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Which of these teams do you think will make a suprise appearance (and prolonged stay) in the top 10 this season?
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My vote will go to Sunderland, but I think they all could produce something.
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Derby are so down before they start!   I think Sunderland and Brum could be OK.  Good year to be up with Fulham and Wigan is such poor shape.
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Fulham and Wigan are going, or atleast close to it...im going to go as far as predicting Middlesbrough to struggle...


i think Sunderland could be the 'suprise package' this season
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I picked Derby. West Ham were promoted via the playoffs and they finished about 9th and made the FA Cup final.  
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Orpewise wrote:
Derby are so down before they start!   I think Sunderland and Brum could be OK.  Good year to be up with Fulham and Wigan is such poor shape.


Are you originally from Nottingham,that small town in Derby?
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f**k off Birmingham will.
 
I think and hope out of those, Sunderland.
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Bottom four will be Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and Derby, not necessarily in that order.
Sunderland will finish top six, Birmingham and Boro' just outside the relegation zone.
 
Others movers? Villa will finish top six. Arsenal will finish 7th. First manager to go will be Chris Hutchings or Sammy Lee.
 
Coming up at the end of this year will be Wolves, Charlton and Southampton, again, not necessarily in that order. Coventry will push them all the way, as will Palace.
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TheJam wrote:
Bottom four will be Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and Derby, not necessarily in that order.
Sunderland will finish top six, Birmingham and Boro' just outside the relegation zone.
 
Others movers? Villa will finish top six. Arsenal will finish 7th. First manager to go will be Chris Hutchings or Sammy Lee.
 
Coming up at the end of this year will be Wolves, Charlton and Southampton, again, not necessarily in that order. Coventry will push them all the way, as will Palace.


Great stuff!!!!  As a Sunderland fan it is good to hear people thinking they will do well.  I sure hope that they do well.  I'm hoping that they bring in some good signings.  It has been rather quiet at the moment but I am sure that Roy Keane can attract some good players.

Did they see that they will be playing Juve to celebrate 10 years at the Stadium of Light.  That will be a great fixture.
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I hope Sunderland stay up but they will need to sign quality players fast if thats going to happen.
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TheJam wrote:
Bottom four will be Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and Derby, not necessarily in that order.
Sunderland will finish top six, Birmingham and Boro' just outside the relegation zone.
 
Others movers? Villa will finish top six. Arsenal will finish 7th. First manager to go will be Chris Hutchings or Sammy Lee.
 
Coming up at the end of this year will be Wolves, Charlton and Southampton, again, not necessarily in that order. Coventry will push them all the way, as will Palace.


What bizarre predictions! I'll quote them now and bump them again at the end of the season.
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Arsenal 7th. . I reckon Chelsea might drop to 4th, with liverpool and arsenal sticking to Man U and fighting for 2nd & 3rd for most of the season. I think everton wil finish top 6, with tottenham and blackburn in that area aswell. The biggest suprise this season may well be Portsmouth again.

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TheJam wrote:
Bottom four will be Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and Derby, not necessarily in that order.
Sunderland will finish top six, Birmingham and Boro' just outside the relegation zone.
 
 
Bolton bottom four? Big call TJ.
 
With the resources Big Sam had compared to what he has now I'm surprised you're not picking the Toon to win the league. 
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Personally I'm a bit worried about spurs so far. Only major signing has been bent, who i'm not convinced by. . . . Still plenty of time left, and I hope THFC get the cheque book out.
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Spurs signed Gareth bale aswell. But need a decent player wide on the left,Keane could drop wide leaving Bent, Berbatov up front. Be pushing for 4th.
Wigan and Boro will struggle.
Sanchez turnred around Northern Ireland, has bought in a couple of players, think they should just be safe.
Derby, Wigan gone. Wolves promoted.
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I predict that Sunderland will get more than they managed last time they were in the premiership
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UberGunner wrote:

Arsenal 7th. . I reckon Chelsea might drop to 4th, with liverpool and arsenal sticking to Man U and fighting for 2nd & 3rd for most of the season. I think everton wil finish top 6, with tottenham and blackburn in that area aswell. The biggest suprise this season may well be Portsmouth again.



That sounds pretty likely to me too. Man U will still be very hard to beat. But I think the top four are safe.
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Sunderland will do well
Newcastle will surprise
I think top 3 will be Man U, Chelsea and Liverpool (not sure what order)
Liverpool to be champions following season - this year will be rebuilding
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Arsenal wrote:
TheJam wrote:
Bottom four will be Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and Derby, not necessarily in that order.
Sunderland will finish top six, Birmingham and Boro' just outside the relegation zone.
 
Others movers? Villa will finish top six. Arsenal will finish 7th. First manager to go will be Chris Hutchings or Sammy Lee.
 
Coming up at the end of this year will be Wolves, Charlton and Southampton, again, not necessarily in that order. Coventry will push them all the way, as will Palace.


What bizarre predictions! I'll quote them now and bump them again at the end of the season.
I'm happy for you to do that. In fact, a week out from the start of the season, I'll make predictions for all the leagues and hopefully everyone will follow up with theirs.
 
BTW, are my predictions "bizarre" just because I suggest a bad season ahead for the Gunners?
I feel they've been on the wane for a couple of seasons and now they've got to somehow replace the one real consistent match-winner in their squad.
They've got too many players who flatter to deceive (Adebayor, Hleb, Baptista etc) and while a couple of these might come right as they mature and adapt to what's required of them at the moment they don't have the consistency, individually or as a team, to finish top four.
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TheJam wrote:
Bottom four will be Bolton, Fulham, Wigan and Derby, not necessarily in that order.
Sunderland will finish top six, Birmingham and Boro' just outside the relegation zone.
 
 
Bolton bottom four? Big call TJ.
 
With the resources Big Sam had compared to what he has now I'm surprised you're not picking the Toon to win the league. 
 
 
The manager at Newcastle has never really been the problem, the problem is above him. Although the managers there can take a bit of flak for some poor signings over the years the thing that's held Newcastle back for the last twenty years has been the weight of expectation and the guidance from above.
They have recruited managers well, and everyone who has taken over has been a logical appointment at the time. The problem has been that none has seemed to have performed, despite most being successful elsewhere. It'll take Big Sam more than a year to sort all of that out, especially when he's used to such an amazingly supportive Chairman in Phil Gartside.
 
Bolton's problem will be engendering the same post-Crazy-Gang spirit now that their talisman and cheerleader has gone. They've got an inexperienced manager who's got all kind of issues to sort out.
Anelka will start causing problems and then leave (he's had his customary season and a half), Campo's not the influence he was and neither is Speed, who will have to contribute more off the park in his new role.
If the rumours that Jaskelinen (sp?) and Gardner might leave come true then they are well and truly in the poo.
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charliec wrote:
Sunderland will do well
Newcastle will surprise
I think top 3 will be Man U, Chelsea and Liverpool (not sure what order)
Liverpool to be champions following season - this year will be rebuilding
 
Liverpool have been "rebuilding" for twenty years now.
Also, I think that this will be the year the traditional top four of Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool is broken. I reckon Villa might do it, but otherwise look for Everton or even West Ham (if they can retain Tevez) break through. Sunderland will be close, I can see Roy Keane becoming one of football's greatest managers over the coming years.
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The idea that Arsenal are waning is a bit premature. We have just gone through 2 transitional seasons and have taken a few knocks over that time. Carling cup final last year. Champions league final the year before. A combination of a new stadium and a lack of confidence after having our front men injured Henry/ RVP (and Bergkamp retiring was a huge influence) didn't help our cause, yet we still managed to finish fourth, and out of the six times we played the top 3 teams, we lost 1 (vs Liverpool 1 week after we had scored 10 goals against them in 2 games.), won 3 ( 2 vs Man U 1vs Liverpool) and Chelsea just scraped 2 draws against us (with last minute goals on both occasions) I have heard that Fab, Hleb, Rosicky, and Adebayour will spend alot of time in pre season getting thier finishing up to scratch. If they net half as many of the chances this season as they had last season I think everyteam will go back to fearing us like they used to.
Quite frankly the top 3 teams spend so much money on players compared to us because they dont have as much depth in thier youth systems, they have to buy established players just to stay competitive. We have spent very little over the years as we buy the players before we need them, and by the time we do, they are usually ready for it. To give an example of this, the three promoted teams this season all relied on contributions from Arsenal youth players (loaned & transfered).  Anthony Stokes at Sunderland, Lupoli at Derby and Larrson, Bendtner and Muamba at Birmingham City. I know this seems long winded but having supported Arsenal for a long time im aware of the bigger picture, too many people are saying we are crap now Henry is gone, and quite frankly I think we are actually a little less predictable and more dangerous up front without him.
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Well stated Uber.

What people are forgetting is that last season Henry played just 17 matches for 10 goals before injury. We had van Persie play just 21 games before injury. And Walcott missed a significant part of the season with injury too.

Yet we were unchallenged for 4th, nearly got third, beat Man U twice, drew twice with Chelsea due to their late goals and went square with Liverpool (as you rightly pointed out).

People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next season need to check the facts.


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Arsenal wrote:
Well stated Uber.

People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next season need to check the facts.

 
"People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next season" are expressing an opinion over future events, and, as far as I'm aware, there are no facts available to back up what will happen in the future. Facts, by definition, are historical data.
Anyway, my point is that next season I don't feel Arsenal will challenge. I stand by that and I'll happily hold up my hands if I'm proved wrong.
Beyond next season I'm sure they will rebound and continue to be one of the big clubs in England. It's just that I can see a tough season ahead for them, not just through the loss of Henry (whose leaving, as has been said, may prove to be a blessing in disguise), but also the unsettling departure of David Dein and the probable upcoming departure of Wenger.
There is also a real need to replace Lehmann pretty quickly, he's got a year left in him tops.
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Arsenal wrote:
Well stated Uber.

People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next season need to check the facts.

 
"People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next season" are expressing an opinion over future events, and, as far as I'm aware, there are no facts available to back up what will happen in the future. Facts, by definition, are historical data.
Anyway, my point is that next season I don't feel Arsenal will challenge. I stand by that and I'll happily hold up my hands if I'm proved wrong.
Beyond next season I'm sure they will rebound and continue to be one of the big clubs in England. It's just that I can see a tough season ahead for them, not just through the loss of Henry (whose leaving, as has been said, may prove to be a blessing in disguise), but also the unsettling departure of David Dein and the probable upcoming departure of Wenger.
There is also a real need to replace Lehmann pretty quickly, he's got a year left in him tops.


We have signed a new Polish keeper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%81ukasz_Fabia%C5%84ski

And it is a fact that Henry never contributed much last season, so to state his departure means the end of Arsenal is, quite frankly, ridiculous.


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for all your "our record against the top 4 was great" statements, keep in mind that you got beat twice by the hammers.
 
So did Man Utd as well.
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Congratulations on avoiding relegation. 
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Thanks Mac. It sounded so good to hear that again.

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Arsenal wrote:
[QUOTE=TheJam][QUOTE=Arsenal]
"People saying that it's all over for Arsenal next season" are expressing an opinion over future events, and, as far as I'm aware, there are no facts available to back up what will happen in the future. Facts, by definition, are historical data.
Anyway, my point is that next season I don't feel Arsenal will challenge. I stand by that and I'll happily hold up my hands if I'm proved wrong.
Beyond next season I'm sure they will rebound and continue to be one of the big clubs in England. It's just that I can see a tough season ahead for them, not just through the loss of Henry (whose leaving, as has been said, may prove to be a blessing in disguise), but also the unsettling departure of David Dein and the probable upcoming departure of Wenger.
There is also a real need to replace Lehmann pretty quickly, he's got a year left in him tops.


We have signed a new Polish keeper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%81ukasz_Fabia%C5%84ski

And it is a fact that Henry never contributed much last season, so to state his departure means the end of Arsenal is, quite frankly, ridiculous.
 
So are your reading and interpretation skills, as I have given many reasons why Arsenal will not be challenging next season IN MY OPINION, not just the deparrture of Henry. Iin fact I even stated that I agreed that his departure could be a blessing in disguise long term.
Sorry for having an opinion, now dismount that horse, it's too high for you.

 
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TheJam wrote:
The manager at Newcastle has never really been the problem, the problem is above him. Although the managers there can take a bit of flak for some poor signings over the years the thing that's held Newcastle back for the last twenty years has been the weight of expectation and the guidance from above.
They have recruited managers well, and everyone who has taken over has been a logical appointment at the time. The problem has been that none has seemed to have performed, despite most being successful elsewhere. It'll take Big Sam more than a year to sort all of that out, especially when he's used to such an amazingly supportive Chairman in Phil Gartside.
 
 
Part of it has been some rotten signings without a clear direction as to how a team is going to be assembled.  Call it weight of expectation but if you sign Albert Luque for 10m because he's a star, trumpet his arrival and then wonder where you play him in a physical league someone isn't doing their homework and thats not all out of the manager's hands.
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My view is that the overall group of players Arsenal have assembled are very exciting and talented.  In a whole Europe context they are a very strong side BUT unfortunately the EPL has three even better sides for 2008 in Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool.  No one has done anything wrong, there are no major flaws but like Team NZ and Alingi there is a small but significant advantage to the other three sides.  Injuries or unexpected crisis could upset any of the top four and change the outcome.
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Not in order but what i think is going to be the end of season table.
 
Top Six:

Man.Utd

Chelsea

Liverpool

Aston Villa

Everton

Arsenal

Middle Six:

Tottenham

Portsmouth

Newcastle

Sunderland

Man.City

Blackburn

Bottom Five:

Fulham

Bolton

Middlesbrough

West Ham

Wigan

Relegation:

Birmingham City

Derby

Reading

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Villa top 6? that is a massive call...i think they'll be pushing for a UEFA spot for sure.


Man City's success depends quite alot on how quickly the takeover happens (if it happens)....



i think M'Boro will be relegated...just. maybe another close shave by Wigan if they're lucky
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villa will get uefa,
 
Liverpool,city and derby to go down
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AVFCvillan wrote:
Not in order but what i think is going to be the end of season table.
 
Top Six:

Man.Utd

Chelsea

Liverpool

Aston Villa

Everton

Arsenal

Middle Six:

Tottenham

Portsmouth

Newcastle

Sunderland

Man.City

Blackburn

Bottom Five:

Fulham

Bolton

Middlesbrough

West Ham

Wigan

Relegation:

Birmingham City

Derby

Reading

 
Looks about right to me though with Trashcan Sinatra being investigated by Thai Police and Don Juan Eriksson in charge City could be for it.
 
Svennis the Pennis is talking 10 new players to make the squad competitive with only a month til kick off.
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