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paulm
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Were you a ManU fan before that Leggy, or did that experience make you a fan?

Bloody interesting. Would love to hear more about this! I think I asked a couple of years ago and you gave some info, but it's very intriguing.

What position were you? Who were you marking a lot of the time? What was it like in the games against those guys? Did you spend any time yarning with any of them etc?

I saw your name in the lineup there so googled, and I see you have a wikipedia page. Who did you get your 2 NZ goals against? What was that like?

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Good to see MU fans happy to show their love for Rooney this morning. He had a good game.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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paulm wrote:

Were you a ManU fan before that Leggy, or did that experience make you a fan?

Bloody interesting. Would love to hear more about this! I think I asked a couple of years ago and you gave some info, but it's very intriguing.

What position were you? Who were you marking a lot of the time? What was it like in the games against those guys? Did you spend any time yarning with any of them etc?

I saw your name in the lineup there so googled, and I see you have a wikipedia page. Who did you get your 2 NZ goals against? What was that like?

I was a fan 12 years before I played against Utd.

On those two occasions I played wide on the left(left wing) and unfortunately ended up playing against George Best for most of the time.The main thing I noticed was how sharp they were off the mark.I can't remember the name of the hotel in Christchurch but both teams ended up there until the early hours of the morning. 

Spent most of the time  talking to Best and Crerand. Both were getting stuck into the grog but I hardly drank in those days. I've made up for it since.

If I remember, the 2 goals were against Malaysia and Fiji. I did get more than those but they were not full A internationals.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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I found out that Leggy is another form for the word Legend and after reading your last couple of posts, I concur. What a fantastic life you have had.

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so swap out James for a fit Rashford and are we seeing a best XI here? Matic seems to be stepping up a bit. Guna be a big 20 minutes here 

pacy

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Thatd make Manchester red this season wouldn't it?

pacy

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Good win. Another tail of "possession doesn't win football games". Everyone played very well.

People might talk about the free kick we scored from not being a foul, but 10 minutes later Martial and James go 2 on 1 and Fernandinho falls over and the ref gives it... so swings and roundabouts.

Really City lost today because United defended superbly. There was a great moment in the game where AWB tackled Sterling. Both players then went to recover the ball before AWB, realising Sterling was only going to try and beat him again, decided not to bother.

Let's not hold our breath for the media to criticise a really poor team selection by Pep Guardiola.

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20 Legend wrote:

Good win. Another tail of "possession doesn't win football games". Everyone played very well.

People might talk about the free kick we scored from not being a foul, but 10 minutes later Martial and James go 2 on 1 and Fernandinho falls over and the ref gives it... so swings and roundabouts.

Really City lost today because United defended superbly. There was a great moment in the game where AWB tackled Sterling. Both players then went to recover the ball before AWB, realising Sterling was only going to try and beat him again, decided not to bother.

Let's not hold our breath for the media to criticise a really poor team selection by Pep Guardiola.

AWB is a brick wall. Fantastic option to have, completely locks down a side of the pitch almost by himself.

Big thank you to Ederson for the 2 goals, but we really should've had a pen in the first half as well - instead Fred got a yellow! Mike Dean man.

Love watching United when we play like that - unbeaten in 10 with 8 of those being clean sheets. Hopefully the corner is turned - but I'm betting we'll torch Spurs this weekend, waltz past LASK twice and then Norwich will probably take points off us, seems to be the way at the moment.

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20 Legend wrote:

Good win. Another tail of "possession doesn't win football games". Everyone played very well.

People might talk about the free kick we scored from not being a foul, but 10 minutes later Martial and James go 2 on 1 and Fernandinho falls over and the ref gives it... so swings and roundabouts.

Really City lost today because United defended superbly. There was a great moment in the game where AWB tackled Sterling. Both players then went to recover the ball before AWB, realising Sterling was only going to try and beat him again, decided not to bother.

Let's not hold our breath for the media to criticise a really poor team selection by Pep Guardiola.

Feel a switch has been flicked in the united camp since we were punched up by Burnley at home in January. Those were becoming desperate times. Six weeks later and what a difference - Played 10, Won 7, Drawn 3 and Lost 0. Some will say 'oh well you beat Tranmere and Derby and Watford' - well it's important to note we've beat City x 2, Chelsea, and Watford Twitted Liverpool just a week after we beat them at home... 

Whats been most impressive for me though, is we've conceded twice, just twice in this stretch. A far cry from early in the season when we were giving up loose/soft goals from poor play, hardly what you want to see when over £100m has been invested in defence in the off season. It just feels like it's coming together nicely. Obviously not where we want to be just yet, but am feeling more and more confident by the week. 

Fernandes has been a revelation too, I actually don't see how Pogba forces his way back into this lineup at present, although Euro's are around the corner so presumably he might want some match fitness before the end of the season? Maybe seeing Fernandes controlling midfield play might actually motivate him to stay, play and drive us forward too...

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Pogba situation is very interesting. If Pogba's goal is to become the best player on earth, then Manchester United is almost setup for him to do it. Just need to sort the attitude (which means stop playing games through his agent!)

Full credit to Fred. I wrote him off but he has started adding some forward output into his play and he's becoming a very good player. What's really interesting is that for the first time in a LONG time you can argue than Bruno and Fred would have started in City's midfield. I think that's a really interesting shift in mood for United.

Echoing what you're saying about the defence YoungHeart, under the pump at the end of the game and it didn't feel like we were going to concede.

Lots to do but the building blocks are there. There's probably another rough patch around the corner, but Ole's direction is paying off. If we can reenforce with another couple of "Ole" players in the summer we're in a fantastic place.

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I am really glad that most of the Ole out crew are getting drowned out now and are having to change their tune. Even heard one say that he didn't know anyone who was Ole in from the beginning. How narrow minded. 

We get past Spurs this coming weekend and of the remaining 8 games, all apart from Leicester (away, last game) and Sheffield United (home, tbd) are in the top half. Given our struggles against the weaker teams, results during those games will really show if United have turned a corner or not. Bruno and maybe a fit Pogba will help our cause. 

I am intrigued as to if Pogba will be convinced to stay on at United if we were to keep a good run of form through to the end of the season and plays well with Bruno. Real Madrid will come strong in the summer given that Kroos and Modric are past their best and Zidane will have him as the number one target. 

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Important game tomorrow morning against another team in the running for those 3rd-7th positions. Hopefully a Pogba - Bruno partnership from the start will put enough pressure on the Sheffield team to open some cracks in their impressive structure. 

A win will heap pressure on Chelsea who play City on Friday morning, so we need the 3 points tomorrow. 

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Bit defensively all over the show this morning against Bournemouth, especially at the start of this 2nd half but jesus christ she's been a barn-burner, what a shame the ground isn't full because the attacking play has been cracking!

Mason Greenwood - my word, 18 years old, what a special player this kid is going to be. Left foot/Right foot, trickery, speed and an eye for goal, tantalising prospect to watch over the next couple of years in this setup. OGS clearly has given the kid a lot of guidance and now with the quality and confidence around him he's just flourishing.

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Bournemouth showed the other way to try to go up against this United team at the moment is to play with 2 up top and isolate the CBs. It was actually a pleasant difference as recent opponents have simply tried the low block. 

The difference now is that we have an attack that is in such good form that they know they can outscore the opponent. 

Martial and Rashford look so comfortable switching between LW and CF, probably because Greenwood is doing such a good job on the other side. And the midfield looks solid. 

More praise for Ole, as he has managed Greenwood's introduction so well.

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The main issue at the start of Ole's tenure (and an issue that LvG and Mourinho never solved) was how to consistently beat the bottom teams - we've consistently outperformed the Top 4 when we've played them, but dropped sharkty points to sharkty teams. Given we dropped points already to Bournemouth, a dominant showing was much needed and I think indicates that our starting XI, at least, is now able to consistently break down small teams parking the bus. The movement of the front 3 is fantastic, as are the constant runs in between CBs and fullbacks when we're in a "half-field" attack to create space at the edge of the box for midfielders.

Our run in is Villa, Southampton, Palace, West Ham and Leicester. We dropped points to all of those in the first half, except the Top 4 side. Those next 4 games are gonna tell us a lot about how we perform against teams who line up defensively when we have our best XI available.

I don't think we'll see too many teams try to replicate the way Bournemouth defended and I don't think it would be smart of they did. They got 2 jammy goals (pen shouldn't have been given imo, for me that hits his shoulder and that nutmeg comes off 10% of the time) and looked very vulnerable every time we went forward. If teams continue to adopt that approach, I think we'll find it easier than teams who play defensively.

Can't wait to see what Greenwood becomes, teams are going to have to commit more than 1 defender whenever he gets to the edge of the area and that creates a lot of space for other dangerous players.

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Things are looking up eh. That Fernandes looks a hell of a player, and Greenwood has been good to watch. 

Hell even Pogba back in the team and not creating any stirs. 

Ole deserves major credit.

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In the past, teams have been able to do "low-block" because our midfield never offered any danger from outside the box. Chuck in Bruno and Pogba who, if you don't pressure them, are going to either make something or score. This opens up space for everyone else and boom, suddenly we're winning games.

Ole deserves massive credit. His signings have all been perfect, not only their football capabilities but their attitude as well. I love it.

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20 Legend wrote:

In the past, teams have been able to do "low-block" because our midfield never offered any danger from outside the box. Chuck in Bruno and Pogba who, if you don't pressure them, are going to either make something or score. This opens up space for everyone else and boom, suddenly we're winning games.

Ole deserves massive credit. His signings have all been perfect, not only their football capabilities but their attitude as well. I love it.

Still too soon to know if Ole is actually good enough. He does have players that are good enough for the starting X1 but he obviously could not see that against Norwich as the starting team he picked was crap. Time will tell, but he will need 2/3 quality players to even get close next season. The teams we have beaten  lately are going to get relegated

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Leggy wrote:

20 Legend wrote:

In the past, teams have been able to do "low-block" because our midfield never offered any danger from outside the box. Chuck in Bruno and Pogba who, if you don't pressure them, are going to either make something or score. This opens up space for everyone else and boom, suddenly we're winning games.

Ole deserves massive credit. His signings have all been perfect, not only their football capabilities but their attitude as well. I love it.

Still too soon to know if Ole is actually good enough. He does have players that are good enough for the starting X1 but he obviously could not see that against Norwich as the starting team he picked was crap. Time will tell, but he will need 2/3 quality players to even get close next season. The teams we have beaten  lately are going to get relegated

As Nelfoos has said, our problem this season has been losing to those bottom of the table teams. Weneed extra investment or else Liverpool to fall a long way to challenge for the league but we are looking in a very good position. One player (Bruno) has made such a huge difference. One more player (Sancho) could make a big difference too. Having said that, I would really like a starting defender to replace Lindelof.

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