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I've seen lampposts move faster than Tom Schwarz

Better first touch too

As cultured as Che Bunce's left foot and as profilic as John Lammers

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really

i've followed him fir 10 years and can count on my one hand the amount of players that have shown him a clean pair of heels

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Agree he is not quick but he has a good touch is a good reader of the game and a great organiser. 

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Are the Dragons allowed to replace Stephen Last with him leaving to go to Ireland? Or have to make do with players they have?

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Dinamo Chris wrote:

Are the Dragons allowed to replace Stephen Last with him leaving to go to Ireland? Or have to make do with players they have?

Well, he didn't Last long.

I let my guitar speak for me

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Dinamo Chris wrote:

Are the Dragons allowed to replace Stephen Last with him leaving to go to Ireland? Or have to make do with players they have?

yes they can replace him

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I watched the TV game last week and Canterbury played like utter dogshark. Even a half decent striker would have slotted 3, with the stuff all possession that they did not kick away. Time and time again, I saw Schwarz launch a 60y aerial ball to the oppostie centre back. For what?
Lee Padmore (and I am out of the region) strikes me as a poor coach

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Jeff Vader wrote:

I watched the TV game last week and Canterbury played like utter dogshark. Even a half decent striker would have slotted 3, with the stuff all possession that they did not kick away. Time and time again, I saw Schwarz launch a 60y aerial ball to the oppostie centre back. For what?
Lee Padmore (and I am out of the region) strikes me as a poor coach

I am in the region and i have similar thoughts. He has a good reputation with coaching kids but is being found out at the senior level very quickly. Coughlan has been raved about locally but those wasted chances were very poor

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Master Brown wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

I watched the TV game last week and Canterbury played like utter dogshark. Even a half decent striker would have slotted 3, with the stuff all possession that they did not kick away. Time and time again, I saw Schwarz launch a 60y aerial ball to the oppostie centre back. For what?
Lee Padmore (and I am out of the region) strikes me as a poor coach

I am in the region and i have similar thoughts. He has a good reputation with coaching kids but is being found out at the senior level very quickly. Coughlan has been raved about locally but those wasted chances were very poor

'You get promoted till you reach your level of incompetence'.  I think he has found his level.  He should resign or be sacked really.

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At what point does it get changed?

Surely can’t finish bottom again.

Maybe allwhites82 can share the win loss stats as must be up their as worse of all time.

Saying that a win this weekend followed by a few in a row and it can all change!!!

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onthemoney wrote:

Master Brown wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

I watched the TV game last week and Canterbury played like utter dogshark. Even a half decent striker would have slotted 3, with the stuff all possession that they did not kick away. Time and time again, I saw Schwarz launch a 60y aerial ball to the oppostie centre back. For what?
Lee Padmore (and I am out of the region) strikes me as a poor coach

I am in the region and i have similar thoughts. He has a good reputation with coaching kids but is being found out at the senior level very quickly. Coughlan has been raved about locally but those wasted chances were very poor

'You get promoted till you reach your level of incompetence'.  I think he has found his level.  He should resign or be sacked really.

From this weeks programme notes - "we have had another great week in training and i fully believe the players that take the pitch to represent the region are more than capable of getting the result". The same thing has been said about training every single week since he arrived and there has been very few positive results to match these great weeks in training. There is zero chance of Lee being sacked as he would have to sack himself and his own ego would never let him resign. This was always the issue with letting him come and basically  run mainland 

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Allywally wrote:

At what point does it get changed?

Surely can’t finish bottom again.

Maybe allwhites82 can share the win loss stats as must be up their as worse of all time.

Saying that a win this weekend followed by a few in a row and it can all change!!!

bit of a way to go in over the two seasons 2008-09 they lost 25 games and finished bottom both years 

Bring back Wally?

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It's a bit harsh comparing Lee Padmore's reign with any of the past Dragon's coaches. He has to rely on local players whereas his predocessers have had a budget for imports. As a local fan I'd rather see them try to develop local talent than import mediocre players and finish mid table as they often did in previous seasons. I see Eastern Suburbs beat the Phoenix reserves 4 nil today but I don't expect that people will be calling for the WP coach to resign.

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Am sure Canterbury had enough imports last season and added the Japanese lad and 2 Irish lads this season while am sure the local players are not all playing for nothing.

The league as a whole financially has dropped with clubs developing youth players through more necessity.

My point was that the teams win and loss stats since Padmore took charge must be poor.

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Allywally wrote:

At what point does it get changed?

Surely can’t finish bottom again.

Maybe allwhites82 can share the win loss stats as must be up their as worse of all time.

Saying that a win this weekend followed by a few in a row and it can all change!!!

Here are stats for each of the Canterbury United coaches.

Coach Games Wins Draws Lost W % D% L% P/Offs
Danny Halligan 73 29 14 30 39.73% 19.18% 41.10% 1
Korouch Monsef 25 5 3 17 20.00% 12.00% 68.00% 0
Keith Braithwaite 70 35 12 23 50.00% 17.14% 32.86% 4
Sean Devine 16 4 2 10 25.00% 12.50% 62.50% 0
Willy Gerdsen 68 35 15 18 51.47% 22.06% 26.47% 2
Lee Padmore 18 2 4 12 11.11% 22.22% 66.67% 0
Total 270 110 50 110 40.7% 18.5% 40.7% 7
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Gaffa wrote:

It's a bit harsh comparing Lee Padmore's reign with any of the past Dragon's coaches. He has to rely on local players whereas his predocessers have had a budget for imports. As a local fan I'd rather see them try to develop local talent than import mediocre players and finish mid table as they often did in previous seasons. I see Eastern Suburbs beat the Phoenix reserves 4 nil today but I don't expect that people will be calling for the WP coach to resign.


I don’t believe it’s being harsh at all. I highly doubt last seasons star recruits came here for nothing and once they were found to be awful, two thirds through the season, did they finally move on. I’m sorry but he’s out of his depth coaching at this level and even proved to be poor at mpl standard. I see he said on sky sports they worked on finishing this week, maybe get the best attacking local players involved in the correct positions

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AW82 correct me if I’m wrong but is that one draw in the past 11 games that draw being vs the WP reserves. What league is that record acceptable? Yet each week padmore tells us the team train excellent and he has faith in them. How do mainland football bosses other than himself have faith this is working. 

They can only use being young and local so many times as an excuse

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Well wish I had stayed at home.
Padmore needs to be a little more honest.

Need a coach to motivate the players and which I don’t see coming from the side lines.

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Master Brown wrote:

AW82 correct me if I’m wrong but is that one draw in the past 11 games that draw being vs the WP reserves. What league is that record acceptable? Yet each week padmore tells us the team train excellent and he has faith in them. How do mainland football bosses other than himself have faith this is working. 

They can only use being young and local so many times as an excuse

Yes last draw was 1 - 1 against Wellington Phoenix

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I  question the selection process of players far too many under par, there are better quality players overlooked, For the amount of money thrown at them they need to be performing at a National League standard, it’s an embarrassment, what can we do... Is this selection process just a call up and asking whos available from previous year or is there a robus scouting process including coach to find the best players within the south island. 

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