Wow, this thread was well buried.
I see ESPN and Sky have got the rights to the SPL for the next 5 years.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=661288&sec=europe&cc=3888
Could mean we actually get to see a few games. Would be nice.
SCOTTISH FOOTBALL THREAD
cheers for that malky. what are the chances of getting the old firm live here?
Who cares?
Watching Rangers win gets boring after a while 
Only for transmitting games in the UK Setanta Irelnad / International still has the rights for Australasia, so you will still get the games for the next three years if you are subscribed to Setanta in Australia the NZ version being abonded due to lack of subscriptions.
Well, you'll see a few Scots perform every time Burnley take the field! 
Love em.
Love em.
Sorry, thought Setanta had gone belly up.
Only for transmitting games in the UK Setanta Irelnad / International still has the rights for Australasia, so you will still get the games for the next three years if you are subscribed to Setanta in Australia the NZ version being abonded due to lack of subscriptions.
I think it was more of a rights issue rather than a lack of subscriptions. Setanta played the 6 Nations rugby which was supposedly exclusive to the Rugby Channel in NZ but if you had Setanta you could watch them.
Draw for the 3rd qualifying round of Champions League just made, Celtic get Dynamo Moscow. Could be an early trip to Europa League for the Bhoys.
Setanta UK has gone bust Setanta International is still in business, I assume they split up the companies for just this sort of debacle. If you read the press reports the Sky/ESPN bid was for the rights to the UK only.
Setanta UK has gone bust Setanta International is still in business, I assume they split up the companies for just this sort of debacle. If you read the press reports the Sky/ESPN bid was for the rights to the UK only.
It would have been Setanta UK that held the SPL rights though.
Hey Ginger, where do you get your Hib's tops from? They'd make a good item for summer time.
Salvation Army Newtown $2.50
Kiwi Jambo2009-07-30 08:36:20
Setanta UK has gone bust Setanta International is still in business, I assume they split up the companies for just this sort of debacle. If you read the press reports the Sky/ESPN bid was for the rights to the UK only.
It would have been Setanta UK that held the SPL rights though.
Setanta Australia still has the rights to the SPL in Aus. Unfortunately they no longer do subscriptions to NZ.
Celtic lose 1-0 to Dynamo Moscow at home this morning. Tough job for them next week.
Celtic lose 1-0 to Dynamo Moscow at home this morning. Tough job for them next week.
How sad
A shame, but not surprising. Killer draw.
In other Scottish news, Dundee looking good to win Div 1 this year.
A shame, but not surprising. Killer draw.
In other Scottish news, Dundee looking good to win Div 1 this year.
Oh yeah? We'll see about that! 
Jag2009-07-31 17:27:44
A shame, but not surprising. Killer draw.
In other Scottish news, Dundee looking good to win Div 1 this year.
Oh yeah? We'll see about that!
Dinamo Moscow 0-2 Celtic (agg 1-2)finally an away win in europe
That is a great result for the Shelic! But, it does not get any easier for them ...
Victory sees Celtic progress to the final qualifying round of the Champions League, where they could face Arsenal, Atletico Madrid, Lyon, Stuttgart or Fiorentina.
Close, but not quite right.
Seeds: Arsenal, Lyon, Sporting Lisbon, Panathinaikos, Stuttgart.
Non-seeds: Fiorentina, Atletico Madrid, Celtic, Anderlecht, Timisoara.
Seeds: Arsenal, Lyon, Sporting Lisbon, Panathinaikos, Stuttgart.
Non-seeds: Fiorentina, Atletico Madrid, Celtic, Anderlecht, Timisoara.
Poor Jag...
New Thistle strip...
New Thistle strip...
Partick Thistle AWAY strip.!
Don't get me f**king started!
That thing is minging. I thought the pink and grey hoops were bad last year, but they grew on me after a while. This thing is a disgrace. I was literally lost for words when I saw it. Jag2009-08-08 00:24:30
Don't get me f**king started!
That thing is minging. I thought the pink and grey hoops were bad last year, but they grew on me after a while. This thing is a disgrace. I was literally lost for words when I saw it. Jag2009-08-08 00:24:30
HAHA. Celtic VS Arsenal. Awesome
celtic beat that russian side. aberdeen lost 8-1 to some randoms. angst!
CELTIC'S RECORD AGAINST ENGLISH TEAMS IN EUROPE
14 Apr 1966 - Celtic 1 (Lennox), Liverpool 0.
19 Apr 1966 - Liverpool 2 (Smith, Strong), Celtic 0.
1 Apr 1970 - Leeds 0, Celtic 1 (Connelly).
15 Apr 1970 - Celtic 2 (Hughes, Johnstone), Leeds 1 (Bremner).
23 Nov 1983 - Nottingham Forest 0, Celtic 0.
7 Dec 1983 - Celtic 1 (MacLeod), Nottingham Forest 2 (Walsh, Hodge).
16 Sept 1997 - Celtic 2 (McNamara, Donnelly), Liverpool 2 (Owen, McManaman).
30 Sept 1997 - Liverpool 0, Celtic 0.
31 Oct 2002 - Celtic 1 (Larsson), Blackburn 0.
14 Nov 2002 - Blackburn 0, Celtic 2 (Larsson, Sutton).
13 Mar 2003 - Celtic 1 (Larsson), Liverpool 1 (Heskey).
20 Mar 2003 - Liverpool 0, Celtic 2 (Thompson, Hartson).
13 Sept 2006 - Manchester United 3 (Saha 2, Solsjaer), Celtic 2 (Vennegoor of Hesselink, Nakamura).
21 Nov 2006 - Celtic 1 (Nakamura), Man Utd 0.
21 Oct 2008 - Manchester United 3 (Berbatov 2, Rooney), Celtic 0.
5 Nov 2008 - Celtic 1 (McDonald), Manchester United 1 (Giggs).
lol will not be a easy time for arsenal they will have a tough night at parkhead european nights are special there predict a tight couple of games between them
Cheers for posting the record. I was saying tonight that the English forget the Scots clubs are actually good and do pretty well against them. Am worried about the upcoming game as usual, but excited/hopeful.
DINAMO ZAGREB 4-0 HEARTS
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
I watched that this morning. Hearts can count themselves lucky they didn't concede 10. They were absolutely terrible. But I'm not complaining.
CELTIC'S RECORD AGAINST ENGLISH TEAMS IN EUROPE
14 Apr 1966 - Celtic 1 (Lennox), Liverpool 0.
19 Apr 1966 - Liverpool 2 (Smith, Strong), Celtic 0.
1 Apr 1970 - Leeds 0, Celtic 1 (Connelly).
15 Apr 1970 - Celtic 2 (Hughes, Johnstone), Leeds 1 (Bremner).
23 Nov 1983 - Nottingham Forest 0, Celtic 0.
7 Dec 1983 - Celtic 1 (MacLeod), Nottingham Forest 2 (Walsh, Hodge).
16 Sept 1997 - Celtic 2 (McNamara, Donnelly), Liverpool 2 (Owen, McManaman).
30 Sept 1997 - Liverpool 0, Celtic 0.
31 Oct 2002 - Celtic 1 (Larsson), Blackburn 0.
14 Nov 2002 - Blackburn 0, Celtic 2 (Larsson, Sutton).
13 Mar 2003 - Celtic 1 (Larsson), Liverpool 1 (Heskey).
20 Mar 2003 - Liverpool 0, Celtic 2 (Thompson, Hartson).
13 Sept 2006 - Manchester United 3 (Saha 2, Solsjaer), Celtic 2 (Vennegoor of Hesselink, Nakamura).
21 Nov 2006 - Celtic 1 (Nakamura), Man Utd 0.
21 Oct 2008 - Manchester United 3 (Berbatov 2, Rooney), Celtic 0.
5 Nov 2008 - Celtic 1 (McDonald), Manchester United 1 (Giggs).
CELTIC'S RECORD AGAINST ENGLISH TEAMS IN EUROPE
14 Apr 1966 - Celtic 1 (Lennox), Liverpool 0.
19 Apr 1966 - Liverpool 2 (Smith, Strong), Celtic 0.
1 Apr 1970 - Leeds 0, Celtic 1 (Connelly).
15 Apr 1970 - Celtic 2 (Hughes, Johnstone), Leeds 1 (Bremner).
23 Nov 1983 - Nottingham Forest 0, Celtic 0.
7 Dec 1983 - Celtic 1 (MacLeod), Nottingham Forest 2 (Walsh, Hodge).
16 Sept 1997 - Celtic 2 (McNamara, Donnelly), Liverpool 2 (Owen, McManaman).
30 Sept 1997 - Liverpool 0, Celtic 0.
31 Oct 2002 - Celtic 1 (Larsson), Blackburn 0.
14 Nov 2002 - Blackburn 0, Celtic 2 (Larsson, Sutton).
13 Mar 2003 - Celtic 1 (Larsson), Liverpool 1 (Heskey).
20 Mar 2003 - Liverpool 0, Celtic 2 (Thompson, Hartson).
13 Sept 2006 - Manchester United 3 (Saha 2, Solsjaer), Celtic 2 (Vennegoor of Hesselink, Nakamura).
21 Nov 2006 - Celtic 1 (Nakamura), Man Utd 0.
21 Oct 2008 - Manchester United 3 (Berbatov 2, Rooney), Celtic 0.
5 Nov 2008 - Celtic 1 (McDonald), Manchester United 1 (Giggs).
Hearts 1-2 10 man Rangers
HA HA HA HA HA HA
same old rangers always getting help from the ref
Looks like we get to have a go again this season, enjoy Europa...
Was interested to hear Robbie Mustoe say this morning that he he could never remember the gulf between top Scottish and English teams be this big. It was no contest really.
Was interested to hear Robbie Mustoe say this morning that he he could never remember the gulf between top Scottish and English teams be this big. It was no contest really.
Me neither - even up to 2-3 years ago Celtic were beating Man Utd. For some reason, they never looked likely to beat Arsenal tonight, and Arsenal were barely out of first gear.
Still, when the likes of Arsenal are getting about 10 times the TV money, it's easy to see why there's a gulf.
chicken or the egg though. The EPL got the money due to the product it was producing and the demand for it. This was never going to heppen for the SPL.
chicken or the egg though. The EPL got the money due to the product it was producing and the demand for it. This was never going to heppen for the SPL.
The gulf in quality was never that big until Sky Sports stepped in and that is an undisputable fact. In fact, when the English clubs were banned from Europe, Rangers were well ahead of English sides - shown by their hammering of Leeds back in 91-92.
There are obviously more football fans in England, hence more people to subscribe and watch it = more money for EPL. Money started pouring in, better players started to be signed, people around the world tuned in to watch said players, and we are where we are today.
The EPL became the current product because of the money, it was not even close to how it is today before Sky Sports came along. There was always going to be demand for football on TV, because the majority of people in the UK like football!
Thing is it is way more than 10 times, the old firm get about 500,000 punds per year for domestic games and then up to about 1.5 for a EUFA cup run and around 3.5 to 7 million for the Champions lLeague dpending on wether both qulify (the money is split) andif they qulify for the next round. On a good year the Old Firm make about 5 million form TV and on and average year around 2-3 million. Arsenal must make 40 million just for domestic competititon and about the same again from a good CL run.
It speaks volumes that for both Celtic and rangers their gate receipts are by far the biggest revenue stream, how many divisions down the English leagues would you have to go for that to be true, possible the conference?