WeeNix - ISPS Handa Premiership

martyyn
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ClubOranje wrote:

I'm interested in what makes you think their opposition had "nothing to play for"... as in, enough to suggest that's why they lost, in particular HBU who genuinely seemed upset at losing to a bunch of kids to the point they had three people sent off.

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Yep, thought as much. 

Young talents improving all the time, others have long since found their level.

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise you needed the concept of "nothing to play for" to be explained to you.

It's when a team is comfortably mid-table at the end of the season. A win won't see them go up and a loss won't see them go drop places. Add in Hawkes Bay's leading scorer had already left, as had other players doing the season, then you maybe understand the game was meaningless for them.

But, whatever.

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Here we go again with the Ole Puppets. Wests ( The Ole  Puppet Club) would be in The League if Ole had not upset NZ Football over a long period.

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WeeNix Thread: Remember when evaluating or comparing the Weenix to other teams, they are allowed entry to the competition by the other teams and NZF  under very tight restrictions so they can not unduly influence the competition.  

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Blew.2 wrote:

WeeNix Thread: Remember when evaluating or comparing the Weenix to other teams, they are allowed entry to the competition by the other teams and NZF  under very tight restrictions so they can not unduly influence the competition.  

that just means they are restricted on how many first teamers they can drop

you could argue that by the end of most seasons when they end up playing alot more youth they are unduly influencing the comp

they always seem to have the full set of pros wen they play TW or ACFC, not so much against Tasman or Southern

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Blew.2 wrote:

WeeNix Thread: Remember when evaluating or comparing the Weenix to other teams, they are allowed entry to the competition by the other teams and NZF  under very tight restrictions so they can not unduly influence the competition.  

that just means they are restricted on how many first teamers Phoenix Contracted players they can Play

you could argue that by the end of most seasons when they end up playing alot more youth they are unduly influencing the comp

they always seem to have the full set of pros wen they play TW or ACFC, not so much against Tasman or Southern

Fixed - also Phoenix Contracted players as in HAL contracts IIRC

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ClubOranje
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martyyn wrote:

ClubOranje wrote:

I'm interested in what makes you think their opposition had "nothing to play for"... as in, enough to suggest that's why they lost, in particular HBU who genuinely seemed upset at losing to a bunch of kids to the point they had three people sent off.

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Yep, thought as much. 

Young talents improving all the time, others have long since found their level.

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise you needed the concept of "nothing to play for" to be explained to you.

It's when a team is comfortably mid-table at the end of the season. A win won't see them go up and a loss won't see them go drop places. Add in Hawkes Bay's leading scorer had already left, as had other players doing the season, then you maybe understand the game was meaningless for them.

But, whatever.

As opposed to the Weenix, where a win wasn't going to see them go up a place, a loss wasn't going to see them go down a place (and in fact both those parameters existed for several games) and their leading goal scorer had already left as had other players during the season. Oh, that sounds eerily familiar. 

So yes, go on, explain it again because it just sounds like excuses to me.

While you are at it, explain how when teams apparently have 'nothing to play for' but one of those teams gets consistently better results, that team is not seen as improving. 

ClubOranje
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Blew.2 wrote:

WeeNix Thread: Remember when evaluating or comparing the Weenix to other teams, they are allowed entry to the competition by the other teams and NZF  under very tight restrictions so they can not unduly influence the competition.  

that just means they are restricted on how many first teamers they can drop

you could argue that by the end of most seasons when they end up playing alot more youth they are unduly influencing the comp

they always seem to have the full set of pros wen they play TW or ACFC, not so much against Tasman or Southern

Perception. Last time out against TW was: Jones, Mogg, Curry, Wynne, Smith, Sutton, Stensness, Elliot, Ebbinge, Kumsuz and Waine, none of which had an a-league minute to their name at the time. 

That said, the 'more youth' playing second half of the season picked up more results than any lineup before Christmas, so while you could argue they are influencing the comp, I'm not convinced it's 'unduly' as developing footballers is the whole rationale isn't it?

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