing the two up will lead to a confusing public message.

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Does it really matter if its left wing or right wing, its disgusting.

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You can follow Seep Blatter on Twitter: @SeppBlatter

He's been gobsmacking today:

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I think the point of a campaign would be to raise awareness about the kafala system in the Gulf States by highlighting the fact that Qatar 2022 is being built on the back of slave labour and FIFA could stop this if they wanted to but they choose not to. That's the narrative. The boiled down messages that the ITUC are using (not that we have to follow suit if we have better ideas) are "don't shame the game" and "no World Cup without workers' rights" - that's the global campaign that already exists.

Edited by Enzo Giordani May 12, 2015 22:22

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Go to Qatar and protest if you feel strongly about it. Or dont watch the World Cup when it is on

Bandwaggoning I reckon

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Given that Sepp says ALL discrimination will not be tolerated - that's huge news - gay people will apparently be welcome in Russia2018 and Qatar2022!

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bwtcf wrote:
Given that Sepp says ALL discrimination will not be tolerated - that's huge news - gay people will apparently be welcome in Russia2018 and Qatar2022!
Sepp doesn't set the laws of the countries though. 

Actually that's not quite true, he only does it when he needs a law change to keep the sponsors happy.


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I for one will watch the World Cup I love football.FIFA run the game they don't own it. as for the slave like condiitions well you could also blame the governments. Look at NZ trying to get a free trade deal in Saudi Arabia. 

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I find similarities in blaming Holden for a person that drives like a maniac...

I agree with Hepatitis

Grumpy old bastard alert

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patrick478 wrote:

bwtcf wrote:
Given that Sepp says ALL discrimination will not be tolerated - that's huge news - gay people will apparently be welcome in Russia2018 and Qatar2022!
Sepp doesn't set the laws of the countries though. 

Actually that's not quite true, he only does it when he needs a law change to keep the sponsors happy.


Exactly.

He will do it when it affects his revenue stream - over the all important issue of beer for spectators - sorry I mean beer sales for his sponsor, but he won't do it when it involves 4,000 slaves dying in the construction of the stadia.

That's obscene.

THAT's the point of the protest.

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I for one will watch the World Cup I love football.FIFA run the game they don't own it. as for the slave like condiitions well you could also blame the governments. Look at NZ trying to get a free trade deal in Saudi Arabia. 

I have already said I will watch it too. The whole proposal involves watching it, and protesting.

You say you could also blame the governements. I do. 

However that does not mean this should not be protested. You can do both, sorry all threee - attempt to hold FIFA to account, complain to your government, AND attend the football. Which is exactly what I am proposing.

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Jeff Vader wrote:

I find similarities in blaming Holden for a person that drives like a maniac...

I agree with Hepatitis

Would you say that if the World Cup was being held in apartheid South Africa?

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Jeff Vader wrote:

I find similarities in blaming Holden for a person that drives like a maniac...

I agree with Hepatitis

That doesn't make sense. Holden can't stop people misusing their cars, and where they can add safety mechanisms. FIFA could stop the use of slaves to build stadia in Qatar, but choose not to.

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I could do with a few slaves at my place, I tell you......renovating is a bastard, so a few experienced (bonded) workers wouldn't go astray

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awkward

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Making light of thousands of workers dying in appalling conditions thousands of kilometres from their families; that's one hell of a first post.

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Rusty Dunks wrote:

I could do with a few slaves at my place, I tell you......renovating is a bastard, so a few experienced (bonded) workers wouldn't go astray

We have a rule on these forums that says "think before you post". I suggest you do exactly that before making another post like this one.

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