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Yeovil wrote:

Curious neutral: Excuse me club, why don't you get some tech minded, social media savvy, trust worthy person with some spare time to do Social Media for your club and live stream games and pay with them with some spare cash?

Club: We decided to me more realistic and asked Santa for someone to come along and help clean up after club functions and at the end of the year; and if we had been particularly good for some large benefactor to come along and alleviate the cash flow struggles. Unfortunately all we got were a load of mini-balls and some drink bottles for the Juniors from Maccas via NZ Football. Sigh...

Feel free to pitch in, we'd love a hand!!!

While I agree that social media has its place as an easy means to get information out but surely streaming games could mean supporters will not come and watch games live so in the long run will this be good for the games, clubs etc.

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Yeovil wrote:

Curious neutral: Excuse me club, why don't you get some tech minded, social media savvy, trust worthy person with some spare time to do Social Media for your club and live stream games and pay with them with some spare cash?

Club: We decided to me more realistic and asked Santa for someone to come along and help clean up after club functions and at the end of the year; and if we had been particularly good for some large benefactor to come along and alleviate the cash flow struggles. Unfortunately all we got were a load of mini-balls and some drink bottles for the Juniors from Maccas via NZ Football. Sigh...

Feel free to pitch in, we'd love a hand!!!

Plenty of negative views on this point it seems, but i'm happy to be part of the minority. Pretty much all clubs film their games anyway, and most clubs have social media pages, so what's the issue? The foundations seem to be there. And don't give me that rubbish about having no money, everyone knows premier men's coaches are paid for their time, and some clubs pay players too. Exposure is good for the whole club, excessive payments to players/coaches are only good for that individual.

This was just an idea floated out there, as i'm sure many have done before. I start to think it is no surprise that nobody has tried to solve this issue or at the very least get creative, as almost everyone who has replied to me has just put it in the 'too hard' basket. 

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Plenty of people have tried to do this. You're right in saying you aren't the first to have the idea. Its in the "too hard" basket for good reason at this point, clubs have limited funds and, as you say, they spend them in other areas. The ROI on streaming for most local clubs is not going to be good, the money is far better spent elsewhere.

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AllWhites82 wrote:

Yeovil wrote:

Curious neutral: Excuse me club, why don't you get some tech minded, social media savvy, trust worthy person with some spare time to do Social Media for your club and live stream games and pay with them with some spare cash?

Club: We decided to me more realistic and asked Santa for someone to come along and help clean up after club functions and at the end of the year; and if we had been particularly good for some large benefactor to come along and alleviate the cash flow struggles. Unfortunately all we got were a load of mini-balls and some drink bottles for the Juniors from Maccas via NZ Football. Sigh...

Feel free to pitch in, we'd love a hand!!!

While I agree that social media has its place as an easy means to get information out but surely streaming games could mean supporters will not come and watch games live so in the long run will this be good for the games, clubs etc.

I think it offers opportunities for former players/fans/families of players etc. in different parts of NZ/the world to watch, and I think that is a positive. I also think that it will allow coaches to better tailor training sessions in anticipation of playing certain teams. This 1) improves coaches abilities to process different styles of football and come up with ways to prepare for certain games; and 2) lets players reflect on their individual performances, which will let them take responsibility for their performances going forward. 

On the whole, I think this will raise the standard of quality of football - it's not just skill based, it's tactical and mental endurance, and this makes it more professional. If a few choose to stay at home, then so be it - but nothing beats a live game of football on a saturday afternoon!

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Plenty of people have tried to do this. You're right in saying you aren't the first to have the idea. Its in the "too hard" basket for good reason at this point, clubs have limited funds and, as you say, they spend them in other areas. The ROI on streaming for most local clubs is not going to be good, the money is far better spent elsewhere.

Okay, well don't stream. But upload the game footage (which will be filmed) onto social media for people to watch post game. That isn't too difficult, is it?

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IMO the best is highlights uploaded with an option to watch the whole match. Nice little 10-20 second clips of goals, saves, misses and written commentary on them

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Yeovil wrote:

Curious neutral: Excuse me club, why don't you get some tech minded, social media savvy, trust worthy person with some spare time to do Social Media for your club and live stream games and pay with them with some spare cash?

Club: We decided to me more realistic and asked Santa for someone to come along and help clean up after club functions and at the end of the year; and if we had been particularly good for some large benefactor to come along and alleviate the cash flow struggles. Unfortunately all we got were a load of mini-balls and some drink bottles for the Juniors from Maccas via NZ Football. Sigh...

Feel free to pitch in, we'd love a hand!!!

Plenty of negative views on this point it seems, but i'm happy to be part of the minority. Pretty much all clubs film their games anyway, and most clubs have social media pages, so what's the issue? The foundations seem to be there. And don't give me that rubbish about having no money, everyone knows premier men's coaches are paid for their time, and some clubs pay players too. Exposure is good for the whole club, excessive payments to players/coaches are only good for that individual.

This was just an idea floated out there, as i'm sure many have done before. I start to think it is no surprise that nobody has tried to solve this issue or at the very least get creative, as almost everyone who has replied to me has just put it in the 'too hard' basket. 

Floating an idea is all well and good but it’s as useful as talent without application.

One of the toughest challenges clubs face is finding enough volunteers to give up their tine, there are far more good ideas floated than there are people willing to get off their arse and put it into practice. The other one is not enough money.

The closest thing to  negativity I see is you having a pop at clubs and I feel the people who give up their time deserve to be defended. Paying coaches/players in some cases maybe valid and whilst i personally don’t believe players should be paid at this level, it is the choice of those that are give up their time and  raise the money. I’d also be very surprised if every coach in Dunedin got paid.

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Yeovil wrote:

Yeovil wrote:

Curious neutral: Excuse me club, why don't you get some tech minded, social media savvy, trust worthy person with some spare time to do Social Media for your club and live stream games and pay with them with some spare cash?

Club: We decided to me more realistic and asked Santa for someone to come along and help clean up after club functions and at the end of the year; and if we had been particularly good for some large benefactor to come along and alleviate the cash flow struggles. Unfortunately all we got were a load of mini-balls and some drink bottles for the Juniors from Maccas via NZ Football. Sigh...

Feel free to pitch in, we'd love a hand!!!

Plenty of negative views on this point it seems, but i'm happy to be part of the minority. Pretty much all clubs film their games anyway, and most clubs have social media pages, so what's the issue? The foundations seem to be there. And don't give me that rubbish about having no money, everyone knows premier men's coaches are paid for their time, and some clubs pay players too. Exposure is good for the whole club, excessive payments to players/coaches are only good for that individual.

This was just an idea floated out there, as i'm sure many have done before. I start to think it is no surprise that nobody has tried to solve this issue or at the very least get creative, as almost everyone who has replied to me has just put it in the 'too hard' basket. 

Floating an idea is all well and good but it’s as useful as talent without application.

One of the toughest challenges clubs face is finding enough volunteers to give up their tine, there are far more good ideas floated than there are people willing to get off their arse and put it into practice. The other one is not enough money.

The closest thing to  negativity I see is you having a pop at clubs and I feel the people who give up their time deserve to be defended. Paying coaches/players in some cases maybe valid and whilst i personally don’t believe players should be paid at this level, it is the choice of those that are give up their time and  raise the money. I’d also be very surprised if every coach in Dunedin got paid.

Who wouldn’t expect to get paid as coach

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Noel 76' wrote:

Yeovil wrote:

Yeovil wrote:

Curious neutral: Excuse me club, why don't you get some tech minded, social media savvy, trust worthy person with some spare time to do Social Media for your club and live stream games and pay with them with some spare cash?

Club: We decided to me more realistic and asked Santa for someone to come along and help clean up after club functions and at the end of the year; and if we had been particularly good for some large benefactor to come along and alleviate the cash flow struggles. Unfortunately all we got were a load of mini-balls and some drink bottles for the Juniors from Maccas via NZ Football. Sigh...

Feel free to pitch in, we'd love a hand!!!

Plenty of negative views on this point it seems, but i'm happy to be part of the minority. Pretty much all clubs film their games anyway, and most clubs have social media pages, so what's the issue? The foundations seem to be there. And don't give me that rubbish about having no money, everyone knows premier men's coaches are paid for their time, and some clubs pay players too. Exposure is good for the whole club, excessive payments to players/coaches are only good for that individual.

This was just an idea floated out there, as i'm sure many have done before. I start to think it is no surprise that nobody has tried to solve this issue or at the very least get creative, as almost everyone who has replied to me has just put it in the 'too hard' basket. 

Floating an idea is all well and good but it’s as useful as talent without application.

One of the toughest challenges clubs face is finding enough volunteers to give up their tine, there are far more good ideas floated than there are people willing to get off their arse and put it into practice. The other one is not enough money.

The closest thing to  negativity I see is you having a pop at clubs and I feel the people who give up their time deserve to be defended. Paying coaches/players in some cases maybe valid and whilst i personally don’t believe players should be paid at this level, it is the choice of those that are give up their time and  raise the money. I’d also be very surprised if every coach in Dunedin got paid.

Who wouldn’t expect to get paid as coach

It's not so much expecting to get paid, I just think at any given time there will be a couple of coaches around the league who do it for the love. Especially if they've been at a club for a while or have an understanding of what club finances are like. I am only guessing and could well be wrong.

I'd stress that I would expect the majority would be getting something.

I also think that having a the best coaching staff you can get is a major priority for any club, and if you can afford it, it is money well spent.

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Yeovil wrote:

Noel 76' wrote:

Yeovil wrote:

Yeovil wrote:

Curious neutral: Excuse me club, why don't you get some tech minded, social media savvy, trust worthy person with some spare time to do Social Media for your club and live stream games and pay with them with some spare cash?

Club: We decided to me more realistic and asked Santa for someone to come along and help clean up after club functions and at the end of the year; and if we had been particularly good for some large benefactor to come along and alleviate the cash flow struggles. Unfortunately all we got were a load of mini-balls and some drink bottles for the Juniors from Maccas via NZ Football. Sigh...

Feel free to pitch in, we'd love a hand!!!

Plenty of negative views on this point it seems, but i'm happy to be part of the minority. Pretty much all clubs film their games anyway, and most clubs have social media pages, so what's the issue? The foundations seem to be there. And don't give me that rubbish about having no money, everyone knows premier men's coaches are paid for their time, and some clubs pay players too. Exposure is good for the whole club, excessive payments to players/coaches are only good for that individual.

This was just an idea floated out there, as i'm sure many have done before. I start to think it is no surprise that nobody has tried to solve this issue or at the very least get creative, as almost everyone who has replied to me has just put it in the 'too hard' basket. 

Floating an idea is all well and good but it’s as useful as talent without application.

One of the toughest challenges clubs face is finding enough volunteers to give up their tine, there are far more good ideas floated than there are people willing to get off their arse and put it into practice. The other one is not enough money.

The closest thing to  negativity I see is you having a pop at clubs and I feel the people who give up their time deserve to be defended. Paying coaches/players in some cases maybe valid and whilst i personally don’t believe players should be paid at this level, it is the choice of those that are give up their time and  raise the money. I’d also be very surprised if every coach in Dunedin got paid.

Who wouldn’t expect to get paid as coach

It's not so much expecting to get paid, I just think at any given time there will be a couple of coaches around the league who do it for the love. Especially if they've been at a club for a while or have an understanding of what club finances are like. I am only guessing and could well be wrong.

I'd stress that I would expect the majority would be getting something.

I also think that having a the best coaching staff you can get is a major priority for any club, and if you can afford it, it is money well spent.

Poor wording, which coaches would you think aren’t paid.

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Noel 76' wrote:

Yeovil wrote:

Noel 76' wrote:

Yeovil wrote:

Yeovil wrote:

Curious neutral: Excuse me club, why don't you get some tech minded, social media savvy, trust worthy person with some spare time to do Social Media for your club and live stream games and pay with them with some spare cash?

Club: We decided to me more realistic and asked Santa for someone to come along and help clean up after club functions and at the end of the year; and if we had been particularly good for some large benefactor to come along and alleviate the cash flow struggles. Unfortunately all we got were a load of mini-balls and some drink bottles for the Juniors from Maccas via NZ Football. Sigh...

Feel free to pitch in, we'd love a hand!!!

Plenty of negative views on this point it seems, but i'm happy to be part of the minority. Pretty much all clubs film their games anyway, and most clubs have social media pages, so what's the issue? The foundations seem to be there. And don't give me that rubbish about having no money, everyone knows premier men's coaches are paid for their time, and some clubs pay players too. Exposure is good for the whole club, excessive payments to players/coaches are only good for that individual.

This was just an idea floated out there, as i'm sure many have done before. I start to think it is no surprise that nobody has tried to solve this issue or at the very least get creative, as almost everyone who has replied to me has just put it in the 'too hard' basket. 

Floating an idea is all well and good but it’s as useful as talent without application.

One of the toughest challenges clubs face is finding enough volunteers to give up their tine, there are far more good ideas floated than there are people willing to get off their arse and put it into practice. The other one is not enough money.

The closest thing to  negativity I see is you having a pop at clubs and I feel the people who give up their time deserve to be defended. Paying coaches/players in some cases maybe valid and whilst i personally don’t believe players should be paid at this level, it is the choice of those that are give up their time and  raise the money. I’d also be very surprised if every coach in Dunedin got paid.

Who wouldn’t expect to get paid as coach

It's not so much expecting to get paid, I just think at any given time there will be a couple of coaches around the league who do it for the love. Especially if they've been at a club for a while or have an understanding of what club finances are like. I am only guessing and could well be wrong.

I'd stress that I would expect the majority would be getting something.

I also think that having a the best coaching staff you can get is a major priority for any club, and if you can afford it, it is money well spent.

Poor wording, which coaches would you think aren’t paid.

Happy to simplify.

I think that, in general there will probably be one or two coaches in the Southern League who are prepared to coach for free.

As for who would be coaching for free at the moment, I don’t have an intimate knowledge of coaching payments throughout the league, so any guess would be based on rumours.

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Reckon Varsity's total football will be too hot for Mosgiel on Sunday, thoughts FSobservation?

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Yeovil wrote:

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Happy to simplify.

I think that, in general there will probably be one or two coaches in the Southern League who are prepared to coach for free.

As for who would be coaching for free at the moment, I don’t have an intimate knowledge of coaching payments throughout the league, so any guess would be based on rumours.

in all honesty WOW, I would be very surprised if there was any coach that was working for nothing!

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trauts wrote:

Reckon Varsity's total football will be too hot for Mosgiel on Sunday, thoughts FSobservation?

It's a do or die clash for both sides, so Mosgiel can't really sit back like they did in the first game. Varsity's own worst enemy is themselves, so I think if they keep their transition mistakes to a minimum, Mosgiel will struggle to get involved in the game. I don't know if Cody Brook is back playing, but I would pin him as the difference maker. If he plays, I would possibly edge Mosgiel. Without him, I can see Varsity's midfield 3 overpowering the game.

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Here is our preview of the Southern Football League game (and our other fixtures) http://bit.ly/32n5URm.

We will be live via Facebook from 12:20pm tomorrow for the game.

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Will Varsity be able to play the "total football" without Oban FSobservation?

Surely they can beat the young kids of Nomads?

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trauts wrote:

Will Varsity be able to play the "total football" without Oban FSobservation?

Surely they can beat the young kids of Nomads?

I wouldn’t be taking the young Nomads so lightly. They did finish 3rd in the MPL just behind Nelson. Handy side and will be even tougher now the game has been moved to the turf. I’m picking a Nomads win by a couple of goals. 

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Delta wrote:

trauts wrote:

Will Varsity be able to play the "total football" without Oban FSobservation?

Surely they can beat the young kids of Nomads?

I wouldn’t be taking the young Nomads so lightly. They did finish 3rd in the MPL just behind Nelson. Handy side and will be even tougher now the game has been moved to the turf. I’m picking a Nomads win by a couple of goals. 

1 goal out. 

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Who's going to win the Championship?

And who thinks Cavy will beat Bay Olympic?

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Wonder what Stu @FSobservation has to say about conceding a mountain of goals in the past 2 games , surley this cant be part of the total football plan. 

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