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The JourneyFan
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Paul Riley has resigned

http://thejourneyfan.blogspot.co.nz/

New Zealand Football Media Association Website of the year 2015 & 2016

Randeep29
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so has Paul O'Reilly

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https://www.pitchero.com/clubs/southernunitedfootballclub/news/head-coach-paul-oreilly-to-step-down-from-his-role-at-southern-united-and-football-south-2508873.html

ZG
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Typical agenda driven football. 

There’s a few home truths that need to be learnt, some people still believe the franchise was in a better position before Paul’s arrival. Finishing last with two points over two years and starting a give a little page to keep it going was the preference to an academy and increasingly better finishes on the table. 

Personally I think this is an absolute shame. Paul and his team have done nothing but push and give since arriving against blatant cronyism and a status quo. A few people got their nose out of joint as a result of change, but the changes were needed.


still awaiting the positive feedback about using locals.

Tekkers
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ZG wrote:

Typical agenda driven football. 

There’s a few home truths that need to be learnt, some people still believe the franchise was in a better position before Paul’s arrival. Finishing last with two points over two years and starting a give a little page to keep it going was the preference to an academy and increasingly better finishes on the table. 

Personally I think this is an absolute shame. Paul and his team have done nothing but push and give since arriving against blatant cronyism and a status quo. A few people got their nose out of joint as a result of change, but the changes were needed.


still awaiting the positive feedback about using locals.

I want to thank Paul for his work and efforts over the past 5 years, I just wish Football South was able to give him and the other knowledgable and committed people a platform to improve most aspects of football in the region, not just at the elite levels. The academies and elite teams have certainly improved but cant say the same about much else. 

The franchise has improved, but I am not so sure about the federation. 

I think the improvements that have been made at the youth and development levels have been offset against the deterioration of the senior leagues and the overall football player base. Everything still seems disorganised and while acknowledging the improvement of the Southern team, the national league going back to club based means it has almost come to nothing. 

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FS administration from the Board and the CEO needs to be looked at, too many pet projects and not enough accountability. How many people on the FS board, 100s, what are their roles. what one is the one that is accountable for grass roots development or something? If what Paul is saying is true why isn't their a plan in place locally regardless of what happening nationally?

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Wish Paul and his family all the best.

Sadly there has been a distinct separation of SU/FS and the local football. 

It was great how it all started, FS did an awesome job to gain funding and resources to bring it all together. I was seriously impressed.

I felt the "The hearts and minds" were not won. It seemed that the cronyism was with "SU" especially with the isolation of local football. 

The many imports, were given FDO and other jobs but chose not to play locally. There seemed to be no FDO Development or interaction with the clubs or grass roots football. Maybe wrong but it did seem that all coaching was through the fee paying academies or holiday programs. 

In hindsight FS could have been stronger and set its expectations higher. Even if Paul is fundamentally right it has been one of the best resourced SU teams. 

Cynically it was expected that this would be the last year as FS reserves are probably all now spent.

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alternative view would be the standard of local football was trash and someone had to raise the bar which meant that clubs didn't have as many players sinking beers in their clubrooms and then turning out for the top regional team. local football clubs all talk a good game but have no interest in anything but themself. clubs only want things on their terms like how many club coaches hold any sort of qualification that would allow them to coach a national league team of some sort.

FS have an office full of people not just the FDOs - what do they do what does the futsal guy do when theres no futsal comp on. clubs like mine think they are better than FS I think they do what they want most the time and we even had SU playing at our ground the other season but the club didn't even tell us through facebook or newsletters or anything.

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also SU have a lot of sponsors on the website so they can't be too hard up for cash unless of course there are a heap of paid staff involved. what on earth is a player liaison anyway that was a new one to me when I read the article I think I know the person mentioned in the article and if its who I think it is he's thought he owned sunnyvale last season

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Randeep29 wrote:

also SU have a lot of sponsors on the website so they can't be too hard up for cash unless of course there are a heap of paid staff involved. what on earth is a player liaison anyway that was a new one to me when I read the article I think I know the person mentioned in the article and if its who I think it is he's thought he owned sunnyvale last season

I don't think lots of sponsors equals lots of money in this case. 

I'm sure there's a breakdown of the yearly expenses/income for SU from last season somewhere too if you want to hunt it out and have a look at exact numbers though.

Nelfoos
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Southern United are an incorporated society, and therefore file their finacials on the Incorporated Societies Register.

Had a quick look - for the year to 30 June 18 (most recent accounts uploaded, but June 19 is clearly late) Sponsorship revenue of ~$20k, total revenue of ~$130k and a loss for the period of $130k also.

Not the healthiest set of books I've looked at today, and its not even 8.30am.

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*GULP*


how in the world can that be sustainable is someone cooking the books somehow and can we see what fooball south are doing too. Has to be a big concern you think how can you even have a club with that sort of loss

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Randeep29 wrote:

*GULP*


how in the world can that be sustainable is someone cooking the books somehow and can we see what fooball south are doing too. Has to be a big concern you think how can you even have a club with that sort of loss

Its not sustainable. Their equity was negative in 2018 and I hate to think what 2019 looks like. If they aren't getting Capital injections from somewhere then Southern United as an entity can't exist for long (but there have been 20 months since these results, so something could change)

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what are our predictions for the southern premier league this season....? Northen top 4...?

ZG
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Northern to do the League + Chatham Cup double.

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Roslyn playing home games on Friday nights at the turf will be an issue for cavy, heard Richard Murray’s afraid of the dark.

Tekkers
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When can we realistically a draw for the Southern season? 

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Tekkers wrote:

When can we realistically a draw for the Southern season? 

And just like that, there is one in the Dunedin Star today. Nice
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Tekkers wrote:

Tekkers wrote:

When can we realistically a draw for the Southern season? 

And just like that, there is one in the Dunedin Star today. Nice

Do you have a link please?

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AllWhites82 wrote:

Tekkers wrote:

Tekkers wrote:

When can we realistically a draw for the Southern season? 

And just like that, there is one in the Dunedin Star today. Nice

Do you have a link please?

Now on the FS website

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