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sanday wrote:
It is mentioned in the Herald article above.Doesn't appear anything is set in stone.
Thanks I'd clicked the link but only getting around to read it now.
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Great, if Napier has a Group of 4, we have 4 home bases available for teams:
 
Venue: McLean Park
 
Base 1: Bluewater Stadium at Park Island
Base 2: Tremain Field at Park Island
Base 3: Regional Sports Park at Hastings
Base 4: Hastings Rugby & Sports at Hastings
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I see Colombia are using eight stadiums in eight cities.
Maybe Napier may share a group with another city?
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10710262

Soccer: This coup will bring worldwide exposure

"With a guaranteed television audience of 500 million or so worldwide, it is a second-to-none chance - and certainly much bigger than the Rugby World Cup - to showcase New Zealand to the world."

might upset a few rugby fans!    
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Ill be eligible for this. Would be amazing
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I doubt Napier would host a group. Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin will probably host groups, Napier will share one and New Zealand's group will be shifted around the country.
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George Kostanza wrote:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10710262

Soccer: This coup will bring worldwide exposure

"With a guaranteed television audience of 500 million or so worldwide, it is a second-to-none chance - and certainly much bigger than the Rugby World Cup - to showcase New Zealand to the world."

might upset a few rugby fans!    


I'm what you would call a rugby fan but those figures certainly do make a mockery of the RWC calling itself the 3rd biggest sporting event on the planet.
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William wrote:
I doubt Napier would host a group. Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin will probably host groups, Napier will share one and New Zealand's group will be shifted around the country.
Why not? Napier/Hastings is the 4th largest urban area in the Country [ahead of Dunedin]. We are stronger in footballing terms than Otago, have a greater recent football history than Otago [last 25 years] etc etc
 
In saying all of that, games may be shared around but not if you base it on population base.
 
Edit: sorry 5th
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tomrewi wrote:
Ill be eligible for this. Would be amazing


He's small, a fever lad
He doesn't rate Rory's dad
Tom Rewi, Tom Rewi
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William wrote:
George Kostanza wrote:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10710262

Soccer: This coup will bring worldwide exposure

"With a guaranteed television audience of 500 million or so worldwide, it is a second-to-none chance - and certainly much bigger than the Rugby World Cup - to showcase New Zealand to the world."

might upset a few rugby fans!    


I'm what you would call a rugby fan but those figures certainly do make a mockery of the RWC calling itself the 3rd biggest sporting event on the planet.
I hope the RWC does Ok in NZ but it is now well established that it being the 3rd biggest sporting event on the planet is an urban myth. A while ago in one of these forums someone published figures for major global sports events i.e TV etc. The RWC did not even make the top 15.
Football WC, Olympics, Wimbledon, US tennis, golf US masters, Superbowl playoffs, Daytonna, F1 winter Olympics, European cup, Champs League were tops from memory.
 
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zinidane wrote:
William wrote:
George Kostanza wrote:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10710262 Soccer: This coup will bring worldwide exposure "With a guaranteed television audience of 500 million or so worldwide, it is a second-to-none chance - and certainly much bigger than the Rugby World Cup - to showcase New Zealand to the world." might upset a few rugby fans!    
I'm what you would call a rugby fan but those figures certainly do make a mockery of the RWC calling itself the 3rd biggest sporting event on the planet.


I hope the RWC does Ok in NZ but it is now well established that it being the 3rd biggest sporting event on the planet is an urban myth. A while ago in one of these forums someone published figures for major global sports events i.e TV etc. The RWC did not even make the top 15.
Football WC, Olympics, Wimbledon, US tennis, golf US masters, Superbowl playoffs, Daytonna, F1 winter Olympics, European cup, Champs League�were tops from memory.

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yep - the bullsh*t/lie/hype has been exposed for some time now and is getting trotted out a whole lot less often
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William wrote:
I doubt Napier would host a group. Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin will probably host groups, Napier will share one and New Zealand's group will be shifted around the country.
 
That makes 4 cities...
and there are 6 groups.
 
pretty sure NZF will be looking to spread the groups around the country, as opposed to giving auckland 2 or something.
 
I doubt that it would be logistically viable for a single group to be shared around the whole country
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join up to their facebook page. good to see Auckland and Wellington mayors showing their support.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/FIFA-U-20-World-Cup-New-Zealand-2015/170139679701177?ref=mf
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Smeltz4PM wrote:
William wrote:
I doubt Napier would host a group. Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin will probably host groups, Napier will share one and New Zealand's group will be shifted around the country.

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That makes 4 cities...

and there are 6 groups.

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pretty sure NZF will be looking to spread the groups around the country, as opposed to giving auckland 2 or something.

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I doubt that it would be logistically viable for a single group to be shared around the whole country

I see those 4 cities hosting the bulk of each group (probably 4 out of the 6 games), then I see another group probably being hosted by Tauranga, Napier and Hamilton.

I don't know if the whole group will be shifted around the country but I think you will see New Zealand games played in the three main centres instead of playing them all in one city and having the rest of the country missing out.
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If we can make it to Brazil 2014 then I can see a HUGE turnout by NZers. Either way awesome for NZF
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Weah wrote:
If we can make it to Brazil 2014 then I can see a HUGE turnout by NZers. Either way awesome for NZF

I think we will get a huge turn out anyway. North Harbour Stadium had 13,000 to watch the New Zealand women's U-17 team play their opening match in 2008. Surely on that figure we could get some sell outs. I reckon the final, semi finals and all three New Zealand games will be sell outs or at least very close to it.

I mean the Rowing World Championships had 20,000 on its final day last year and this is a far, far bigger event.
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William wrote:


I mean the Rowing World Championships had 20,000 on its final day last year and this is a far, far bigger event.


To be fair, Rowing is potentially the only sport in the entire world that: a) we're consistently good at and; b) the rest of the actually gives a damn about it.
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I wonder how many overseas fans would turn up?   You would expect heaps from sth America and maybe Asia.
 
 
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zinidane wrote:
I wonder how many overseas fans would turn up?�� You would expect heaps from sth America and maybe Asia.
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Be a hell of a lot more diverse than the rugby world cup thats for sure.
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That Dunedin stadium looks cool. Is it a bit like an awning over your back yard? [larger scale of course] Canvas type roofing from those stands on the left over to what looks like a stand with facilities included.
Is there going to be seating on the ends??  Why go to all the expense and effort to only build half a stadium.
I guess as no one turns up to the rugby in Dunedin anymore that they didn't need a massive capacity.
RoF still the best stadium in the country.
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I was just looking at the FIFA website

The U20 World Cup in Columbia has already presold 100,000 tickets   Thats for a tournament starting at the end of July and without knowing what teams are playing
 
Definately sounds like a big event
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100,000 attended the final between Ghana and Brazil in Cairo in 2009.
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This is going to be soo awesome... Come Play Australia!
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zinidane wrote:
I wonder how many overseas fans would turn up?   You would expect heaps from sth America and maybe Asia.
 
 

I would say most would come from Asia. oh and dont forget the Aussies...
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When will we know which stadiums get allocated games?
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May be a while before we hear about that LG, it's still 4 years away.
 
If the Rugby World Cup has a Minister, does that mean the U-20 competition will have a minister assigned to it?
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May be a while before we hear about that LG, it's still 4 years away.

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If the Rugby World Cup has a�Minister, does that mean the U-20 competition will have a minister assigned to it?

No because this tournament is rightfully or wrongfully less important to the average New Zealander than the RWC. Besides, New Zealand has way too many ministers as i9t stands.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10750201
 
surely we'd get more than 9,500 visitors.  how could they make a prediciton like that when the tournament isn't for another 4 years?
 
 
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Would you ever travel to another country to watch the NZ U20s?  I wouldn't probabyl unless I had a relative in the team.  I don't think that is an unrealistic figure TBH
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Oceanic6 wrote:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10750201
 
surely we'd get more than 9,500 visitors.  how could they make a prediciton like that when the tournament isn't for another 4 years?
 
 
NZ's just a bit too far off the beaten track for many fans to travel from the football-crazed centres of Europe and South America, whilst our closest neighbours over the ditch, like us, don't have a developed football culture yet whereby large numbers would travel the relatively short distance (despite cheap airfares too these days) to follow a major youth tournament (actually. THE major youth football tournament or arguably THE major youth sports event on the planet).
 
Recent U-20 World Cup in Colombia attracted about 1.2 million spectators to stadiums- anyone who saw NZ's games on TV would have been surprised at the large numbers of locals at even NZ's games (we're talking tens of thousands here). Double-headers proved popular with e.g. NZ playing before a bigger game.
 
Colombia proved an ideal venue too because it was easy for fans from other South American countries to travel across the border from Chile, Brazil etc. e.g. cannily, Chile's games were played at the closest Colombian stadiums to Chile. Thus tens of thousands of foreign fans attended. 
 
Won't happen here of course, though the comparison with a quoted prediction of 85,000 foreign fans attending the Rugby World Cup seems way off- in reality I think they'll probably end up with half that number if they're lucky. The only countries with significant numbers of fans are Australia and the UK teams. Can't imagine large numbers of French, Argentinians etc.
 
If what's written in that Herald report is accurate, the economic benefits to a region from hosting the U-20 Cup seem well-worthwhile from a relatively small outlay:
 
"A report commissioned by the New Zealand Football Federation showed hosting Fifa's second-largest tournament would offer $2.92 million worth of benefits to a region.
 
But the minimum investment would be $300,000 for at least three pool games and a knock-out match and rising to $900,000 for at least three pool matches, knock-out round, quarter-final, semifinal, grand final and hosting Fifa headquarters and media.

The host centre would also have to provide four training grounds within a 45-minute drive.

.... The deadline for a bid is November 30."

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Councillors wary of hosting Fifa soccer contest after V8 loss

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10767564

doesn't look like Hamilton will put in a bid
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http://www.northernadvocate.co.nz/news/city-vying-to-be-u-20-fifa-host/1183429/

Whangarei? Really?
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Hamilton is out. One of the best football stadiums in the country, and they're not going to bid. What a waste

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10768491&ref=rss
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Piss poor decision from my home town.  I wish it was local body elections as well as national, as I'd vote those losers out.  They screwed up over the V8s, not the people and businesses from Hamilton/Waikato.  This will hurt the city long term.
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Totally agree. This is actually profitable, now they just won't spend on anything. Hopefully they're all voted out, and I'll have to travel to watch the games
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/football/6097111/Dunedin-in-bid-for-Fifa-Under-20-final

so the under 20 wc will be played in winter. what's the bet rugby will kick up a fuss as it will no doubt impact on it's season?

and go dunners!




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Hamilton's business owners seem really keen on hosting some games. Good to see!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10784059

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