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Buffon II
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We missed out with 75 points two years ago. The quality of the top 6 is like no other league in Europe.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Szczesny did a polish interview where he commented on heaps of arsenal players, its hilarious. Transcript of the player commemts here: https://arseblog.news/2019/03/szczesnys-hilarious-assessment-of-former-arsenal-teammates/

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paulm wrote:

Szczesny did a polish interview where he commented on heaps of arsenal players, its hilarious. Transcript of the player commemts here: https://arseblog.news/2019/03/szczesnys-hilarious...

This was the best Arsenal related thing I've read in a while. We should get Szcz. Podolski and Frimpong in a room together for a roundtable.

Also, would love if Giroud came back to fill the Welbeck role. Not sure if that's enough for him though.

a.haak

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Wilshere drunk and sleeping in the bushes hahahaha

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Good lord this international window is the worst. We've got no real Arsenal news, and an active forum arguing the definition of Ole's experience and what the manc evening news thinks of the scenario. Jesus wept.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

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Giroud scored for France again, there's always that 

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Gabon's missed out on qualifying for the ACN this summer which mean Auba gets a solid break.

Guys from Arseblog are totally freaking out about the lack of sporting director. It seems justified, but at the same time it's not like our entire scouting department have left, of Emery & Sanllehi have no idea about the type of players we need/want this coming summer.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

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Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

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paulm wrote:

Giroud scored for France again, there's always that 

And again this morning...

Clear third on France's all time list now, behind only Thierry Henry and Michel Platini. Levels. 

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Giroud is a beautiful man.

Feels like we haven't played in about 3 years. This international stuff is sharke.

Three for me, and two for them.

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Bring back Giroud.

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Found this an absolutely fascinating watch.

Saw this on Twitter, very interesting. Chelsea just explode out of nowhere in 2003, as do Man City in 2008. Two sharkhouse oil clubs that would be in League 1 if they weren't taken over by corrupt oligarchs.

Ok I know you might not be all that serious but I'll bite anyway. 

It always grates me when Chelsea and City are lumped together with regards to their takeovers. 

In the 7 seasons prior to our takeover we finished 6th, 4th, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 6th, 4th. In those 7 seasons we won 2 FA Cups, a League Cup, a Cup Winners Cup, a Super Cup and a Community Shield. As well as making a Champions League QF and losing another FA Cup final.

Man City really were a mid tabling team before their takeover with a best finish in the 7 seasons prior to their takeover of 8th.

Also there were key players in our first title winning season 04/05 who were at the team prior to the takeover (Terry, Lampard, Gudjohnson, Gallas)

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Yeah, have to agree with that - Chelsea were never the best, but they were always there or there abouts. Man City were, at times, a complete and utter joke.

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Downey26 wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

brumbys wrote:

Found this an absolutely fascinating watch.

Saw this on Twitter, very interesting. Chelsea just explode out of nowhere in 2003, as do Man City in 2008. Two sharkhouse oil clubs that would be in League 1 if they weren't taken over by corrupt oligarchs.

Ok I know you might not be all that serious but I'll bite anyway. 

It always grates me when Chelsea and City are lumped together with regards to their takeovers. 

In the 7 seasons prior to our takeover we finished 6th, 4th, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 6th, 4th. In those 7 seasons we won 2 FA Cups, a League Cup, a Cup Winners Cup, a Super Cup and a Community Shield. As well as making a Champions League QF and losing another FA Cup final.

Man City really were a mid tabling team before their takeover with a best finish in the 7 seasons prior to their takeover of 8th.

Also there were key players in our first title winning season 04/05 who were at the team prior to the takeover (Terry, Lampard, Gudjohnson, Gallas)

Not entirely serious no but you are aware of the financial situation surrounding Chelsea prior to Abramovich buying the club, right? 

Three for me, and two for them.

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Downey26 wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

brumbys wrote:

Found this an absolutely fascinating watch.

Saw this on Twitter, very interesting. Chelsea just explode out of nowhere in 2003, as do Man City in 2008. Two sharkhouse oil clubs that would be in League 1 if they weren't taken over by corrupt oligarchs.

Ok I know you might not be all that serious but I'll bite anyway. 

It always grates me when Chelsea and City are lumped together with regards to their takeovers. 

In the 7 seasons prior to our takeover we finished 6th, 4th, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 6th, 4th. In those 7 seasons we won 2 FA Cups, a League Cup, a Cup Winners Cup, a Super Cup and a Community Shield. As well as making a Champions League QF and losing another FA Cup final.

Man City really were a mid tabling team before their takeover with a best finish in the 7 seasons prior to their takeover of 8th.

Also there were key players in our first title winning season 04/05 who were at the team prior to the takeover (Terry, Lampard, Gudjohnson, Gallas)

All fair comments, but doesn't change anything. Chelsea did indeed 'explode out of nowhere' when it comes to the animation we are talking about. They were not big spenders, then they were. Same as Man City. 

Their credibility and results as a club prior to that happening are a different story altogether, and were very different to Man City's - I agree with you on that, for sure. 

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paulm wrote:

Downey26 wrote:

Buffon II wrote:

brumbys wrote:

Found this an absolutely fascinating watch.

Saw this on Twitter, very interesting. Chelsea just explode out of nowhere in 2003, as do Man City in 2008. Two sharkhouse oil clubs that would be in League 1 if they weren't taken over by corrupt oligarchs.

Ok I know you might not be all that serious but I'll bite anyway. 

It always grates me when Chelsea and City are lumped together with regards to their takeovers. 

In the 7 seasons prior to our takeover we finished 6th, 4th, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 6th, 4th. In those 7 seasons we won 2 FA Cups, a League Cup, a Cup Winners Cup, a Super Cup and a Community Shield. As well as making a Champions League QF and losing another FA Cup final.

Man City really were a mid tabling team before their takeover with a best finish in the 7 seasons prior to their takeover of 8th.

Also there were key players in our first title winning season 04/05 who were at the team prior to the takeover (Terry, Lampard, Gudjohnson, Gallas)

All fair comments, but doesn't change anything. Chelsea did indeed 'explode out of nowhere' when it comes to the animation we are talking about. They were not big spenders, then they were. Same as Man City. 

Their credibility and results as a club prior to that happening are a different story altogether, and were very different to Man City's - I agree with you on that, for sure. 

Yea it was more the "they would be in League 1" comment.

Obviously the club was in trouble financially and it was great to have Roman buy the club, also great to have Ken Bates no longer involved.

Though given their success, being an established top 6 premier league team in the UCL, if Roman didn't buy I'm thinking Bates would have been able to find investors?

Maybe/maybe not. 

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Some rumours about. 

Guardian and others claiming that Umtiti and Alaba are at the top of our list for the summer. 

There are some personal connections working in our favour, with Alaba saying he's always been an Arsenal fan, and Umtiti being best friends with Lacazette (they played at Lyon together as well). 

To be honest they seem unlikely on the face of it, given our recent financial constraints. however there was talk that the reason we had no money was because we needed to hold back for the Summer due to financial rules, not sure how true that is. And if we can make the Champions League then that would boost us financially, and make us a more attractive destination for the players. 

Also being linked with Herrera who is off contract at ManU at the end of the season. He's an all effort player who I hate when we play against, and he does seem to be the type that Emery would like, so I wouldn't be averse to that, but again seems unlikely. I think he might re-sign there, or if he does leave, some other big clubs are being linked that would probably be more attractive - PSG, Juve, Barca, apparently. Might just be agent noise to get the wages he wants, to be fair. 

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Good lord they would be amazing signings.

Arseblog did a good write up the wage savings here: https://arseblog.com/2019/03/the-great-arsenal-wage-saving-of-summer-2019/

Quick summary was that if you estimated the following weekly salaries gone:

Ramsey, Welbeck, Cech, Elneny, Mustafi, Jenkinson, and Ozil we'd be looking at wiping out nearly 850,000 per week, or 44m per year.

Granted, we may offer Welbeck a sympathy extension, Elneny/Mustafi/Jenkinson/Ozil might not be sold. But you'd expect a combination too.

It also doesn't take into account whether Koscielny or Monreal moves on, what happens with Lichsteiner, or any other shock departures.

I think we'll have a massive summer, with a number of outgoings and a smaller amount of incomings of a decent quality.

Edit: I'd take Herera in a heartbeat. If he was going overseas you'd think that would be locked in now like Ramsey is. He's either holding out to stay with United or in the EPL.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

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Transfer window: Wow, Umtiti! Alaba!

Start of next season: Well, Holding is back from injury so he's like a new signing.

a.haak

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valeo wrote:

Transfer window: Wow, Umtiti! Alaba!

Start of next season: Well, Holding is back from injury so he's like a new signing.

Fudgeing spot on.

Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.

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