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New Zealand Football is pleased to announce funding partner, ISPS Handa, will sponsor the ISPS Handa Premiership for the next three years, with the representation of the Right Honourable former Prime Minister John Key as ISPS Handa Patron and International Ambassador.

Article hear:

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Aka 'The handy'...
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Nice article, I wonder what they will actually bring to the competition in terms of $, potential tv/streaming coverage etc...

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What a fudgeing knob

Listen here Fudgeface
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We already have a thread for the general Premiership chat - do you want this thread to be about ISPS's sponsorship in particular or should I merge it with the other thread?

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My vote is for merge.

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yes, the competition is just one, no matter who the sponsor is

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patrick478 wrote:

We already have a thread for the general Premiership chat - do you want this thread to be about ISPS's sponsorship in particular or should I merge it with the other thread?

Merge but have the new name.
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So, according to the rankings the Handa Premiership is the second best league in Oceania after Tahiti.

https://iffhs.de/the-strongest-national-league-of-...

Seems odd to me considering the NZ teams have won the champions league every year this decade and have been the runners up as well for most of them.

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Ryan wrote:

So, according to the rankings the Handa Premiership is the second best league in Oceania after Tahiti.

https://iffhs.de/the-strongest-national-league-of-...

Seems odd to me considering the NZ teams have won the champions league every year this decade and have been the runners up as well for most of them.

About as reliable as the FIFA rankings, but explanation is here https://iffhs.de/explanations-cwr/

"This ranking does not give bonuses for exceeding a round or winning a competition. Each competition has its own value, according to the IFFHS rules, fixed by the IFFHS Executive Committee."

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It's obvious that the list is crap, in fact if you believe this Ljujic is slumming it down in the A-League at 75 when he was in the A Lyga at 54. 

Also, Portugal ranked below Greece, Cyprus, and Israely leagues. USA equal with Lithuania, etc.

Actually, the list is mad.

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Yakcall wrote:

Ryan wrote:

So, according to the rankings the Handa Premiership is the second best league in Oceania after Tahiti.

https://iffhs.de/the-strongest-national-league-of-...

Seems odd to me considering the NZ teams have won the champions league every year this decade and have been the runners up as well for most of them.

About as reliable as the FIFA rankings, but explanation is here https://iffhs.de/explanations-cwr/

"This ranking does not give bonuses for exceeding a round or winning a competition. Each competition has its own value, according to the IFFHS rules, fixed by the IFFHS Executive Committee."

so effectively because the ISPS teams don't play in the Chatham Cup NZ loses points and Tahiti gets named the top league!

Given the OCL final has been between 2 NZ teams for the last 3 years shows how good these rankings are

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Ryan wrote:

So, according to the rankings the Handa Premiership is the second best league in Oceania after Tahiti.

https://iffhs.de/the-strongest-national-league-of-...

Seems odd to me considering the NZ teams have won the champions league every year this decade and have been the runners up as well for most of them.

Yes it is odd, agree, that ranking is rubbish, just as the FIFA country ranking as mentioned above.

Speaking of FIFA ranking (sorry, slightly off topic, but just an idea) - it would be interesting to use our combined knowledge of the football on different continents to try and find the actual/realistic ranking of New Zealand and ignore the FIFA nonsense. Obviously, people would have different opinions on the matter, but still could be fun. 

For example, I doubt NZ could be ranked above any of the South American countries, but clearly NZ would be better than quite a few smaller European countries etc...

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That league ranking list is one of the worst things I have ever seen associated with football.

There is absolutely no chance in hell that the Colombian league is stronger than the Bundesliga. In fact apart from the top 2 the list is just a complete mess and an absolute nonsense throughout. 

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How do you define strongest? Best team? Financial sustainability? System of promotion/relegation? Performance in the federation champions league?

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zonknz wrote:

How do you define strongest? Best team? Financial sustainability? System of promotion/relegation? Performance in the federation champions league?

Put all the leagues on pieces of paper and draw them out of a hat, apparently

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mrsmiis wrote:

zonknz wrote:

How do you define strongest? Best team? Financial sustainability? System of promotion/relegation? Performance in the federation champions league?

Put all the leagues on pieces of paper and draw them out of a hat, apparently

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Yakcall wrote:

Here are all the transfers that happened during the January window.

Auckland City

In: Cole Peverley (Team Wellington), Harshae Raniga (Onehunga Sports), Sam Burfoot (Marconi Stallions, Australia), Conor Tracey (Three Kings United)

Out: Daewook Kim (FC Anyang, South Korea), Ryan de Vries (FC Gifu, Japan), Danyon Drake

Waitakere United

In: Charlie Thomas (Bay Olympic), Rory Turner (Waitakere City), Nicolas Zambrano, Rossi Nkoy (both Eastern Suburbs), Christian Gray (Birkenhead United), Matthew Chant (Fencibles United), Kris Carpenter

Out: Horace James, Godwin Darkwa, Nino Lacagnina, Fabian Istefo, Jack Salter

Eastern Suburbs

In: James Dunn (Auckland City), Michael Built (Hamilton Wanderers)

Out: Rossi Nkoy, Nicolas Zambrano (both Waitakere United), Luke Clissold (Southern United), Finn Cochran, Harrison Nash, Chris James, Reese Cox

Hamilton Wanderers

In: Liam Fellowes, Flynn O’Brien, Steffano Riley (all promoted from youth squad), Liam Hayes (Hawke’s Bay United), Federico Cruz (Wellington Olympic), Kazuhiro Obata (Southland United), David Samson

Out: Sam De St Croix (Hawke’s Bay United), Michael Built (Eastern Suburbs), Paul Clout (injured), Marc Evans, Ignacio Falfan, Adam Luque, Ignacio Maturana-Muchacu (all overseas), Bailey Webster, Wade Maloney, Cui Kairui

Hawke’s Bay United

In: Danny Wilson (Napier City Rovers), Jordan Lamb (Waitakere City), Tinashe Marowa (Tasman United), Sam De St Croix (Hamilton Wanderers)

Out: Sam Mason-Smith (Stellenbosch FC, South Africa), Liam Hayes (Hamilton Wanderers), Hayden McHenry, Fergus Neil

Team Wellington

In: Marcel Kampman (Lower Hutt City), Stephen Dimakis (Mirimar Rangers), Liam Wood, Hamish Watson (both Wellington Phoenix), Kyung-Dong Kim (Cheongju University, South Korea), Ross Allen (Guernsey FC), Daniel Mulholland (CD Alumunecar City, Spain)

Out: Cole Peverley (Auckland City), Joel Stevens (on trial), Junjie Zhang (on trial), Erik Panzer, Alex Carr

Wellington Phoenix

In: Oscar Spragg , Oscar Browne (both Auckland City)

Out: Hamish Watson, Liam Wood (both Team Wellington), Luke Tongue (Canterbury United)

Tasman United

In: Ben Wright (Nelson Suburbs), Jordan Yong (Wisbech Town, England), Samuela Kautoga (Drury FC)

Out: Tinashe Marowa (Hawke’s Bay United), Robbie Pearson, Kieran Smith (both Bala Town, Wales), Cory Chettleburgh (Lautoka FC, Fiji), Alex Ridsdale (Southern United)

Canterbury United

In: Luke Tongue (Wellington Phoenix)

Out: Danny Knight (overseas), Sean Morris, Aaron Clapham

Southern United

In: Luke Clissold (Eastern Suburbs), Fahad Rwakarambwe (Napier City Rovers), Nick Treadwell (Whitstable Town, England), Tim McLennan (Dunedin Technical), Sam Carmichael (South Adelaide Panthers, Australia), Alex Ridsdale (Tasman United)

Out: Michael Hogan, Morgan Day

Link including team lists http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/newsarticle/58007

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Is this a normal transfer market mid-season and I've just missed it previously? I can't seem to recall this many ins and outs before. 

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VimFuego wrote:

Is this a normal transfer market mid-season and I've just missed it previously? I can't seem to recall this many ins and outs before. 

This one has been fairly hectic, especially with regard to transfers between clubs.

Not sure NZF has ever really made a regular effort to highlight them, and when they have, they've often missed a few.

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There have been a couple of higher profile ones this time and also the clubs are alot more proactive at promoting new signings than they used to be

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I don't understand why there is a 4 week standdown for transfer between clubs. In a league that's only 18 weeks long, it's seems pretty stupid.

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2ndBest wrote:

I don't understand why there is a 4 week standdown for transfer between clubs. In a league that's only 18 weeks long, it's seems pretty stupid.

It's not for agreed transfers, it's for when clubs approach players without going through the proper avenue (the players club) first.
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patrick478 wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

I don't understand why there is a 4 week standdown for transfer between clubs. In a league that's only 18 weeks long, it's seems pretty stupid.

It's not for agreed transfers, it's for when clubs approach players without going through the proper avenue (the players club) first.

Hard to see how peverley comes under that when he was moving to Tauranga anyway

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2ndBest wrote:

I don't understand why there is a 4 week standdown for transfer between clubs. In a league that's only 18 weeks long, it's seems pretty stupid.

  plus O-League if you make it
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Feverish wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

I don't understand why there is a 4 week standdown for transfer between clubs. In a league that's only 18 weeks long, it's seems pretty stupid.

It's not for agreed transfers, it's for when clubs approach players without going through the proper avenue (the players club) first.

Hard to see how peverley comes under that when he was moving to Tauranga anyway

Wait maybe this isn't right. Serves me right for drunken posting.
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patrick478 wrote:

Feverish wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

I don't understand why there is a 4 week standdown for transfer between clubs. In a league that's only 18 weeks long, it's seems pretty stupid.

It's not for agreed transfers, it's for when clubs approach players without going through the proper avenue (the players club) first.

Hard to see how peverley comes under that when he was moving to Tauranga anyway

Wait maybe this isn't right. Serves me right for drunken posting.

Don't worry I do if often. 
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Wouldn't it be a good move to expand the teams that play the playoffs from 4 to 6 and have a system exactly like the A-League? I know this season the top four have been way better than the rest but it would give the bottom teams something to play besides trying to avoid the spoon. There are two rounds left and 5 teams (Tasman, Southern, Waitakere, Hawke's Bay and WeeNix) have nothing to play for. It wouldn't add that many game anyways, just two.

I guess the reason why this is not implemented is because WeeNix can't qualify for the playoffs so that would leave 6 places for 9 teams, which is quite a lot. I don't know, was just wondering if it would be a good idea or not

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definitely worth considering

FTR, i'm old school and would prefer a 12 team league that plays 2 rounds to decide the winner, but hey if you're going to have a playoff party why not invite more

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Argie- wrote:

Wouldn't it be a good move to expand the teams that play the playoffs from 4 to 6 and have a system exactly like the A-League? I know this season the top four have been way better than the rest but it would give the bottom teams something to play besides trying to avoid the spoon. There are two rounds left and 5 teams (Tasman, Southern, Waitakere, Hawke's Bay and WeeNix) have nothing to play for. It wouldn't add that many game anyways, just two.

I guess the reason why this is not implemented is because WeeNix can't qualify for the playoffs so that would leave 6 places for 9 teams, which is quite a lot. I don't know, was just wondering if it would be a good idea or not

No way. There's a clear top four this season though, with five points separating them. Then there's a big nine point jump back to fifth. Can't see why they deserve to be in the running for the playoffs, just to give them something to play off.

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I'm very old fashioned too and have never been a huge fan of the minor/gran final type thing.  I must admit though that for less established leagues (incl HAL) this is a good way to generate extra interest and provide more teams the chance of silverware which renders the competition more exciting as a whole.

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Argie- wrote:

Wouldn't it be a good move to expand the teams that play the playoffs from 4 to 6 and have a system exactly like the A-League? I know this season the top four have been way better than the rest but it would give the bottom teams something to play besides trying to avoid the spoon. There are two rounds left and 5 teams (Tasman, Southern, Waitakere, Hawke's Bay and WeeNix) have nothing to play for. It wouldn't add that many game anyways, just two.

I guess the reason why this is not implemented is because WeeNix can't qualify for the playoffs so that would leave 6 places for 9 teams, which is quite a lot. I don't know, was just wondering if it would be a good idea or not

No, there's a clear gap between the top 4 and the bottom 6. None of those teams in the bottom 6 deserve to be in the finals.

The A-League should change to the Handy Prem system, not the other way around.

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reg22 wrote:

definitely worth considering

FTR, i'm old school and would prefer a 12 team league that plays 2 rounds to decide the winner, but hey if you're going to have a playoff party why not invite more

Agree. The ideal national league would be just as you said, but in the current system I thought maybe this could bring more excitment

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As with the recent (and ongoing) events A-league Wanderers active supporters ripping up flares and smokeys, what does anyone think about this in NZ football circles. I'm all for active support but also for safety and I've seen photos of Waiheke ultras doing stuff like that though not sure if its safe or not. If NZF wants to instill tribalism in the National League is it acceptable to do this kind of stuff and is there any awareness of safety for supporters if this happens?

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Where do you even buy such a flare? #askingforafriend
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VimFuego wrote:
Where do you even buy such a flare? #askingforafriend

Burnsco #AfriendToldMe

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VimFuego wrote:
Where do you even buy such a flare? #askingforafriend

Any trouser shop worth its salt #trendysixties

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